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The official team name was announced tonight as Gold Coast Football Club but that page is a redirect with two items of history. GC17 was just a working title for the bid process. The-Pope ( talk) 12:45, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
I support renaming. Paul Foxworthy ( talk) 03:19, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
Me too.-- Shirt58 ( talk) 11:07, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
I also support renaming. Dr Faustus AU ( talk) 21:55, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
Weak support. Although generally changes to official names don't immediately catch on to the point of satisfying Wikipedia:naming conventions, I agree this one will. It would still be good to have some evidence that it actually has been adopted by the general public, but I guess if there's no opposition to the move, evidence won't really be required. Andrewa ( talk) 04:10, 6 September 2008 (UTC)
I'd rewrite the opening bit. Two options. Name it GC17 and say that "GC17 is the bid for the 17th AFL club in the Gold Coast..... The club will be named Gold Coast Football Club blabla bla" or name it Gold Coast Football Club and the intro "GCFC is a proposed 17th entry to the AFL blablabla. The bidding body is known as GC17". Obviously with better english and wiki-styling than that but we need to make it clear the difference between GC17 and GCFC. GC17 is the body (or project) bidding for a 17th team in Gold Coast. GCFC is the proposed identity put forward to the AFL by GC17.
With the naming of the club GC17 still exists. It's inevitable but GCFC isn't officially the 17th club yet. GC17 still exists and has some work to do. Jabso ( talk) 06:31, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
Also, the opening para talks past tense about a future date "required a commitment [..] by mid-October 2008." Does this mean they've already secured the criteria, or it's still to be done? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.168.196.222 ( talk) 09:30, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
The team colours presented in the Wikipedia article are wrong. Why? - Because I have recently read an article on the GC17 website explaining that the official club colours are in fact red, gold & blue. -
http://gc17.com.au/index.php?id=12&tx_ttnews[tt_news]=64&tx_ttnews[backPid]=11&cHash=0954871b07
(Please copy & paste the whole link shown above into the address bar. For some reason whenever I post the link it breaks in two. I tried TinyUrl, but Wikipedia does not allow it. Sorry!)
I request that someone correct this, as I believe GC17 is a reliable enough source. If not, I will gladly do it myself unless someone brings up a reason as to why I should not. Jas315 ( talk) 18:32, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
I'm also wondering, for how long has "The Age" been reliable in the first place? - IMO, sometimes the correct source does matter when the official club colours are taken into consideration, because it is a big part of what represents the club itself, right? - anyway, I'll leave it in the air for now. Jas315 ( talk) 16:44, 20 September 2008 (UTC)
Curiously, this thread is two years old, yet we need to return to it. According to the Gold Coast Suns, their official colours are Red, Gold and Blue. However, as Guinea pig warrior has been pointing out, the clash guernsey features white. My reading of this was that while white is in the guernsey, this doesn't make it an official club colour. However, I assume that GPW sees this differently. Any thoughts? - Bilby ( talk) 09:27, 12 September 2010 (UTC)
White is also featured in the logo itself in the middle. That would make me think that white is apart of there "secondary" colours. For example, Port Adelaide have only used silver in their past clash guernseys but it's featured in the logo with there "main colours" being, Teal, white and black. And with white being the main colour of there clash guernsey would make me think that white is there colour but only "Secondary" so I would just put it at the end of the colour list to show the ranks of the colours. Also, Afterwriting, you were warned by an admin to stay away from and since you were never involved with this before the warning, I would consider you are stalking me. Please leave me alone. GuineaPigWarrior ( talk) 14:15, 13 September, 2010 (UTC)
Thank you HiLo48 for being very understanding and not rude. The club has used the colour in their logo and clash guernsey, it may not be an main colour but just an secondary. GuineaPigWarrior ( talk) 02:15, 29 September, 2010 (UTC)
The article says that the licence was awarded to this particular bidding consortium. That implies there were other bidding consortiums which missed out on the license. If there were others, can there be some mention of the unsuccessful ones somewhere? It there were no others, can this be stated in the article? 130.194.78.161 ( talk) 01:48, 2 April 2009 (UTC)
That's because were no competitive bids ! The AFL instigated the preferred consortium from scratch and has a stake in the club. Noone else was interested because it is such a risky market ! -- Rulesfan ( talk) 02:15, 3 April 2009 (UTC)
At 9:15pm on 22nd of July 2010 it was announced at a press conference and a live stream over the internet that the Gold Coast Football Club would be renamed the Gold Coast Suns.
A logo and three Guernseys were also reviled, this article needs to have the named changed to Gold Coast Suns. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bombrars ( talk • contribs) 11:48, 22 July 2010 (UTC)
I believe that the Teams name is still Gold Coast Football Club, Suns is just the official nickname 121.214.92.203 ( talk) 12:23, 22 July 2010 (UTC)
Where I live Aussie Rulles players have always worn footy jumpers. I've notice a recent trend towards guernseys. This article uses guernseys. Is this a rugby league state thing? Interestingly, we have an infobox entry called jumper, with the word guernsey in the name of the png file used. Some more consistency would make a lot of sense. HiLo48 ( talk) 04:43, 27 September 2010 (UTC)
A number of editors are determined to put in the table for 2011 that Karmichael Hunt was recruited from Brisbane Broncos. It makes no sense to say in the table that he was recruited from a club that isn't an Australian football club. That column represents clubs which would have had to release him to another club affiliated with the same national organisation. We wouldn't put in the table the golf club he has stopped playing for, or the book club. His more complicated status is explained in detail elsewhere in the article. HiLo48 ( talk) 03:48, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
For newcomers to this discussion, it should be noted that Hunt's special status is described in more detail above the table under the Recruitment heading. HiLo48 ( talk) 07:15, 7 October 2010 (UTC)
That section tells us that the song is Suns of the Gold Coast Sky. Is it? Or is it really Sons of the Gold Coast Sky? The second would make more sense. We don't have multiple suns. The source points us to the words, but not a title, so that doesn't help. HiLo48 ( talk) 09:27, 31 March 2011 (UTC)
Just a note.. it seems a number of the players have had pointless redirects created for them, so they're bluelinks but don't actually have an article yet. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.253.178.83 ( talk) 04:41, 11 May 2011 (UTC)
As at this moment in time on 28 October 2014, the club does not have a coach. Repeated edits claim it does. I don't want to go near 3RR. Hopefully future enthusiastic editors will look here first. HiLo48 ( talk) 10:41, 28 October 2014 (UTC)
Some of the stuff here is incredibly out-of-date. Using past-tense from 2011 event isn't good. Aneditor (talk tome) 08:57, 16 October 2015 (UTC)
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The result of the move request was: move the page to the proposed title at this time, per the discussion below. Dekimasu よ! 18:16, 10 January 2019 (UTC)
Gold Coast Football Club → Gold Coast Suns – It is the name they are commonly known by and what they market themselves as to the world; which would appear to fit with current practice at the articles Greater Western Sydney Giants, West Coast Eagles, Sydney Swans and Western Bulldogs. Would love some input. Global-Cityzen ( talk) 13:18, 28 December 2018 (UTC) --Relisting. Andrewa ( talk) 14:15, 4 January 2019 (UTC)
WP:NAMINGCRITERIA recommends us to utilise recognisable names, and I'd submit the evidence above suggests Gold Coast Suns is more recognisable than Gold Coast Football Club, and fulfils the other four criteria mentioned. Whilst the majority of AFL clubs (usually the ones based in Victoria with close around a hundred years history) are commonly known by their official names, I don't believe Gold Coast is. In summary we should change the title and instead provide the club's official name incorporating the "Football Club" title in the full name section of the infobox, as currently occurs at the Greater Western Sydney Giants article. Global-Cityzen ( talk) 04:56, 7 January 2019 (UTC)
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The official team name was announced tonight as Gold Coast Football Club but that page is a redirect with two items of history. GC17 was just a working title for the bid process. The-Pope ( talk) 12:45, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
I support renaming. Paul Foxworthy ( talk) 03:19, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
Me too.-- Shirt58 ( talk) 11:07, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
I also support renaming. Dr Faustus AU ( talk) 21:55, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
Weak support. Although generally changes to official names don't immediately catch on to the point of satisfying Wikipedia:naming conventions, I agree this one will. It would still be good to have some evidence that it actually has been adopted by the general public, but I guess if there's no opposition to the move, evidence won't really be required. Andrewa ( talk) 04:10, 6 September 2008 (UTC)
I'd rewrite the opening bit. Two options. Name it GC17 and say that "GC17 is the bid for the 17th AFL club in the Gold Coast..... The club will be named Gold Coast Football Club blabla bla" or name it Gold Coast Football Club and the intro "GCFC is a proposed 17th entry to the AFL blablabla. The bidding body is known as GC17". Obviously with better english and wiki-styling than that but we need to make it clear the difference between GC17 and GCFC. GC17 is the body (or project) bidding for a 17th team in Gold Coast. GCFC is the proposed identity put forward to the AFL by GC17.
With the naming of the club GC17 still exists. It's inevitable but GCFC isn't officially the 17th club yet. GC17 still exists and has some work to do. Jabso ( talk) 06:31, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
Also, the opening para talks past tense about a future date "required a commitment [..] by mid-October 2008." Does this mean they've already secured the criteria, or it's still to be done? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.168.196.222 ( talk) 09:30, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
The team colours presented in the Wikipedia article are wrong. Why? - Because I have recently read an article on the GC17 website explaining that the official club colours are in fact red, gold & blue. -
http://gc17.com.au/index.php?id=12&tx_ttnews[tt_news]=64&tx_ttnews[backPid]=11&cHash=0954871b07
(Please copy & paste the whole link shown above into the address bar. For some reason whenever I post the link it breaks in two. I tried TinyUrl, but Wikipedia does not allow it. Sorry!)
I request that someone correct this, as I believe GC17 is a reliable enough source. If not, I will gladly do it myself unless someone brings up a reason as to why I should not. Jas315 ( talk) 18:32, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
I'm also wondering, for how long has "The Age" been reliable in the first place? - IMO, sometimes the correct source does matter when the official club colours are taken into consideration, because it is a big part of what represents the club itself, right? - anyway, I'll leave it in the air for now. Jas315 ( talk) 16:44, 20 September 2008 (UTC)
Curiously, this thread is two years old, yet we need to return to it. According to the Gold Coast Suns, their official colours are Red, Gold and Blue. However, as Guinea pig warrior has been pointing out, the clash guernsey features white. My reading of this was that while white is in the guernsey, this doesn't make it an official club colour. However, I assume that GPW sees this differently. Any thoughts? - Bilby ( talk) 09:27, 12 September 2010 (UTC)
White is also featured in the logo itself in the middle. That would make me think that white is apart of there "secondary" colours. For example, Port Adelaide have only used silver in their past clash guernseys but it's featured in the logo with there "main colours" being, Teal, white and black. And with white being the main colour of there clash guernsey would make me think that white is there colour but only "Secondary" so I would just put it at the end of the colour list to show the ranks of the colours. Also, Afterwriting, you were warned by an admin to stay away from and since you were never involved with this before the warning, I would consider you are stalking me. Please leave me alone. GuineaPigWarrior ( talk) 14:15, 13 September, 2010 (UTC)
Thank you HiLo48 for being very understanding and not rude. The club has used the colour in their logo and clash guernsey, it may not be an main colour but just an secondary. GuineaPigWarrior ( talk) 02:15, 29 September, 2010 (UTC)
The article says that the licence was awarded to this particular bidding consortium. That implies there were other bidding consortiums which missed out on the license. If there were others, can there be some mention of the unsuccessful ones somewhere? It there were no others, can this be stated in the article? 130.194.78.161 ( talk) 01:48, 2 April 2009 (UTC)
That's because were no competitive bids ! The AFL instigated the preferred consortium from scratch and has a stake in the club. Noone else was interested because it is such a risky market ! -- Rulesfan ( talk) 02:15, 3 April 2009 (UTC)
At 9:15pm on 22nd of July 2010 it was announced at a press conference and a live stream over the internet that the Gold Coast Football Club would be renamed the Gold Coast Suns.
A logo and three Guernseys were also reviled, this article needs to have the named changed to Gold Coast Suns. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bombrars ( talk • contribs) 11:48, 22 July 2010 (UTC)
I believe that the Teams name is still Gold Coast Football Club, Suns is just the official nickname 121.214.92.203 ( talk) 12:23, 22 July 2010 (UTC)
Where I live Aussie Rulles players have always worn footy jumpers. I've notice a recent trend towards guernseys. This article uses guernseys. Is this a rugby league state thing? Interestingly, we have an infobox entry called jumper, with the word guernsey in the name of the png file used. Some more consistency would make a lot of sense. HiLo48 ( talk) 04:43, 27 September 2010 (UTC)
A number of editors are determined to put in the table for 2011 that Karmichael Hunt was recruited from Brisbane Broncos. It makes no sense to say in the table that he was recruited from a club that isn't an Australian football club. That column represents clubs which would have had to release him to another club affiliated with the same national organisation. We wouldn't put in the table the golf club he has stopped playing for, or the book club. His more complicated status is explained in detail elsewhere in the article. HiLo48 ( talk) 03:48, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
For newcomers to this discussion, it should be noted that Hunt's special status is described in more detail above the table under the Recruitment heading. HiLo48 ( talk) 07:15, 7 October 2010 (UTC)
That section tells us that the song is Suns of the Gold Coast Sky. Is it? Or is it really Sons of the Gold Coast Sky? The second would make more sense. We don't have multiple suns. The source points us to the words, but not a title, so that doesn't help. HiLo48 ( talk) 09:27, 31 March 2011 (UTC)
Just a note.. it seems a number of the players have had pointless redirects created for them, so they're bluelinks but don't actually have an article yet. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.253.178.83 ( talk) 04:41, 11 May 2011 (UTC)
As at this moment in time on 28 October 2014, the club does not have a coach. Repeated edits claim it does. I don't want to go near 3RR. Hopefully future enthusiastic editors will look here first. HiLo48 ( talk) 10:41, 28 October 2014 (UTC)
Some of the stuff here is incredibly out-of-date. Using past-tense from 2011 event isn't good. Aneditor (talk tome) 08:57, 16 October 2015 (UTC)
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The result of the move request was: move the page to the proposed title at this time, per the discussion below. Dekimasu よ! 18:16, 10 January 2019 (UTC)
Gold Coast Football Club → Gold Coast Suns – It is the name they are commonly known by and what they market themselves as to the world; which would appear to fit with current practice at the articles Greater Western Sydney Giants, West Coast Eagles, Sydney Swans and Western Bulldogs. Would love some input. Global-Cityzen ( talk) 13:18, 28 December 2018 (UTC) --Relisting. Andrewa ( talk) 14:15, 4 January 2019 (UTC)
WP:NAMINGCRITERIA recommends us to utilise recognisable names, and I'd submit the evidence above suggests Gold Coast Suns is more recognisable than Gold Coast Football Club, and fulfils the other four criteria mentioned. Whilst the majority of AFL clubs (usually the ones based in Victoria with close around a hundred years history) are commonly known by their official names, I don't believe Gold Coast is. In summary we should change the title and instead provide the club's official name incorporating the "Football Club" title in the full name section of the infobox, as currently occurs at the Greater Western Sydney Giants article. Global-Cityzen ( talk) 04:56, 7 January 2019 (UTC)