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For what its worth, the Hebrew & Arabic listed in this article are giving the name of Mount Bnei Rasan (which has its own article), not the name of the Wind Farm; so I don't see why either translation belongs in this article. --
nsaum75¡שיחת!10:07, 12 March 2010 (UTC)reply
Created a sub category specially for "Israeli companies operating in the occupied territories" so we can put all those together for easy navigation. This is a neutral category following the worldview, not pov. --
Supreme Deliciousness (
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19:55, 14 April 2010 (UTC)reply
The 'supercat' is up for cfd. Creating a new equally problematic cat while the supercat is up for cfd might be considered sneaky. --
Shuki (
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23:27, 14 April 2010 (UTC)reply
The cat in question is not up for cfd, its a separate cat that works on its own or as a sub cat, you have removed it without explaining why it should be removed. --
Supreme Deliciousness (
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23:31, 14 April 2010 (UTC)reply
Users should not be allowed to force the same argument to take place in multiple articles. It is a super-minority view that this wind farm is in Israel, the entire world recognizes this territory as Syrian territory and it is a NPOV violation to intimate that this place is in Israel. nableezy -
04:33, 29 September 2010 (UTC)reply
But they are doing this in a place not in Israel. Why would we say it is in Israel when it is not? If you want to say it is owned and operated by Israelis nobody is stopping you. However, you are trying to say something that is factually incorrect. That is the problem. nableezy -
21:48, 29 September 2010 (UTC)reply
It should be "Israeli wind farms" whether it's in Israel or not is a matter of dispute, so we can avoid that by saying "Israeli wind farms" just as a company run by Israelis that has it's headquarters in another country is still an Israeli company. This is a windfarm by Israelis, for Israelis, and operated and maintained by Israelis. Therefore it is an Israeli wind farm.
Drsmoo (
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01:17, 30 September 2010 (UTC)reply
Sorry about that, I just came in to
add an infobox and do some cleanup, I didn't know of the disputed locale or such. I haved
fixed a similar edit I made at Commons too. Just wondering, people generally look for the key locale (country) in such infoboxes. And according to the CIA (according to
Golan Heights article) the area is in Syria. Is it a bad idea to put Syria as the key locale?
Rehman11:43, 21 November 2010 (UTC)reply
No such thing was established, you brought a collection of news reports that mistakenly use the word "border". Many other news reports say it is in Syria, and higher quality sources likewise say it is in Syria. That reminds me, Ill get back to that talk page in a bit. nableezy -
12:20, 10 July 2011 (UTC)reply
Can you link to a specific section on a talk page Bio? When you say: "it's not in Syria", it doesn't even matter. Even if some (even the majority since the minority is not fringe) consider it Syria, what matters is that it is claimed by two countries (one of which actually does control it). An easy fix that I agree with is removing the map completely. However, if editors created a completely NPOV map then it might be a good addition. Overall, a map isn't even needed. This is especially true when it introduces ambiguity and neutrality concerns.
Cptnono (
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02:32, 12 July 2011 (UTC)reply
BTW, I have been attempting to fix the map thing project wide fr months in multiple discussions and it has gone nowhere. And I have multiple articles on my watchlist so any tags are based on edits and not editors.
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02:33, 12 July 2011 (UTC)reply
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For what its worth, the Hebrew & Arabic listed in this article are giving the name of Mount Bnei Rasan (which has its own article), not the name of the Wind Farm; so I don't see why either translation belongs in this article. --
nsaum75¡שיחת!10:07, 12 March 2010 (UTC)reply
Created a sub category specially for "Israeli companies operating in the occupied territories" so we can put all those together for easy navigation. This is a neutral category following the worldview, not pov. --
Supreme Deliciousness (
talk)
19:55, 14 April 2010 (UTC)reply
The 'supercat' is up for cfd. Creating a new equally problematic cat while the supercat is up for cfd might be considered sneaky. --
Shuki (
talk)
23:27, 14 April 2010 (UTC)reply
The cat in question is not up for cfd, its a separate cat that works on its own or as a sub cat, you have removed it without explaining why it should be removed. --
Supreme Deliciousness (
talk)
23:31, 14 April 2010 (UTC)reply
Users should not be allowed to force the same argument to take place in multiple articles. It is a super-minority view that this wind farm is in Israel, the entire world recognizes this territory as Syrian territory and it is a NPOV violation to intimate that this place is in Israel. nableezy -
04:33, 29 September 2010 (UTC)reply
But they are doing this in a place not in Israel. Why would we say it is in Israel when it is not? If you want to say it is owned and operated by Israelis nobody is stopping you. However, you are trying to say something that is factually incorrect. That is the problem. nableezy -
21:48, 29 September 2010 (UTC)reply
It should be "Israeli wind farms" whether it's in Israel or not is a matter of dispute, so we can avoid that by saying "Israeli wind farms" just as a company run by Israelis that has it's headquarters in another country is still an Israeli company. This is a windfarm by Israelis, for Israelis, and operated and maintained by Israelis. Therefore it is an Israeli wind farm.
Drsmoo (
talk)
01:17, 30 September 2010 (UTC)reply
Sorry about that, I just came in to
add an infobox and do some cleanup, I didn't know of the disputed locale or such. I haved
fixed a similar edit I made at Commons too. Just wondering, people generally look for the key locale (country) in such infoboxes. And according to the CIA (according to
Golan Heights article) the area is in Syria. Is it a bad idea to put Syria as the key locale?
Rehman11:43, 21 November 2010 (UTC)reply
No such thing was established, you brought a collection of news reports that mistakenly use the word "border". Many other news reports say it is in Syria, and higher quality sources likewise say it is in Syria. That reminds me, Ill get back to that talk page in a bit. nableezy -
12:20, 10 July 2011 (UTC)reply
Can you link to a specific section on a talk page Bio? When you say: "it's not in Syria", it doesn't even matter. Even if some (even the majority since the minority is not fringe) consider it Syria, what matters is that it is claimed by two countries (one of which actually does control it). An easy fix that I agree with is removing the map completely. However, if editors created a completely NPOV map then it might be a good addition. Overall, a map isn't even needed. This is especially true when it introduces ambiguity and neutrality concerns.
Cptnono (
talk)
02:32, 12 July 2011 (UTC)reply
BTW, I have been attempting to fix the map thing project wide fr months in multiple discussions and it has gone nowhere. And I have multiple articles on my watchlist so any tags are based on edits and not editors.
Cptnono (
talk)
02:33, 12 July 2011 (UTC)reply