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Here is an edit by somebody who seems to assume sanity in book publishing.
I question this assumption. Thousands of right-thinking folk are apt to give their credit card details for ghostwritten vaporware, if not constituting a purchase then at least indicating their intention to buy. Indeed, if you "preorder" a book from Amazon (just to name one retailer) I don't think that later, after reading a bad review or remeasuring your shelf space, you can "deorder" before they extract your money.
Moreover, to judge from the percentage of cheesy-looking books that are labeled "bestseller" or "bestselling", the terms can hardly mean more than "sold fairly well". There's even the occasional worthwhile "bestseller". -- Hoary ( talk) 08:16, 7 November 2009 (UTC)
"Nation Editors Mock Palin With Book Of Their Own"
In a word, ugh.
I don't know of any style guide that either (a) recommends this kind of capitalization or (b) urges slavish adoption of the particular capitalization, however wacky, used by the publisher of what's being cited.
Putting aside the question of whether "Nation" should be italicized or otherwise set off from the rest, there are three possibilities:
So what's it going to be? -- Hoary ( talk) 02:47, 15 November 2009 (UTC)
Here's what Dunn writes:
No hyperlinks in that. Somewhere in the MoS is I believe an instruction not to add hyperlinks to quoted text. -- Hoary ( talk) 02:53, 15 November 2009 (UTC)
The paperback is ISBN 978-0-9842950-0-5 and the ebook is ISBN 978-0-9842950-1-2 but I'm not entirely sure how best to add the pair to the article. I've added the former to the infobox at the top right. -- Hoary ( talk) 05:05, 30 November 2009 (UTC)
We read:
I'd never heard of Star Jones, Entertainment Tonight, or The Insider. WP (not a reliable source, of course) describes Jones as an American lawyer (which sounds mildly interesting) and television personality (which is I suppose of great interest to many), but calls "Entertainment Tonight" "a daily tabloid-like television entertainment news show", which makes it sound trivial. Is "The Insider" The Insider (newspaper)? Anyway, I don't see how this is worth quoting, unless it's developed. For example, "Arguing that the book blah blah blah, Star Jones labeled it 'sabotage to the Nth degree', also pointing out that blah blah blah." As it is, all we see as that some teevee personality mentioned (as written up in a source that remains obscure) that she doesn't like it -- which seems very trivial to me.
Incidentally, I'd also suppose that N (in "Nth degree") is a rather low number, as no matter how bad your spelling/dyslexia might be, you cannot mistakenly buy this book from any online or real-world retailer. Unless of course Ms Jones has something else in mind. If so, let's hear it. -- Hoary ( talk) 02:47, 2 December 2009 (UTC)
I'm not quite sure how to punctuate the title of this book, but "Going Rouge: Sarah Palin An American Nightmare" is almost certainly not the right way to do it. My guess is "Going Rouge: Sarah Palin, an American Nightmare". Can anyone provide some authoritative references about how to deal with this situation? — Bkell ( talk) 02:58, 29 December 2009 (UTC)
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Here is an edit by somebody who seems to assume sanity in book publishing.
I question this assumption. Thousands of right-thinking folk are apt to give their credit card details for ghostwritten vaporware, if not constituting a purchase then at least indicating their intention to buy. Indeed, if you "preorder" a book from Amazon (just to name one retailer) I don't think that later, after reading a bad review or remeasuring your shelf space, you can "deorder" before they extract your money.
Moreover, to judge from the percentage of cheesy-looking books that are labeled "bestseller" or "bestselling", the terms can hardly mean more than "sold fairly well". There's even the occasional worthwhile "bestseller". -- Hoary ( talk) 08:16, 7 November 2009 (UTC)
"Nation Editors Mock Palin With Book Of Their Own"
In a word, ugh.
I don't know of any style guide that either (a) recommends this kind of capitalization or (b) urges slavish adoption of the particular capitalization, however wacky, used by the publisher of what's being cited.
Putting aside the question of whether "Nation" should be italicized or otherwise set off from the rest, there are three possibilities:
So what's it going to be? -- Hoary ( talk) 02:47, 15 November 2009 (UTC)
Here's what Dunn writes:
No hyperlinks in that. Somewhere in the MoS is I believe an instruction not to add hyperlinks to quoted text. -- Hoary ( talk) 02:53, 15 November 2009 (UTC)
The paperback is ISBN 978-0-9842950-0-5 and the ebook is ISBN 978-0-9842950-1-2 but I'm not entirely sure how best to add the pair to the article. I've added the former to the infobox at the top right. -- Hoary ( talk) 05:05, 30 November 2009 (UTC)
We read:
I'd never heard of Star Jones, Entertainment Tonight, or The Insider. WP (not a reliable source, of course) describes Jones as an American lawyer (which sounds mildly interesting) and television personality (which is I suppose of great interest to many), but calls "Entertainment Tonight" "a daily tabloid-like television entertainment news show", which makes it sound trivial. Is "The Insider" The Insider (newspaper)? Anyway, I don't see how this is worth quoting, unless it's developed. For example, "Arguing that the book blah blah blah, Star Jones labeled it 'sabotage to the Nth degree', also pointing out that blah blah blah." As it is, all we see as that some teevee personality mentioned (as written up in a source that remains obscure) that she doesn't like it -- which seems very trivial to me.
Incidentally, I'd also suppose that N (in "Nth degree") is a rather low number, as no matter how bad your spelling/dyslexia might be, you cannot mistakenly buy this book from any online or real-world retailer. Unless of course Ms Jones has something else in mind. If so, let's hear it. -- Hoary ( talk) 02:47, 2 December 2009 (UTC)
I'm not quite sure how to punctuate the title of this book, but "Going Rouge: Sarah Palin An American Nightmare" is almost certainly not the right way to do it. My guess is "Going Rouge: Sarah Palin, an American Nightmare". Can anyone provide some authoritative references about how to deal with this situation? — Bkell ( talk) 02:58, 29 December 2009 (UTC)