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"Godflesh are an industrial metal band from Birmingham, England. Originally known as Fall of Because..." - Suggest removing ref to FoB, as origins a bit more complex than that, and better explained later on in page. PaulUKFS ( talk) 15:21, 9 May 2013 (UTC)
Alright, I started noticing that people have been editing Godflesh's page, espeicially with the genre box to the right, adding that they were once grindcore/deathgrind when in reality, they NEVER had anything to do with any of those genres even though Justin K Broadrick was once in grindcore pioneers Napalm Death and also has admited that early Godflesh has had death metal influences. It's nonsense if you ask me though, their music has nothing to do with fast blast beats or fast huge chunks of heavy palm muted riffs. Their whole purpose of existing was to make "apocolyptic" style gloomy industrial metal music. Any thoughts on this confusion with the band?
Yeah, but i just want to asking, why in hell www.anus.com has defined them as grind? Well, the many sites, wich are stated, that Godflesh were once or allways been grindcore, are certainly unreliable . But, problem and exception is, because anus site's work/activity is, define extreme metal. Etos
Allright, i saw a grindcore tag again in page. Im removing that genre, knowing that, consensus is that they were never grindcore, but can whoever who put a grindcore label, give some explains to adding grindcore tag to the genrebox. Or was that, just simply vandalism?
Where do they show this in there sound? I feel it should be removed unless there is a cited source. There are various artists around these days which are classified as metal (specifically doom) because of the the of the tone of their instruments. Godflesh was highly influenced by Justins "core" background. The lyrics, imagery, vocal style and tone of bass are all easily traced back to "core".
Also a quick digging into of 80's industrial (if you wish for me to name drop I certainly will) does nothing but strengthen their lack of supposed Black Sabbath influence. The dark and abrasive sounds of the artists of the era clearly show a lot more relevance to Godflesh's work.
brian.bl[at]hotmail.com
Hi - I'm Nic Bullen: I've known Justin Broadrick since 1983 (when we played together in the project Final). I have to say that Justin has been influenced by Black Sabbath: he grew up with them playing in the background (courtesy of his father and step-father), and both him and I were influenced by Black Sabbath when we decided to tune our guitars to a lower pitch in Napalm Death. Black Sabbath are definitely an influence on the sound of Godflesh (perhaps more in terms of approach and mood rather than actual physical 'riffing'). One thing to say about one specific point: the bass on Black Sabbath records is actually fairly high in the mix for an average 'rock' / 'pop' record. Justin would also never deny that he was MASSIVELY influenced by Killing Joke (as he was by Big Black, and - to a lesser extent - groups like Slab! and No Trend).
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The cover pic from Godflesh's self titled albumn is not William Hurt from "Altered States" it's from the movie "Begotten". You can even tell it's not William Hurt because it is a picture of A WOMAN (the "Mother Earth" character from "Begotten"). I thought the "Begotten" image was common knowledge and makes more sense than "Altered States" due to the exteremely graphic violent and surreal nature of "Begotten". —Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.144.142.198 ( talk) 00:18, 23 September 2007 (UTC)
Hi - I'm Nic Bullen: I've known Justin Broadrick since 1983. I'm afraid that you are incorrect in thinking that the cover of Godflesh's self-titled album (originally on Swordfish, then Earache) is from the film 'Begotten'. The picture is a still from the film 'Seconds' (1966 - d/John Frankenheimer) which features Rock Hudson as a bored executive who pays to be 'disappeared' and reappear with plastic surgery: the image itself is from the scenes where Hudson is forcibly restrained and sedated before the film's closing scenes, and the camera begins to be anamorphically distorted to demonstrate Hudson's fear. It was a favourite film of Gary 'Benny' Green (the bassplayer of Godflesh) - he recorded it from a showing on the English television channel BBC 2 in the mid-1980's. For another thing, 'Begotten' received a theatrical release in 1991 which is 3 years after the Godflesh self-titled record was originally released on Swordfish Records in 1988. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Hexing agent ( talk • contribs) 13:57, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
The label of the Godflesh-EP (eye&razor) is from "Un Chien Andalou". —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.221.80.52 ( talk) 15:42, 6 March 2010 (UTC)
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I propose that Fall of Because be merged into Godflesh. Most of the information on the Fall of Because page either appears in the Godflesh history section, or in the article Life Is Easy. Further details about Extirpate (about the only thing not mentioned in the Godflesh article) can be added easily. CelestialWeevil ( talk) 04:49, 11 February 2018 (UTC)
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Hi, everyone. I thought I would start to document instances of publications using this Wikipedia article as an uncited source. I'm doing this partly because it's fun(ny), and partly because I don't want this article to be flagged for copying them.
I'll add more as they're published. CelestialWeevil ( talk) 15:28, 22 August 2018 (UTC)
I think it should be changed from industrial metal to heavy metal because Godflesh has four sourced genres. Industrial metal is not vague enough to be in the lead in my opinion. ~SML • TP 14:55, 9 September 2018 (UTC)
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Really good article, but I was surprised to see Metallica listed as a band influenced by Godflesh - I love both, but don't hear it. Had a look at the cites, and the first just seems to say Kirk Hammett likes their stuff; he probably likes a lot of music, doesn't exactly mean it's all an influence on Metallica. I don't have a copy of the book that's used for the second cite - is it a bit more useful? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.25.18.193 ( talk) 19:06, 25 April 2021 (UTC)
Need your input on how to title Green's article. Should it be G. C. Green, B. C. Green, or Ben Green (musician, born 1964)? Please discuss at Talk:G. C. Green. AngusW🐶🐶F ( bark • sniff) 17:01, 7 March 2023 (UTC)
Across Wikipedia, there are artists that have more than just full-length studio albums under Discography. Nine Inch Nails (3 EPs), Guns N' Roses (1 EP), Led Zeppelin (1 compilation), Peter Frampton (2 live albums), etc. are a few examples. These exceptions are because the aforementioned releases are considered major releases in the artist's chronology. In Godflesh's case, their debut Godflesh and also their third major release Slavestate should be included.
Godflesh
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In contrast, the Cold World and Merciless and Messiah EPs should not be included. This is because...
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Messiah
Decline & Fall
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"Godflesh are an industrial metal band from Birmingham, England. Originally known as Fall of Because..." - Suggest removing ref to FoB, as origins a bit more complex than that, and better explained later on in page. PaulUKFS ( talk) 15:21, 9 May 2013 (UTC)
Alright, I started noticing that people have been editing Godflesh's page, espeicially with the genre box to the right, adding that they were once grindcore/deathgrind when in reality, they NEVER had anything to do with any of those genres even though Justin K Broadrick was once in grindcore pioneers Napalm Death and also has admited that early Godflesh has had death metal influences. It's nonsense if you ask me though, their music has nothing to do with fast blast beats or fast huge chunks of heavy palm muted riffs. Their whole purpose of existing was to make "apocolyptic" style gloomy industrial metal music. Any thoughts on this confusion with the band?
Yeah, but i just want to asking, why in hell www.anus.com has defined them as grind? Well, the many sites, wich are stated, that Godflesh were once or allways been grindcore, are certainly unreliable . But, problem and exception is, because anus site's work/activity is, define extreme metal. Etos
Allright, i saw a grindcore tag again in page. Im removing that genre, knowing that, consensus is that they were never grindcore, but can whoever who put a grindcore label, give some explains to adding grindcore tag to the genrebox. Or was that, just simply vandalism?
Where do they show this in there sound? I feel it should be removed unless there is a cited source. There are various artists around these days which are classified as metal (specifically doom) because of the the of the tone of their instruments. Godflesh was highly influenced by Justins "core" background. The lyrics, imagery, vocal style and tone of bass are all easily traced back to "core".
Also a quick digging into of 80's industrial (if you wish for me to name drop I certainly will) does nothing but strengthen their lack of supposed Black Sabbath influence. The dark and abrasive sounds of the artists of the era clearly show a lot more relevance to Godflesh's work.
brian.bl[at]hotmail.com
Hi - I'm Nic Bullen: I've known Justin Broadrick since 1983 (when we played together in the project Final). I have to say that Justin has been influenced by Black Sabbath: he grew up with them playing in the background (courtesy of his father and step-father), and both him and I were influenced by Black Sabbath when we decided to tune our guitars to a lower pitch in Napalm Death. Black Sabbath are definitely an influence on the sound of Godflesh (perhaps more in terms of approach and mood rather than actual physical 'riffing'). One thing to say about one specific point: the bass on Black Sabbath records is actually fairly high in the mix for an average 'rock' / 'pop' record. Justin would also never deny that he was MASSIVELY influenced by Killing Joke (as he was by Big Black, and - to a lesser extent - groups like Slab! and No Trend).
The use of images not in compliance with our fair-use criteria or our policy on nonfree content is not appropriate, and the images have been removed. Please do not restore them. — Moe ε 10:55, 17 June 2007 (UTC)
The cover pic from Godflesh's self titled albumn is not William Hurt from "Altered States" it's from the movie "Begotten". You can even tell it's not William Hurt because it is a picture of A WOMAN (the "Mother Earth" character from "Begotten"). I thought the "Begotten" image was common knowledge and makes more sense than "Altered States" due to the exteremely graphic violent and surreal nature of "Begotten". —Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.144.142.198 ( talk) 00:18, 23 September 2007 (UTC)
Hi - I'm Nic Bullen: I've known Justin Broadrick since 1983. I'm afraid that you are incorrect in thinking that the cover of Godflesh's self-titled album (originally on Swordfish, then Earache) is from the film 'Begotten'. The picture is a still from the film 'Seconds' (1966 - d/John Frankenheimer) which features Rock Hudson as a bored executive who pays to be 'disappeared' and reappear with plastic surgery: the image itself is from the scenes where Hudson is forcibly restrained and sedated before the film's closing scenes, and the camera begins to be anamorphically distorted to demonstrate Hudson's fear. It was a favourite film of Gary 'Benny' Green (the bassplayer of Godflesh) - he recorded it from a showing on the English television channel BBC 2 in the mid-1980's. For another thing, 'Begotten' received a theatrical release in 1991 which is 3 years after the Godflesh self-titled record was originally released on Swordfish Records in 1988. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Hexing agent ( talk • contribs) 13:57, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
The label of the Godflesh-EP (eye&razor) is from "Un Chien Andalou". —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.221.80.52 ( talk) 15:42, 6 March 2010 (UTC)
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I propose that Fall of Because be merged into Godflesh. Most of the information on the Fall of Because page either appears in the Godflesh history section, or in the article Life Is Easy. Further details about Extirpate (about the only thing not mentioned in the Godflesh article) can be added easily. CelestialWeevil ( talk) 04:49, 11 February 2018 (UTC)
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Hi, everyone. I thought I would start to document instances of publications using this Wikipedia article as an uncited source. I'm doing this partly because it's fun(ny), and partly because I don't want this article to be flagged for copying them.
I'll add more as they're published. CelestialWeevil ( talk) 15:28, 22 August 2018 (UTC)
I think it should be changed from industrial metal to heavy metal because Godflesh has four sourced genres. Industrial metal is not vague enough to be in the lead in my opinion. ~SML • TP 14:55, 9 September 2018 (UTC)
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Really good article, but I was surprised to see Metallica listed as a band influenced by Godflesh - I love both, but don't hear it. Had a look at the cites, and the first just seems to say Kirk Hammett likes their stuff; he probably likes a lot of music, doesn't exactly mean it's all an influence on Metallica. I don't have a copy of the book that's used for the second cite - is it a bit more useful? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.25.18.193 ( talk) 19:06, 25 April 2021 (UTC)
Need your input on how to title Green's article. Should it be G. C. Green, B. C. Green, or Ben Green (musician, born 1964)? Please discuss at Talk:G. C. Green. AngusW🐶🐶F ( bark • sniff) 17:01, 7 March 2023 (UTC)
Across Wikipedia, there are artists that have more than just full-length studio albums under Discography. Nine Inch Nails (3 EPs), Guns N' Roses (1 EP), Led Zeppelin (1 compilation), Peter Frampton (2 live albums), etc. are a few examples. These exceptions are because the aforementioned releases are considered major releases in the artist's chronology. In Godflesh's case, their debut Godflesh and also their third major release Slavestate should be included.
Godflesh
Slavestate
Godflesh and Slavestate
In contrast, the Cold World and Merciless and Messiah EPs should not be included. This is because...
Cold World
Merciless
Messiah
Decline & Fall