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Attack, incident, hostage taking; what is the most proper term for this event? I moved the article to "hostage taking".-- Zoupan 10:09, 12 May 2015 (UTC)
It is totally inaccurate to call Ilirida Greater Albania. The term Greater Albania much like all other Greater proposed states is an ideology based on unifying unredeemed territory into one single state. Just as it is wrong to call the Serbian breakaway republics in wartime Bosnia and Croatia incarnations of Greater Serbia, the same applies with this campaign and the more successful Kosovo venture. The idea that Albania, a functioning Ilirida and Kosovo may one day open borders to be one state remains a suspicion, and would in any case be a fresh can of worms on the day since there would be certain opposition from within as people would wish to maintain independence. Many countries form the Arab world but that does not make it Greater Arabia, and the independence of Cyprus doesn't usher into existence Greater Greece. Ilirida and Kosovo (much like the Serbian states of the 1990s in Bosnia and Croatia) are subjects of Albanian nationalism, very different from the avowed state many wish for. -- Oranges Juicy ( talk) 11:22, 14 May 2015 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: page moved. Bgwhite ( talk) 05:59, 18 May 2015 (UTC)
Gosince attack → Gošince attack – As per official name. Гошинце (Gošince). "s" and "š" are two different letters and sounds. Zoupan 03:17, 16 May 2015 (UTC)
Zoupan, should the Gošince hostage taking redirect be deleted? Bgwhite ( talk) 06:01, 18 May 2015 (UTC)
As far as I can see, this wasn't a military conflict, but an attack. The Template:Infobox civilian attack is the right one. It needs to be changed. - Phill24th ( talk). 18:54, 18 May 2015 (UTC)
I don't understand why the result doesn't mention that the NLA veterans left the scene, one of the biggest reasons why the hostages were released and the Macedonian police are in control of the post. No reason was ever given for the removal of this part of the result. 178.175.84.49 ( talk) 20:52, 12 August 2023 (UTC)
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Attack, incident, hostage taking; what is the most proper term for this event? I moved the article to "hostage taking".-- Zoupan 10:09, 12 May 2015 (UTC)
It is totally inaccurate to call Ilirida Greater Albania. The term Greater Albania much like all other Greater proposed states is an ideology based on unifying unredeemed territory into one single state. Just as it is wrong to call the Serbian breakaway republics in wartime Bosnia and Croatia incarnations of Greater Serbia, the same applies with this campaign and the more successful Kosovo venture. The idea that Albania, a functioning Ilirida and Kosovo may one day open borders to be one state remains a suspicion, and would in any case be a fresh can of worms on the day since there would be certain opposition from within as people would wish to maintain independence. Many countries form the Arab world but that does not make it Greater Arabia, and the independence of Cyprus doesn't usher into existence Greater Greece. Ilirida and Kosovo (much like the Serbian states of the 1990s in Bosnia and Croatia) are subjects of Albanian nationalism, very different from the avowed state many wish for. -- Oranges Juicy ( talk) 11:22, 14 May 2015 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: page moved. Bgwhite ( talk) 05:59, 18 May 2015 (UTC)
Gosince attack → Gošince attack – As per official name. Гошинце (Gošince). "s" and "š" are two different letters and sounds. Zoupan 03:17, 16 May 2015 (UTC)
Zoupan, should the Gošince hostage taking redirect be deleted? Bgwhite ( talk) 06:01, 18 May 2015 (UTC)
As far as I can see, this wasn't a military conflict, but an attack. The Template:Infobox civilian attack is the right one. It needs to be changed. - Phill24th ( talk). 18:54, 18 May 2015 (UTC)
I don't understand why the result doesn't mention that the NLA veterans left the scene, one of the biggest reasons why the hostages were released and the Macedonian police are in control of the post. No reason was ever given for the removal of this part of the result. 178.175.84.49 ( talk) 20:52, 12 August 2023 (UTC)