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The article (especially the introduction) implies this is an educational charity, while the reality seems very different. Shouldn't the intro be rewritten, or at least its focus needs to emphasis its climate-denial activities... Lionfish0 ( talk) 14:21, 24 January 2012 (UTC)
We have at least five opinion pieces by Bob Ward (communications director) currently used and cited in the article, which seems to be a WP:WEIGHT problem, as Ward is a well-known partisan opposing the GWPF. I removed one that seemed particularly egregious. Ward is repeatedly and redundantly named as the "policy and communications director of the Grantham Research Institute on Climate Change", which also needs cleanup.
I also removed an unsourced bit of editorializing from the "Call for an independent inquiry" subsection: "This contradicts the articles on their website which are often attempt to cast doubt on the science of climate change." -- Pete Tillman ( talk) 05:13, 19 March 2013 (UTC)
James Wilsdon, Bob Ward's successor at the Royal Society, has some pungent remarks about Ward at The Guardian:
(Note: Ward posts his comments there as "reward")
Once again, Bob Ward is NOT a RS! -- Pete Tillman ( talk) 20:22, 5 May 2013 (UTC)
I'm disappointed, but unsurprised, at the spirited defense of what I see as the over-reliance on the published opinions of a single paid political activist in this article. Bob Ward has been described by critics as "a spin doctor for the climate science community", an "attack dog for the global warming industry", and criticized for the "problems caused by Bob [Ward]'s ham-fisted approach to the communication of climate science." Is PR man Ward really the best source for criticisms of the GWPF? -- Pete Tillman ( talk) 21:28, 8 May 2013 (UTC)
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I removed the 2021 rebranding section:
because as far as I can tell, this is about the GWPForum, not the GWPFoundation. And this is the GWPFoundation article William M. Connolley ( talk) 16:34, 27 October 2022 (UTC) William M. Connolley ( talk) 16:34, 27 October 2022 (UTC)
Recently, the foundation started Net Zero Watch, a campaigning platform highlighting what it calls the “costs of net zero”. The campaigning arm of the foundation was set up after a previous investigation by the Charity Commission found that it had breached rules on impartiality.[6]Perhaps this could be used.
The GWPF, which is registered as an educational charity, launched a new campaigning arm on Monday which will not be restricted by Charity Commission rules on political campaigning. The Global Warming Policy Forum will, like the GWPF, be chaired by Lawson and Record is one of three board members. "The new organisation will be able to conduct campaigns and activities which do not fall squarely within the foundation's remit as an educational charity," said a GWPF statement. In the statement, Lawson said: "This reorganisation will enable us to build on the progress of the past five years and make substantial further progress over the next five years which may well be decisive in the evolution of climate change policy." ...dave souza, talk
Craig Mackinlay, who runs the Net Zero Scrutiny Group (NZSG), a committee of about 20 parliamentarians, has supported the GWPF in its campaigning and two advisers to the GWPF were recently hired by Mackinlay's parliamentary office as researchers. The NZSG says it does not question climate science, but exists to question the costs of reaching net zero.dave souza, talk
The GWPF, set up in 2009 by the former Tory chancellor Lord Lawson, has enjoyed a recent revival in its influence in parliament. It has MP Steve Baker as a trustee and has its research promoted by the Net Zero Scrutiny Group of Conservative MPs.dave souza, talk
Recently, the foundation started Net Zero Watch, a campaigning platform highlighting what it calls the "costs of net zero". The campaigning arm of the foundation was set up after a previous investigation by the Charity Commission found that it had breached rules on impartiality.dave souza, talk
This is all a bit murky, with poor sourcing, but I think I mostly blame the GWPF being underhand for that; you'd think they could just say what they're doing. However, it is pretty clear that NZW==GWPForum. FFS: their "who we are" page ( https://www.netzerowatch.com/who-we-are/) last year [7] said copyright GWPForum; it's hard to know if that's just incompetence or if they really don't care. Presently [8] it says "Meet the Team / Board Members of the Global Warming Policy Forum" which is definitely not a very cunning disguise William M. Connolley ( talk) 20:30, 30 October 2022 (UTC)
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Under "Climate change denial" most of the text is concerned about what other people say about them and very little about what the GWPF has actually done to deny climate change. I propose the entire thing be rewritten so that it focuses on what the GWPF has done or said that would qualify as climate change denial, not that people who don't like them have said that they are climate change deniers. Alternatively, the title of the section should be reworded so that it matches the content. 5.186.78.167 ( talk) 21:40, 14 October 2023 (UTC)
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The article (especially the introduction) implies this is an educational charity, while the reality seems very different. Shouldn't the intro be rewritten, or at least its focus needs to emphasis its climate-denial activities... Lionfish0 ( talk) 14:21, 24 January 2012 (UTC)
We have at least five opinion pieces by Bob Ward (communications director) currently used and cited in the article, which seems to be a WP:WEIGHT problem, as Ward is a well-known partisan opposing the GWPF. I removed one that seemed particularly egregious. Ward is repeatedly and redundantly named as the "policy and communications director of the Grantham Research Institute on Climate Change", which also needs cleanup.
I also removed an unsourced bit of editorializing from the "Call for an independent inquiry" subsection: "This contradicts the articles on their website which are often attempt to cast doubt on the science of climate change." -- Pete Tillman ( talk) 05:13, 19 March 2013 (UTC)
James Wilsdon, Bob Ward's successor at the Royal Society, has some pungent remarks about Ward at The Guardian:
(Note: Ward posts his comments there as "reward")
Once again, Bob Ward is NOT a RS! -- Pete Tillman ( talk) 20:22, 5 May 2013 (UTC)
I'm disappointed, but unsurprised, at the spirited defense of what I see as the over-reliance on the published opinions of a single paid political activist in this article. Bob Ward has been described by critics as "a spin doctor for the climate science community", an "attack dog for the global warming industry", and criticized for the "problems caused by Bob [Ward]'s ham-fisted approach to the communication of climate science." Is PR man Ward really the best source for criticisms of the GWPF? -- Pete Tillman ( talk) 21:28, 8 May 2013 (UTC)
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I removed the 2021 rebranding section:
because as far as I can tell, this is about the GWPForum, not the GWPFoundation. And this is the GWPFoundation article William M. Connolley ( talk) 16:34, 27 October 2022 (UTC) William M. Connolley ( talk) 16:34, 27 October 2022 (UTC)
Recently, the foundation started Net Zero Watch, a campaigning platform highlighting what it calls the “costs of net zero”. The campaigning arm of the foundation was set up after a previous investigation by the Charity Commission found that it had breached rules on impartiality.[6]Perhaps this could be used.
The GWPF, which is registered as an educational charity, launched a new campaigning arm on Monday which will not be restricted by Charity Commission rules on political campaigning. The Global Warming Policy Forum will, like the GWPF, be chaired by Lawson and Record is one of three board members. "The new organisation will be able to conduct campaigns and activities which do not fall squarely within the foundation's remit as an educational charity," said a GWPF statement. In the statement, Lawson said: "This reorganisation will enable us to build on the progress of the past five years and make substantial further progress over the next five years which may well be decisive in the evolution of climate change policy." ...dave souza, talk
Craig Mackinlay, who runs the Net Zero Scrutiny Group (NZSG), a committee of about 20 parliamentarians, has supported the GWPF in its campaigning and two advisers to the GWPF were recently hired by Mackinlay's parliamentary office as researchers. The NZSG says it does not question climate science, but exists to question the costs of reaching net zero.dave souza, talk
The GWPF, set up in 2009 by the former Tory chancellor Lord Lawson, has enjoyed a recent revival in its influence in parliament. It has MP Steve Baker as a trustee and has its research promoted by the Net Zero Scrutiny Group of Conservative MPs.dave souza, talk
Recently, the foundation started Net Zero Watch, a campaigning platform highlighting what it calls the "costs of net zero". The campaigning arm of the foundation was set up after a previous investigation by the Charity Commission found that it had breached rules on impartiality.dave souza, talk
This is all a bit murky, with poor sourcing, but I think I mostly blame the GWPF being underhand for that; you'd think they could just say what they're doing. However, it is pretty clear that NZW==GWPForum. FFS: their "who we are" page ( https://www.netzerowatch.com/who-we-are/) last year [7] said copyright GWPForum; it's hard to know if that's just incompetence or if they really don't care. Presently [8] it says "Meet the Team / Board Members of the Global Warming Policy Forum" which is definitely not a very cunning disguise William M. Connolley ( talk) 20:30, 30 October 2022 (UTC)
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Under "Climate change denial" most of the text is concerned about what other people say about them and very little about what the GWPF has actually done to deny climate change. I propose the entire thing be rewritten so that it focuses on what the GWPF has done or said that would qualify as climate change denial, not that people who don't like them have said that they are climate change deniers. Alternatively, the title of the section should be reworded so that it matches the content. 5.186.78.167 ( talk) 21:40, 14 October 2023 (UTC)