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As of December 2017, Jeff Jarrett held another GFW event obviously showing he is still full owner of GFW and showing that the promotion isn't closed as some have assumed I feel under these circumstances the (2014—2017) should be removed from the titles name and should simply read Global Force Wrestling
JMichael22 (
talk) 18:27, 5 January 2018 (UTC) --Relisted.Paine Ellsworthput'r there 16:10, 13 January 2018 (UTC)reply
Agree I feel this a very simple matter of, is the company closed or not and with recent events it's shown that it is not
JMichael22 (
talk) 18:34, 5 January 2018 (UTC)reply
I have struck out this vote. The nominator is making this look deceptive but voting to agree with his own statement. - GalatzTalk 19:00, 5 January 2018 (UTC)reply
Thank you. I was about chide him for the same thing but was edit conflicted. Support of he nominator is assumed. It's dishonest to put "agree" with yourself.
oknazevad (
talk) 19:06, 5 January 2018 (UTC)reply
I've struck it out a second time as he reverted the first. He does
have history in !voting for his own motions.
ŞůṜīΣĻ¹98¹Speak 21:06, 10 January 2018 (UTC)reply
Wait. One event, still in 2017. Jarret used a brand he owns, but that's not a company. It's just again to a piggybacking on others' events (he was not the sole promoter of that December event). Let's wait until it looks like a going concern first. Galatz summarized it well.
oknazevad (
talk) 19:06, 5 January 2018 (UTC)reply
To answer this two week old question, a local Tennessee promotion called "Tried-N-True Pro Wrestling". See
here. Still not convinced that Jarrett has an actual company, not just a brand.
oknazevad (
talk) 20:44, 19 January 2018 (UTC)reply
Because its obvious that you are agreeing with the discussion since you started it. - GalatzTalk 19:35, 5 January 2018 (UTC)reply
Well
User:Galatz the definition of deceptive is "giving an appearance or impression different from the true one or misleading" basically calling someone a liar. So just because i agreed with the discussion your calling me a liar? Learn to use proper words to describe the situation because no where in my agreement was it a lie
JMichael22 (
talk) 19:40, 5 January 2018 (UTC)reply
Give the impression of 2 people feeling the same way when you are in fact only one person seems to fit your definition exactly. Now knock off the attacks - GalatzTalk 19:45, 5 January 2018 (UTC)reply
there is only one agreement on my behalf. i have one request move on why i feel it should be moved and then I put why I agree with it being moved there is no deception because there is still only one vote that I am entitled to do once again do not remove my vote you have 0 right to revoke my right to a vote iv been apart of multiple request moves i know that you can't dismiss my vote
JMichael22 (
talk) 19:54, 5 January 2018 (UTC)reply
It is a double vote. Period. You put your reasons for requesting the move in your request. That is your !vkte. You don't vote again. Period. That's not how this works.
oknazevad (
talk) 19:07, 6 January 2018 (UTC)reply
I think this argument could have been avoided had you said "Support as nom" instead of "Agree".
LM2000 (
talk) 05:22, 7 January 2018 (UTC)reply
To editor
JMichael22: you are invited to reread
Wikipedia:Requested moves#Commenting in a requested move, bullet #4 under "When participating, please consider the following:". This is not a vote, this is a debate and your nomination is considered to be, and counted as, "support" for the page move by closers of these debates. So your entire argument in favor of a page move should be included within your nomination. Thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia!Paine Ellsworthput'r there 15:32, 13 January 2018 (UTC)reply
Support My concerns raised in the
WT:PW discussion turned out to be accurate. Jarrett intends to use the GFW name for future events so the current title is inaccurate.
LM2000 (
talk) 09:34, 6 January 2018 (UTC)reply
Support As LM2000 said, looks like Jarrett stills in the wrestling world. --
HHH Pedrigree (
talk) 21:50, 6 January 2018 (UTC)reply
Support As per LM2000 & HHH Pedrigree. Not to mention, on the talk page referenced by LM2000, as has (WRONGLY) happened in the past here on Wikipedia, an editor (*cough*Galatz*cough*) has clearly, WRONGLY interpreted the final vote (two for option 1:Keep directing to Impact Wrestling as it has been since the name changed back., three for option 2:Update all links and then move Global Force Wrestling (2014–2017) to Global Force Wrestling, and one for option 3:Change it to a disambiguation page) that CLEARLY favors changing the article back to the non-dated GFW article as having a "clear lack of consensus" (which was NOT the case...AT ALL).
Also not to mention, the aforementioned user's closing statement in their initial comment ("I feel the first option is best since it is the most likely destination people would be looking for.") would be technically WRONG, as someone looking for Global Force Wrestling would NOT be looking for Impact Wrestling, but for Jeff Jarrett's GFW.
In fact, once the years are removed from the article for Jarrett's GFW & all links pointing to THAT article are restored BACK to it, I think the aforementioned user should be forced to apologize for their misinterpretation & be prohibited from ANY editing having to do with the article for Jarrett's GFW, as they've shown they CLEARLY cannot comprehend the information they are receiving.
2602:304:CEBF:8650:E004:548B:7400:5233 (
talk) 10:05, 12 January 2018 (UTC)reply
Please read
WP:NOTVOTE and then I will await your apology. The comments from
LM2000 and
HHH Pedrigree stating he is still in the business that you are agreeing with has no basis in
WP:PRIMARYTOPIC, so that argument gives no basis to move. The question is when people come to
Global Force Wrestling what are they more likely to look for. There has not been one argument brought forward that says more people associate the name with Jarrett's promotion than Impact. I look forward to hearing your response using WP policy not your opinion as a response. - GalatzTalk 15:18, 12 January 2018 (UTC)reply
Jarrett retained the rights and ownership to his Global Force Wrestling promotion. Also, if he make a new event in 2018, we should change the name to GFW (2014-2018) or (2014-present). The fusion between Impact and GFW never happened. The rename was just for a few months. --
HHH Pedrigree (
talk) 15:28, 12 January 2018 (UTC)reply
As I stated above, I think it should be
Global Force Wrestling (2014 company). I see no reason for an end date to be included. When TNA was known as GFW they had a nationally televised TV show. Jarrett's company does small non-televised shows. Just because he still uses the name, that doesnt make it the
WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. - GalatzTalk 15:44, 12 January 2018 (UTC)reply
I think there's a claim to
WP:PRIMARYTOPIC because they were treated as two different entities until Slammiversary.
LM2000 (
talk) 05:55, 13 January 2018 (UTC)reply
Support He is holding events under Global Force Wrestling again
WP:PRIMARYTOPIC is the claim, IMPACT Wrestling used the GFW name for what 3 months? They never owned the rights to the company name of logo Jeff owned it all throughout the impact run and once they broke ties he restarted GFW no years should be needed at all its just Global Force Wrestling but I feel a separate section on the page should have all the information regarding the Impact Wrestling / GFW merger.
LovelyAngle (
talk) 16:23, 13 January 2018 (UTC)reply
Support JARRETT STILL HOLDS THE RIGHTS AND IS CURRENTLY PROMOTING GFW. — Preceding
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Okay then. Now promoting to GA class.
MWright96(talk) 05:07, 24 April 2018 (UTC)reply
Another name change?
I'm not suggesting that we move the article, or even make any substantial changes, but in their press release for the Fite TV deal they call themselves "Global Force Entertainment" and "GFE". The article has a new GFE logo but the main website logo has not changed.
[1] The official company name was always Global Force Entertainment to begin with, so this could be a nothing, but we should keep an eye on it.
LM2000 (
talk) 08:04, 28 May 2018 (UTC)reply
Recent sources have used the GFW name again, so I'm going to assume they were using GFE while talking about the company's legal name.
LM2000 (
talk) 09:56, 28 July 2018 (UTC)reply
Request to rename the article to Global Wrestling Entertainment.
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Support move. This is a rather obvious case, as the founder has actively renamed it. ONR(talk) 07:45, 18 November 2018 (UTC) (Removing support 12:51, 19 November 2018 (UTC))reply
Oppose Where has this promotion ever been called "Global Wrestling Entertainment"? Did you mean "Global Force Entertainment"? As you can read from
#Another name change?, I've been following this since early this year. Global Force Entertainment, inc. has been the official company name since day one and they've put out some confusing press releases since they separated from Impact in which they use both the GFW and GFE names. However, they have continued using the GFW name, including in the NWA 70 announcement.
[2] It remains
WP:COMMONNAME.
LM2000 (
talk) 08:19, 18 November 2018 (UTC)reply
Oppose I think Epicneter missed the name. I googled GWE and I found nothing. GFW looks like is the official name. --
HHH Pedrigree (
talk) 08:58, 19 November 2018 (UTC)reply
Oppose. Nomination is based on a misunderstanding of the facts. "Global Force Entertainment" is the legal name of the company, "Global Force Wrestling" is the dba promotion name that hasn't been used much lately but remains the best known, and therefore
WP:COMMONNAME. The proposed title is neither, and seems to be a plain mistake.
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The result of the move request was: Not moved. This was literally discussed in the previous RM with clear consensus that
WP:COMMONNAME calls for the current title to remain. Really no need for an additional discussion.(
non-admin closure)
oknazevad (
talk) 14:26, 26 November 2018 (UTC)reply
Global Force Wrestling → Global Force Entertainment – Global Force Entertainment (GFE) owner Jeff Jarrett has stated multiple times that the promotion has been renamed to "Global Force Entertainment" or "GFE." Their name on Twitter is even "Global Force Entertainment[1] and we even call the promotion "Global Force Entertainment" in the Wikipedia page.
Epicneter (
talk) 00:20, 26 November 2018 (UTC)reply
Oppose - The issue was already discussed in the section above. Not to mention, the promotion's official website STILL references it as GFW. In fact, the actual Twitter handle for the company (@GFWWrestling) STILL references the company's GFW branding. Did you ever think that maybe Jarrett was referring to the company in a CORPORATE capacity? Now, I'd support the move IF its website referred to it as Global Force Entertainment/GFE & if its Twitter handle did the same. But, until that happens, I firmly oppose moving the page's name from its Global Force Wrestling/GFW branding.
2600:1700:C960:2270:A05E:DC74:77A1:D86A (
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Oppose and speedy close The company name has always been Global Force Entertainment but they do business as Global Force Wrestling. The last move discussion was just closed and although you requested a different name in error we understood what you meant.
LM2000 (
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As of December 2017, Jeff Jarrett held another GFW event obviously showing he is still full owner of GFW and showing that the promotion isn't closed as some have assumed I feel under these circumstances the (2014—2017) should be removed from the titles name and should simply read Global Force Wrestling
JMichael22 (
talk) 18:27, 5 January 2018 (UTC) --Relisted.Paine Ellsworthput'r there 16:10, 13 January 2018 (UTC)reply
Agree I feel this a very simple matter of, is the company closed or not and with recent events it's shown that it is not
JMichael22 (
talk) 18:34, 5 January 2018 (UTC)reply
I have struck out this vote. The nominator is making this look deceptive but voting to agree with his own statement. - GalatzTalk 19:00, 5 January 2018 (UTC)reply
Thank you. I was about chide him for the same thing but was edit conflicted. Support of he nominator is assumed. It's dishonest to put "agree" with yourself.
oknazevad (
talk) 19:06, 5 January 2018 (UTC)reply
I've struck it out a second time as he reverted the first. He does
have history in !voting for his own motions.
ŞůṜīΣĻ¹98¹Speak 21:06, 10 January 2018 (UTC)reply
Wait. One event, still in 2017. Jarret used a brand he owns, but that's not a company. It's just again to a piggybacking on others' events (he was not the sole promoter of that December event). Let's wait until it looks like a going concern first. Galatz summarized it well.
oknazevad (
talk) 19:06, 5 January 2018 (UTC)reply
To answer this two week old question, a local Tennessee promotion called "Tried-N-True Pro Wrestling". See
here. Still not convinced that Jarrett has an actual company, not just a brand.
oknazevad (
talk) 20:44, 19 January 2018 (UTC)reply
Because its obvious that you are agreeing with the discussion since you started it. - GalatzTalk 19:35, 5 January 2018 (UTC)reply
Well
User:Galatz the definition of deceptive is "giving an appearance or impression different from the true one or misleading" basically calling someone a liar. So just because i agreed with the discussion your calling me a liar? Learn to use proper words to describe the situation because no where in my agreement was it a lie
JMichael22 (
talk) 19:40, 5 January 2018 (UTC)reply
Give the impression of 2 people feeling the same way when you are in fact only one person seems to fit your definition exactly. Now knock off the attacks - GalatzTalk 19:45, 5 January 2018 (UTC)reply
there is only one agreement on my behalf. i have one request move on why i feel it should be moved and then I put why I agree with it being moved there is no deception because there is still only one vote that I am entitled to do once again do not remove my vote you have 0 right to revoke my right to a vote iv been apart of multiple request moves i know that you can't dismiss my vote
JMichael22 (
talk) 19:54, 5 January 2018 (UTC)reply
It is a double vote. Period. You put your reasons for requesting the move in your request. That is your !vkte. You don't vote again. Period. That's not how this works.
oknazevad (
talk) 19:07, 6 January 2018 (UTC)reply
I think this argument could have been avoided had you said "Support as nom" instead of "Agree".
LM2000 (
talk) 05:22, 7 January 2018 (UTC)reply
To editor
JMichael22: you are invited to reread
Wikipedia:Requested moves#Commenting in a requested move, bullet #4 under "When participating, please consider the following:". This is not a vote, this is a debate and your nomination is considered to be, and counted as, "support" for the page move by closers of these debates. So your entire argument in favor of a page move should be included within your nomination. Thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia!Paine Ellsworthput'r there 15:32, 13 January 2018 (UTC)reply
Support My concerns raised in the
WT:PW discussion turned out to be accurate. Jarrett intends to use the GFW name for future events so the current title is inaccurate.
LM2000 (
talk) 09:34, 6 January 2018 (UTC)reply
Support As LM2000 said, looks like Jarrett stills in the wrestling world. --
HHH Pedrigree (
talk) 21:50, 6 January 2018 (UTC)reply
Support As per LM2000 & HHH Pedrigree. Not to mention, on the talk page referenced by LM2000, as has (WRONGLY) happened in the past here on Wikipedia, an editor (*cough*Galatz*cough*) has clearly, WRONGLY interpreted the final vote (two for option 1:Keep directing to Impact Wrestling as it has been since the name changed back., three for option 2:Update all links and then move Global Force Wrestling (2014–2017) to Global Force Wrestling, and one for option 3:Change it to a disambiguation page) that CLEARLY favors changing the article back to the non-dated GFW article as having a "clear lack of consensus" (which was NOT the case...AT ALL).
Also not to mention, the aforementioned user's closing statement in their initial comment ("I feel the first option is best since it is the most likely destination people would be looking for.") would be technically WRONG, as someone looking for Global Force Wrestling would NOT be looking for Impact Wrestling, but for Jeff Jarrett's GFW.
In fact, once the years are removed from the article for Jarrett's GFW & all links pointing to THAT article are restored BACK to it, I think the aforementioned user should be forced to apologize for their misinterpretation & be prohibited from ANY editing having to do with the article for Jarrett's GFW, as they've shown they CLEARLY cannot comprehend the information they are receiving.
2602:304:CEBF:8650:E004:548B:7400:5233 (
talk) 10:05, 12 January 2018 (UTC)reply
Please read
WP:NOTVOTE and then I will await your apology. The comments from
LM2000 and
HHH Pedrigree stating he is still in the business that you are agreeing with has no basis in
WP:PRIMARYTOPIC, so that argument gives no basis to move. The question is when people come to
Global Force Wrestling what are they more likely to look for. There has not been one argument brought forward that says more people associate the name with Jarrett's promotion than Impact. I look forward to hearing your response using WP policy not your opinion as a response. - GalatzTalk 15:18, 12 January 2018 (UTC)reply
Jarrett retained the rights and ownership to his Global Force Wrestling promotion. Also, if he make a new event in 2018, we should change the name to GFW (2014-2018) or (2014-present). The fusion between Impact and GFW never happened. The rename was just for a few months. --
HHH Pedrigree (
talk) 15:28, 12 January 2018 (UTC)reply
As I stated above, I think it should be
Global Force Wrestling (2014 company). I see no reason for an end date to be included. When TNA was known as GFW they had a nationally televised TV show. Jarrett's company does small non-televised shows. Just because he still uses the name, that doesnt make it the
WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. - GalatzTalk 15:44, 12 January 2018 (UTC)reply
I think there's a claim to
WP:PRIMARYTOPIC because they were treated as two different entities until Slammiversary.
LM2000 (
talk) 05:55, 13 January 2018 (UTC)reply
Support He is holding events under Global Force Wrestling again
WP:PRIMARYTOPIC is the claim, IMPACT Wrestling used the GFW name for what 3 months? They never owned the rights to the company name of logo Jeff owned it all throughout the impact run and once they broke ties he restarted GFW no years should be needed at all its just Global Force Wrestling but I feel a separate section on the page should have all the information regarding the Impact Wrestling / GFW merger.
LovelyAngle (
talk) 16:23, 13 January 2018 (UTC)reply
Support JARRETT STILL HOLDS THE RIGHTS AND IS CURRENTLY PROMOTING GFW. — Preceding
unsigned comment added by
92.27.41.69 (
talk) 17:30, 14 January 2018 (UTC)reply
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Okay then. Now promoting to GA class.
MWright96(talk) 05:07, 24 April 2018 (UTC)reply
Another name change?
I'm not suggesting that we move the article, or even make any substantial changes, but in their press release for the Fite TV deal they call themselves "Global Force Entertainment" and "GFE". The article has a new GFE logo but the main website logo has not changed.
[1] The official company name was always Global Force Entertainment to begin with, so this could be a nothing, but we should keep an eye on it.
LM2000 (
talk) 08:04, 28 May 2018 (UTC)reply
Recent sources have used the GFW name again, so I'm going to assume they were using GFE while talking about the company's legal name.
LM2000 (
talk) 09:56, 28 July 2018 (UTC)reply
Request to rename the article to Global Wrestling Entertainment.
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Support move. This is a rather obvious case, as the founder has actively renamed it. ONR(talk) 07:45, 18 November 2018 (UTC) (Removing support 12:51, 19 November 2018 (UTC))reply
Oppose Where has this promotion ever been called "Global Wrestling Entertainment"? Did you mean "Global Force Entertainment"? As you can read from
#Another name change?, I've been following this since early this year. Global Force Entertainment, inc. has been the official company name since day one and they've put out some confusing press releases since they separated from Impact in which they use both the GFW and GFE names. However, they have continued using the GFW name, including in the NWA 70 announcement.
[2] It remains
WP:COMMONNAME.
LM2000 (
talk) 08:19, 18 November 2018 (UTC)reply
Oppose I think Epicneter missed the name. I googled GWE and I found nothing. GFW looks like is the official name. --
HHH Pedrigree (
talk) 08:58, 19 November 2018 (UTC)reply
Oppose. Nomination is based on a misunderstanding of the facts. "Global Force Entertainment" is the legal name of the company, "Global Force Wrestling" is the dba promotion name that hasn't been used much lately but remains the best known, and therefore
WP:COMMONNAME. The proposed title is neither, and seems to be a plain mistake.
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The result of the move request was: Not moved. This was literally discussed in the previous RM with clear consensus that
WP:COMMONNAME calls for the current title to remain. Really no need for an additional discussion.(
non-admin closure)
oknazevad (
talk) 14:26, 26 November 2018 (UTC)reply
Global Force Wrestling → Global Force Entertainment – Global Force Entertainment (GFE) owner Jeff Jarrett has stated multiple times that the promotion has been renamed to "Global Force Entertainment" or "GFE." Their name on Twitter is even "Global Force Entertainment[1] and we even call the promotion "Global Force Entertainment" in the Wikipedia page.
Epicneter (
talk) 00:20, 26 November 2018 (UTC)reply
Oppose - The issue was already discussed in the section above. Not to mention, the promotion's official website STILL references it as GFW. In fact, the actual Twitter handle for the company (@GFWWrestling) STILL references the company's GFW branding. Did you ever think that maybe Jarrett was referring to the company in a CORPORATE capacity? Now, I'd support the move IF its website referred to it as Global Force Entertainment/GFE & if its Twitter handle did the same. But, until that happens, I firmly oppose moving the page's name from its Global Force Wrestling/GFW branding.
2600:1700:C960:2270:A05E:DC74:77A1:D86A (
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Oppose and speedy close The company name has always been Global Force Entertainment but they do business as Global Force Wrestling. The last move discussion was just closed and although you requested a different name in error we understood what you meant.
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