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When I saw that the bridge was called the Bridge of Spies, I wondered if this was a pun on the Bridge of Sighs in Venice. Does anyone know? We'd need a source, of course, to add it to the article. -- Trovatore ( talk) 05:53, 21 July 2008 (UTC)
Right now, the article reads, "During the Cold War, Glienicke Bridge was one of the few places in the world where the Soviet Union and the Western powers stood directly opposite each other. Thus, 'deals' could be made here without any of their allies having any say in the matter."
1) This verbiage is taken verbatim from the website www.glienicke-bridge.com. ("It was one of the few places in the world where the United States and the Soviet Union stood directly opposite each other. And so “deals” could be made here without any of their allies having any say in the matter.")
2) That claim is factually inaccurate for several reasons. a) The Glienicke Bridge was not the border between the Soviet Union and the Western powers. The Glienicke Bridge was inside Germany. It spanned the border between the German Democratic Republic and West Berlin, which was affiliated with the Federal Republic of Germany and which was formally under joint Allied control. If anything, it was the Eastern bloc side where allies had sovereignty, namely East Germany. The Americans had technical control over the sector of Berlin that abutted the bridge. b) There were many places were the Western powers and the Eastern bloc faced each other. In fact, the entire border between the GDR and FRG, the border between the GDR/East Berlin and West Berlin, the border between the FRG and Czechoslovakia, the border between Bulgaria and Greece, the border between Bulgaria and Turkey, and the border between the USSR and Turkey were all places where the Warsaw Pact directed bordered NATO countries. This claim about the Glienicke Bridge is puffery, and I am deleting it. Poldy Bloom ( talk) 02:53, 3 January 2014 (UTC)
How about a locator map showing where it lies in the context of Berlin and Potsdam, with the old Iron Curtain delineated thereon? Not too big a map, though — we don't need to see all of Berlin. Sca ( talk) 15:57, 13 February 2014 (UTC)
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I have just removed that from the section about popular culture. The bridge is not used, or alluded to, in Smiley's People, neither the book nor the miniseries. The book makes it clear that the bridge in question is in the center of Berlin, mentioning the elevated train, and a "Turkish quarter" close to the Wall. The bridge in the miniseries is similarly located, and clearly not Glienicke Bridge (not that they could have filmed there during the 1980s anyway). Udittmer ( talk) 10:23, 17 February 2022 (UTC)
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When I saw that the bridge was called the Bridge of Spies, I wondered if this was a pun on the Bridge of Sighs in Venice. Does anyone know? We'd need a source, of course, to add it to the article. -- Trovatore ( talk) 05:53, 21 July 2008 (UTC)
Right now, the article reads, "During the Cold War, Glienicke Bridge was one of the few places in the world where the Soviet Union and the Western powers stood directly opposite each other. Thus, 'deals' could be made here without any of their allies having any say in the matter."
1) This verbiage is taken verbatim from the website www.glienicke-bridge.com. ("It was one of the few places in the world where the United States and the Soviet Union stood directly opposite each other. And so “deals” could be made here without any of their allies having any say in the matter.")
2) That claim is factually inaccurate for several reasons. a) The Glienicke Bridge was not the border between the Soviet Union and the Western powers. The Glienicke Bridge was inside Germany. It spanned the border between the German Democratic Republic and West Berlin, which was affiliated with the Federal Republic of Germany and which was formally under joint Allied control. If anything, it was the Eastern bloc side where allies had sovereignty, namely East Germany. The Americans had technical control over the sector of Berlin that abutted the bridge. b) There were many places were the Western powers and the Eastern bloc faced each other. In fact, the entire border between the GDR and FRG, the border between the GDR/East Berlin and West Berlin, the border between the FRG and Czechoslovakia, the border between Bulgaria and Greece, the border between Bulgaria and Turkey, and the border between the USSR and Turkey were all places where the Warsaw Pact directed bordered NATO countries. This claim about the Glienicke Bridge is puffery, and I am deleting it. Poldy Bloom ( talk) 02:53, 3 January 2014 (UTC)
How about a locator map showing where it lies in the context of Berlin and Potsdam, with the old Iron Curtain delineated thereon? Not too big a map, though — we don't need to see all of Berlin. Sca ( talk) 15:57, 13 February 2014 (UTC)
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I have just removed that from the section about popular culture. The bridge is not used, or alluded to, in Smiley's People, neither the book nor the miniseries. The book makes it clear that the bridge in question is in the center of Berlin, mentioning the elevated train, and a "Turkish quarter" close to the Wall. The bridge in the miniseries is similarly located, and clearly not Glienicke Bridge (not that they could have filmed there during the 1980s anyway). Udittmer ( talk) 10:23, 17 February 2022 (UTC)