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That prominent quote about Israel and Kashmir is not only unsourced, but also seems likely to have been fabricated. I suggest removal unless a source is found. —Preceding
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131.216.110.54 (
talk) 20:36, 17 April 2008 (UTC)reply
Removed references on the Sun article controversy
The following self-published sources (blogs) were removed from the Criticism section on The Sun article controversy. Although these sources essentially say the same thing as the published sources,
Wikipedia policy states that we should not use self-published sources in biographies of living persons. I have therefore removed these references (which were inserted by me in the first place anyway!), and kept only the published reference.
I understand the linking policy, but do think these individuals should get the credit for their research, rather than just Private Eye. Is there a way to do this without violating EL policy?
SteveLoughran (
talk) 22:15, 25 January 2009 (UTC)reply
I agree, as I think the bloggers' articles may have been what prompted the Private Eye to investigate. I'd like to give them credit but have no idea how - apart from on this talk page... --
Buyoof (
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Para makes no sense
Jenvey subsequently said he converted to Islam, and released a full apology for the story on 19 August 2009. His apology cited the "chance to install fear back in Jews who were killing Muslims" as his motive .But this was untrue as Jenvey was invited into British Islamic circles where he uncovered more link's of terrorism in the UK.
I can't edit this paragraph as I don't understand the last two sentences - nor what they are intended to mean. If it is not possible to decipher this and edit within a reasonable time, then the paragraph will have to be deleted.
Centrepull (
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You're not the only one. This article is very unclear to read, and doesn't make it obvious who Glen Jenvey is or what he really believes. The section quoted above is also entirely unsourced. This article needs serious cleanup to come into line with BLP, or possibly deletion.
Robofish (
talk) 21:43, 16 April 2013 (UTC)reply
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That prominent quote about Israel and Kashmir is not only unsourced, but also seems likely to have been fabricated. I suggest removal unless a source is found. —Preceding
unsigned comment added by
131.216.110.54 (
talk) 20:36, 17 April 2008 (UTC)reply
Removed references on the Sun article controversy
The following self-published sources (blogs) were removed from the Criticism section on The Sun article controversy. Although these sources essentially say the same thing as the published sources,
Wikipedia policy states that we should not use self-published sources in biographies of living persons. I have therefore removed these references (which were inserted by me in the first place anyway!), and kept only the published reference.
I understand the linking policy, but do think these individuals should get the credit for their research, rather than just Private Eye. Is there a way to do this without violating EL policy?
SteveLoughran (
talk) 22:15, 25 January 2009 (UTC)reply
I agree, as I think the bloggers' articles may have been what prompted the Private Eye to investigate. I'd like to give them credit but have no idea how - apart from on this talk page... --
Buyoof (
talk) 21:24, 26 January 2009 (UTC)reply
Para makes no sense
Jenvey subsequently said he converted to Islam, and released a full apology for the story on 19 August 2009. His apology cited the "chance to install fear back in Jews who were killing Muslims" as his motive .But this was untrue as Jenvey was invited into British Islamic circles where he uncovered more link's of terrorism in the UK.
I can't edit this paragraph as I don't understand the last two sentences - nor what they are intended to mean. If it is not possible to decipher this and edit within a reasonable time, then the paragraph will have to be deleted.
Centrepull (
talk) 14:34, 9 July 2012 (UTC)reply
You're not the only one. This article is very unclear to read, and doesn't make it obvious who Glen Jenvey is or what he really believes. The section quoted above is also entirely unsourced. This article needs serious cleanup to come into line with BLP, or possibly deletion.
Robofish (
talk) 21:43, 16 April 2013 (UTC)reply