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Friendly reminder. -- 2603:9000:A511:9E76:EC47:7D74:AF65:2334 ( talk) 16:01, 26 June 2020 (UTC)
Before we can assert in Wiki's voice how many people have died, we need to see those assertions being the consensus in the reliable sources. Currently all we have confirmed is that the suspect was shot dead by the police. -- DeFacto ( talk). 17:00, 26 June 2020 (UTC)
Someone screwed it up. I think it was right before. I don't have the time to figure out who did this. It now says "The other injured men are three asylum seekers and two hotel staff members, aged 18, 20, 38 and 53". That does not add up. Sloppy and stupid. -- 2604:2000:E010:1100:3CB1:2CAD:16BF:6112 ( talk) 20:14, 27 June 2020 (UTC)
Moved here from my talkpage. -- DeFacto ( talk). 20:30, 27 June 2020 (UTC)
Not everyone knows where Glasgow is. I don't think it a good approach for you to delete the country from the article here. https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Glasgow_hotel_stabbings&diff=964745350&oldid=964745112
Also, I do not under stand your other edits here, in particular for example your changing "suspect" to "alleged suspect." https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Glasgow_hotel_stabbings&diff=964745112&oldid=964744666 He was a suspect. Period. You can say alleged attacker (though I am not sure when alleged gets dropped when someone is killed since there is not court determination). But a most definite suspect. What support do you have for calling him an "alleged" suspect? Or are you making that up, adding that description on your own take of the situation? Other changes, such as your deleting the fact that people were hospitalized, or changing the normal phrase "mass" stabbing to "multiple" stabbing, are also puzzling to me. I do not see them as improvements.
-- 2604:2000:E010:1100:3CB1:2CAD:16BF:6112 ( talk) 20:02, 27 June 2020 (UTC)
Added name, which was just released by SKY News, subsequently removed. Perpetrators name is Badreddin Abadlla Adam. Unsure why it was removed, but the edit removing it suggested taking it to the talk... Cheesy McGee ( talk) 21:20, 27 June 2020 (UTC)
As the person's name adds nothing of any intrinsic value to the article, this is a case where "merely being true, or even verifiable, does not automatically make something suitable for inclusion in the encyclopedia" per WP:INDISCRIMINATE. -- DeFacto ( talk). 15:52, 15 July 2020 (UTC)
Should the title include the year of the attack to identify it more precisely, like the reading attack for example? Llewee ( talk) 13:13, 28 June 2020 (UTC)
Smithr32 there is a discussion about the name here, please participate in it rather than renaming the article again. -- DeFacto ( talk). 21:07, 28 June 2020 (UTC)
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Friendly reminder. -- 2603:9000:A511:9E76:EC47:7D74:AF65:2334 ( talk) 16:01, 26 June 2020 (UTC)
Before we can assert in Wiki's voice how many people have died, we need to see those assertions being the consensus in the reliable sources. Currently all we have confirmed is that the suspect was shot dead by the police. -- DeFacto ( talk). 17:00, 26 June 2020 (UTC)
Someone screwed it up. I think it was right before. I don't have the time to figure out who did this. It now says "The other injured men are three asylum seekers and two hotel staff members, aged 18, 20, 38 and 53". That does not add up. Sloppy and stupid. -- 2604:2000:E010:1100:3CB1:2CAD:16BF:6112 ( talk) 20:14, 27 June 2020 (UTC)
Moved here from my talkpage. -- DeFacto ( talk). 20:30, 27 June 2020 (UTC)
Not everyone knows where Glasgow is. I don't think it a good approach for you to delete the country from the article here. https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Glasgow_hotel_stabbings&diff=964745350&oldid=964745112
Also, I do not under stand your other edits here, in particular for example your changing "suspect" to "alleged suspect." https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Glasgow_hotel_stabbings&diff=964745112&oldid=964744666 He was a suspect. Period. You can say alleged attacker (though I am not sure when alleged gets dropped when someone is killed since there is not court determination). But a most definite suspect. What support do you have for calling him an "alleged" suspect? Or are you making that up, adding that description on your own take of the situation? Other changes, such as your deleting the fact that people were hospitalized, or changing the normal phrase "mass" stabbing to "multiple" stabbing, are also puzzling to me. I do not see them as improvements.
-- 2604:2000:E010:1100:3CB1:2CAD:16BF:6112 ( talk) 20:02, 27 June 2020 (UTC)
Added name, which was just released by SKY News, subsequently removed. Perpetrators name is Badreddin Abadlla Adam. Unsure why it was removed, but the edit removing it suggested taking it to the talk... Cheesy McGee ( talk) 21:20, 27 June 2020 (UTC)
As the person's name adds nothing of any intrinsic value to the article, this is a case where "merely being true, or even verifiable, does not automatically make something suitable for inclusion in the encyclopedia" per WP:INDISCRIMINATE. -- DeFacto ( talk). 15:52, 15 July 2020 (UTC)
Should the title include the year of the attack to identify it more precisely, like the reading attack for example? Llewee ( talk) 13:13, 28 June 2020 (UTC)
Smithr32 there is a discussion about the name here, please participate in it rather than renaming the article again. -- DeFacto ( talk). 21:07, 28 June 2020 (UTC)