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I'm thinking the information on the Irvine and Kilmarnock line and Dalry to Kilmarnock line pages could be moved completely to this page now that this page covers all the stations on the GPKAR? Dreamer84 22:57, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
Come across something odd about this station. The Butt date of opening is in 1839 along with the rest of that section of line, however the book Ayrshire's Last Days of Steam gives the date as 1886! I'd actually be more inclined to go with the 1886 date as it doesn't seem possible for Newton-on-Ayr to lead into/out of the original Ayr station at the harbour, as the station is off to the south east of the location of the old Ayr junction, which would have made it a very odd terminus if it opened in 1839. -- Dreamer84 01:31, 12 December 2006 (UTC)
I'm not really sure whether i should correct the station to its current name for the article. On the one hand it opened as Howwood\Howood and so this is currently how it is known. On the other hand, i moved the page some time ago as there are 2 Howwoods (or exceedingly close) in the UK, however neither are referred to by the counties in which they are in, in the names. They have their current names for disambig. Simply south 21:49, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
The GA review has been archived to this page. Dr. Cash ( talk) 20:23, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
I'm currently working on improving this article to bring it up to GA (or better), and have noticed a contradiction of dates: Awdry states that the line opened from the south as far as Beith on 21 July 1840, with the rest of the line (all the way to Glasgow) opening on 12 August 1840. However, Butt gives 21 July as the opening date for all stations from Dalry to Paisley Gilmour St (except Lochwinnoch, which was apparently 12 August). Does anyone know of a third source that could back up either claim, or have any views themselves? --- Dreamer 84 16:54, 19 April 2008 (UTC)
I finally understand the confusion here after getting hold of a copy of The Glasgow and South Western Railway, published by the Stephenson Locomotive Society in 1950. The line was opened from Kilwinning to Beith on 21 July 1840, but also opened at the other end from Glasgow to How(w)ood on the same day. That's the reason Lochwinnoch didn't opened till the next month, as the line between Howwood and Beith hadn't opened yet. It must also explain why 'Howood' station had a short life: it must have been acting as a temporary terminal station until the line fully opened. So technically there was no contradiction after all, but maybe just a litle bit of miswording on the part of Awdry. --- Dreamer 84 17:07, 24 April 2008 (UTC)
Hey, a couple of months ago you uploaded this diagram of a locomotive from Whishaw's book that you indicated as being of the Glasgow, Paisley, Kilmarnock and Ayr Railway. I was wondering, are you sure it was a GPK&AR loco? Its just the book's description of the engines used on the line at the time doesn't match this design (supposedly they only had 4 wheels for one thing). Whishaw also mentions that the GPK&AR locos were the same as the ones used on the London and Birmingham Railway, one of which is shown on Plate VI. --- Dreamer 84 17:19, 19 April 2008 (UTC)
The GA review has been archived and can be accessed here. Dr. Cash ( talk) 20:20, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
Goodness this article is bad. There are entire sections that are unsourced such as.
And is this even written well? There's sections called
This article seems to have a lot of problems. This will take a lot of effort to fix. Onegreatjoke ( talk) 16:13, 1 February 2023 (UTC)
![]() | Glasgow, Paisley, Kilmarnock and Ayr Railway was one of the Engineering and technology good articles, but it has been removed from the list. There are suggestions below for improving the article to meet the good article criteria. Once these issues have been addressed, the article can be renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake. | |||||||||||||||
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I'm thinking the information on the Irvine and Kilmarnock line and Dalry to Kilmarnock line pages could be moved completely to this page now that this page covers all the stations on the GPKAR? Dreamer84 22:57, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
Come across something odd about this station. The Butt date of opening is in 1839 along with the rest of that section of line, however the book Ayrshire's Last Days of Steam gives the date as 1886! I'd actually be more inclined to go with the 1886 date as it doesn't seem possible for Newton-on-Ayr to lead into/out of the original Ayr station at the harbour, as the station is off to the south east of the location of the old Ayr junction, which would have made it a very odd terminus if it opened in 1839. -- Dreamer84 01:31, 12 December 2006 (UTC)
I'm not really sure whether i should correct the station to its current name for the article. On the one hand it opened as Howwood\Howood and so this is currently how it is known. On the other hand, i moved the page some time ago as there are 2 Howwoods (or exceedingly close) in the UK, however neither are referred to by the counties in which they are in, in the names. They have their current names for disambig. Simply south 21:49, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
The GA review has been archived to this page. Dr. Cash ( talk) 20:23, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
I'm currently working on improving this article to bring it up to GA (or better), and have noticed a contradiction of dates: Awdry states that the line opened from the south as far as Beith on 21 July 1840, with the rest of the line (all the way to Glasgow) opening on 12 August 1840. However, Butt gives 21 July as the opening date for all stations from Dalry to Paisley Gilmour St (except Lochwinnoch, which was apparently 12 August). Does anyone know of a third source that could back up either claim, or have any views themselves? --- Dreamer 84 16:54, 19 April 2008 (UTC)
I finally understand the confusion here after getting hold of a copy of The Glasgow and South Western Railway, published by the Stephenson Locomotive Society in 1950. The line was opened from Kilwinning to Beith on 21 July 1840, but also opened at the other end from Glasgow to How(w)ood on the same day. That's the reason Lochwinnoch didn't opened till the next month, as the line between Howwood and Beith hadn't opened yet. It must also explain why 'Howood' station had a short life: it must have been acting as a temporary terminal station until the line fully opened. So technically there was no contradiction after all, but maybe just a litle bit of miswording on the part of Awdry. --- Dreamer 84 17:07, 24 April 2008 (UTC)
Hey, a couple of months ago you uploaded this diagram of a locomotive from Whishaw's book that you indicated as being of the Glasgow, Paisley, Kilmarnock and Ayr Railway. I was wondering, are you sure it was a GPK&AR loco? Its just the book's description of the engines used on the line at the time doesn't match this design (supposedly they only had 4 wheels for one thing). Whishaw also mentions that the GPK&AR locos were the same as the ones used on the London and Birmingham Railway, one of which is shown on Plate VI. --- Dreamer 84 17:19, 19 April 2008 (UTC)
The GA review has been archived and can be accessed here. Dr. Cash ( talk) 20:20, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
Goodness this article is bad. There are entire sections that are unsourced such as.
And is this even written well? There's sections called
This article seems to have a lot of problems. This will take a lot of effort to fix. Onegreatjoke ( talk) 16:13, 1 February 2023 (UTC)