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On 11 July 2023, it was proposed that this article be moved to Orbost railway line. The result of the discussion was not moved. |
There is a move discussion in progress on Talk:Ballarat to Daylesford railway line, Victoria which affects this page. Please participate on that page and not in this talk page section. Thank you. — RM bot 07:01, 17 November 2010 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: Moved. ( non-admin closure) samee converse 21:54, 20 March 2019 (UTC)
References
Today the article has been subject of some copy and paste moves that were not made in compliance with the moving a page process. Editors can’t just copy and paste text from other to the other. In light of the consensus reached in the section above, the only way the article will be able to be moved is by way of a consensus being reached at a new requested move. Bagufleat ( talk) 03:43, 11 July 2023 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: not moved. ( closed by non-admin page mover) EggRoll97 ( talk) 08:05, 18 July 2023 (UTC)
Gippsland railway line →
Orbost railway line – As per
Wikipedia:WikiProject Australian Transport/Naming convention and guidelines#Naming - lines, the correct name should be "Orbost railway line" as that is the official name used by the then operator
Victorian Railways. This would also require the current
Orbost railway line to be swapped with this page.
As was pointed out in the previous naming request "rail line used to run to Orbost", if we use this as a precedent changing article name to only reflect stations that are open, how do we go about naming closed lines?
There appears to also be a bit of confusion between "Gippsland (Bairnsdale) V/Line service" and "Gippsland (Orbost) railway line".
In response to the last naming request:
Orbost railway line → Gippsland railway line – I request that 'Orbost railway line' be moved to 'Gippsland railway line' since the former term is archaic, given the fact that Orbost station is no longer operational. Since V/Line and PTV themselves use the term 'Gippsland line' to jointly refer to the Traralgon and Bairnsdale lines, it would make sense that Wikipedia reflects this terminology in order to clearly convey such information.
— LeoC12
"... no longer operational" are we to delete all historical references from Wikipedia just because something is no longer around? "Since V/Line and PTV...", this is discussion for Gippsland V/Line rail service not this page.
Move to Bairnsdale railway line. With only a few exceptions like South Gippsland railway line, the articles about Victorian railway lines are in the format "TERMINUS railway line". Breaking that convention is simply confusing. The V/Line rail services are a different matter. ...
— Triptothecottage
"TERMINUS railway line", the terminus is Orbost even if the tracks have been removed or should we also rename the South Gippsland railway line to Cranbourne as the tracks beyond have been removed?
This rail line used to run to Orbost. It now runs to Bairnsdale with a coach line to Orbost. "Orbost" is now the historical name for the railway line. As per V/Line Stations & Stops "Gippsland" is the current name for the truncated line.
— Danielklein
Yes the line used to run to Orbost and now runs to Bairnsdale. Orbost is the historical name which this article should use. Again, "V/Line Stations & Stops...", this is for Gippsland V/Line rail service
I think given that the V/line itself calls it Gippsland, and as noted we already have a South Gippsland railway line, it seems reasonable to me to use that title. There doesn't seem to be a firm common name one way or the other.
— Amakuru
Again, "V/line itself calls it Gippsland...", this is for Gippsland V/Line rail service
The previous comments re "V/Line rail services" have no bearing on the name of the physical railway track which this article is about. ThylacineHunter ( talk) 04:16, 11 July 2023 (UTC)
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On 11 July 2023, it was proposed that this article be moved to Orbost railway line. The result of the discussion was not moved. |
There is a move discussion in progress on Talk:Ballarat to Daylesford railway line, Victoria which affects this page. Please participate on that page and not in this talk page section. Thank you. — RM bot 07:01, 17 November 2010 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: Moved. ( non-admin closure) samee converse 21:54, 20 March 2019 (UTC)
References
Today the article has been subject of some copy and paste moves that were not made in compliance with the moving a page process. Editors can’t just copy and paste text from other to the other. In light of the consensus reached in the section above, the only way the article will be able to be moved is by way of a consensus being reached at a new requested move. Bagufleat ( talk) 03:43, 11 July 2023 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: not moved. ( closed by non-admin page mover) EggRoll97 ( talk) 08:05, 18 July 2023 (UTC)
Gippsland railway line →
Orbost railway line – As per
Wikipedia:WikiProject Australian Transport/Naming convention and guidelines#Naming - lines, the correct name should be "Orbost railway line" as that is the official name used by the then operator
Victorian Railways. This would also require the current
Orbost railway line to be swapped with this page.
As was pointed out in the previous naming request "rail line used to run to Orbost", if we use this as a precedent changing article name to only reflect stations that are open, how do we go about naming closed lines?
There appears to also be a bit of confusion between "Gippsland (Bairnsdale) V/Line service" and "Gippsland (Orbost) railway line".
In response to the last naming request:
Orbost railway line → Gippsland railway line – I request that 'Orbost railway line' be moved to 'Gippsland railway line' since the former term is archaic, given the fact that Orbost station is no longer operational. Since V/Line and PTV themselves use the term 'Gippsland line' to jointly refer to the Traralgon and Bairnsdale lines, it would make sense that Wikipedia reflects this terminology in order to clearly convey such information.
— LeoC12
"... no longer operational" are we to delete all historical references from Wikipedia just because something is no longer around? "Since V/Line and PTV...", this is discussion for Gippsland V/Line rail service not this page.
Move to Bairnsdale railway line. With only a few exceptions like South Gippsland railway line, the articles about Victorian railway lines are in the format "TERMINUS railway line". Breaking that convention is simply confusing. The V/Line rail services are a different matter. ...
— Triptothecottage
"TERMINUS railway line", the terminus is Orbost even if the tracks have been removed or should we also rename the South Gippsland railway line to Cranbourne as the tracks beyond have been removed?
This rail line used to run to Orbost. It now runs to Bairnsdale with a coach line to Orbost. "Orbost" is now the historical name for the railway line. As per V/Line Stations & Stops "Gippsland" is the current name for the truncated line.
— Danielklein
Yes the line used to run to Orbost and now runs to Bairnsdale. Orbost is the historical name which this article should use. Again, "V/Line Stations & Stops...", this is for Gippsland V/Line rail service
I think given that the V/line itself calls it Gippsland, and as noted we already have a South Gippsland railway line, it seems reasonable to me to use that title. There doesn't seem to be a firm common name one way or the other.
— Amakuru
Again, "V/line itself calls it Gippsland...", this is for Gippsland V/Line rail service
The previous comments re "V/Line rail services" have no bearing on the name of the physical railway track which this article is about. ThylacineHunter ( talk) 04:16, 11 July 2023 (UTC)