It should be noted that Ichimaru Gin does indeed use exrteme or heavy Sarcasm. The author and the artist also admitted to the fact that he makes his chracter tall and thin. Kenpachi's mentioning of Ichimaru and Tosen being fearful of death was only an assumption and not a fact. Please do not put your opinions.
Gin's eyes are not red in the manga, so I took out any references to his (anime-only) red eyes. They are shown to be a blue-ish tint on the cover of volume 20 of the manga (pics used under fair use, blah blah blah): http://img432.imageshack.us/img432/3409/gin13br.jpg http://img362.imageshack.us/img362/9310/gin22wb.jpg [anonymous edit]
This is a major edit: rewrote the entire article adding a lot of extra detail/information, correcting problems, et cetera while trying to preserve existing information. Seems someone did an edit while I was doing mine; specifically they added that paragraph in the character outline with Kenpachi's mention so I preserved that and a change to the word "extreme" to "occassionally" in regard to Gin's sarcasm. Re-added the eyecolor thing mentioning both the anime and manga. I haven't really read the manga so correct the data as necessary. JustSomeGuy 12:40, 25 April 2006 (UTC)
P.S. Also, try not to link to articles which shouldn't even exist because they aren't notable enough - e.g. sōkyoku and Jidanbō. -- Ynhockey ( Talk) 13:15, 25 April 2006 (UTC)
This page NEEDS a spoiler alert at the top of the page. Seeing as the very first paragraph saying who he is contains a spoiler. Foryoublue94 ( talk) 06:16, 15 August 2010 (UTC)
This is Gin's full name, Gin is a short form for Ginyote, so shouldn't his true name be listed in the article???
When Gin meets Rukia, who was taken to her execution, he tells her that she should adress him as such.. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 85.145.149.85 ( talk • contribs).
Oh I see, I'll change it back then...so the anime just made that name up?? Weird...ah well..
I've never heard that before so i think it should still be in there with a episode reference. Just like add that his name in the Anime is Ginyote Ichimaru while its just Gin Ichimaru in the manga. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.230.177.97 ( talk) 22:24, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
I checked the japanese manga, he says "Gin yanoute Ichi-Maru-Tai-Chou." In english; It's not Gin, it's Captain Ichimaru. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 204.248.120.95 ( talk) 18:47, 20 January 2008 (UTC)
While his final release hasn't been seen in the actual series, various Bleach console games (such as Bleach DS) have depicted it. Gin fires Shinsō into the sky, causing swords similar to Shinsō's unreleased state to rain all around him.
Can this be considered as canon?? Had Tite Kubo anything to do with this?? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 85.145.149.85 ( talk) 06:17, 5 March 2007 (UTC).
This is certainly interesting. Yarisazame, is this the supposed Bankai name, or just the attack name? StardustDragon 03:33, 9 May 2008 (UTC)
In the subs I've seen, Gin is traslated with a distinct southern US feel to his dialogue. I've always wondered what it was about his manner of speech that caused this. I read here in the article that he speaks with a strong Kyoto dialect. Can I assume that this dialect has some of the same (if misplaced) connotations/stereotypes that a US southern accent does? (ie uneducated) Cobratom 04:18, 22 September 2007 (UTC)
-mn- 26th April.2010
I see no problem in mentioning the point of Kenpachi calling Gin a coward, but to say that he is correct in his identification is pushing one's opinion. Other than what Kenpachi stated, we have nothing to back it up. The article can get the point across just fine without the word "correctly". The fact that there is disagreement among the issue shows that it is opinion. It is not a fact that can be soundly stated like "Ichigo is Isshin's son" or "Gin knew Matsumoto as a child". Saying Kenpachi said it is one thing, but saying he was correct in his assumptions is pure conjecture. Talchum ( talk) 05:52, 25 November 2007 (UTC)
It says that he became captain of the 3rd division around the time Byakuya became captain of the 6th. Where does it say that? Is this just a guess cause of the way they talk? or some extra fact added by the author during an interview? Also, when in the anime/manga does it say that he talked to Rukia causing her to fear him? A lot of the other soul reapers didn't seem to like him very much anyways and i'm pretty sure that includes Rukia. I think there was only one time that they directly talked in the past so it seems like someone just added that in based off of a guess. Those two things need a reference cause I don't think I've ever read it in the manga or the anime. Alexyasha ( talk) 04:34 PM January 1st —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.230.177.97 ( talk) 22:36, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
The following sites have been checked for possibly copyvio in regards to this article, and all of the sites in question are NEWER than wikipedia, so no copyvio exists:
AliveFreeHappy ( talk) 00:41, 11 January 2008 (UTC)
What does Ichimaru mean, I know Gin means 'silver' but what does 'Ichimaru' mean? Uzumaki Dude ( talk) 22:16, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
Ichi = One, Maru = ring, or common male name suffix and often translated as "man", so...
"One Ring" or "One Man." The similar "Ishimaru" would refer to "fast person", for what it's worth. StardustDragon 03:35, 9 May 2008 (UTC)
sooo, 'ichimaru" can mean "one ring"? Now i just wanna see a Lord of the Rings joke made. ShinXanatos ( talk) 05:59, 21 April 2017 (UTC)
I was just wondering, is it truly, truly necessary for this article to provide an image of Gin's open eyes? I mean, it's great, and it has no copyright vio's, but I'm not sure if it's notable/illustrating a major aspect of the article. Feel free to prove me wrong. IceUnshattered ( talk) 23:05, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
In regards to the eyes, is it worth noting or showing that Ichimaru Gin has fully opened his eyes on page 19 of Manga chapter 399? -- Pstanton ( talk) 05:02, 15 April 2010 (UTC)
Is an article on Gin ichimaru really necessary? the article is too short and its only for the sake of fans. This really isn't necessary. i suggest you just delete this, or merge it with the "list of soul reapers in bleach" the same thing with all other soul reaper characters that have a separate article but too little information. the article is far too short to be an independent article. Also gin ichimaru isn't on of the main antagonist or protagonist. He has the least influence on the series, though he did help out aizen in his plan, he did not to very much after that. To be honest if you see this in a more professional view, you will see that its more of an article for the sake of fans. Haseo445 ( talk) 16:26, 11 March 2009 (UTC)
But you can do that to any other character. you could look up like hundreds of stuff tite kubo said about ulquiorra. outside sources are everywhere. besides it wasnt really the point.
just because there's sources out there doesn't mean we should use every source we can get. This sounds to much like its dedicated to fans. He doesnt really deserves a main article. He has the least action in bleach. We dont state everything we can possibly find, so why do it with this character? we can state how many popularity polls momo has won or the ones soi fon has, we can also add a whole mess of other stuff that he was involved with. see how many things you can find with just one minor character? be honest here, is this article really necessary? Haseo445 ( talk) 17:15, 12 March 2009 (UTC)
But that information is very trivial, most of this information is something anyone can have....the reception is 'ok' but it's not enough to say he deserves his own article. Also the mentioning of the hair color change is really trivial, many animes have portrayed silver hair with a tint of purple, it's not that they change it but to give it more of an effect. And as for Gin ichimaru, he hardly has air time at all. Bread Ninja ( talk) 18:44, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
This article is obviously for the fans. Tosen has more of a story than him and he has out of universe info. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.3.169.44 ( talk) 05:10, 1 September 2009 (UTC) Agreed. This is really problematic. Some of this stuff has no sources. I don't know how Gin ichimaru appears in other media. This article is really pathetic, the only thing supporting it is the Reception, everything else is trivial, and the only reception he has is from IGN, IGN had made many criticism over many characters in bleach that dont have there own article. It's really quite pathetic. Bread Ninja ( talk) 15:32, 2 September 2009 (UTC)
So what is stopping this from being a candidate for deletion? 94.170.94.249 ( talk) 01:00, 21 February 2010 (UTC)
Can someone please delete this article or vouch for deletion of it? I'm not sure how to do it 173.183.13.73 ( talk) 09:21, 31 March 2010 (UTC)
Actually, Tosen does have enough reception to have his own page. It's just that none of you guys even bothered to make one for him. STFX1046190 ( talk) 04:23, 27 August 2011 (UTC)
other media will be removed. other than the fact that the info is really trivial seeing as the other media is still part of the bleach series, there is also no sources or citations. So i removed it. Most of these dont have any references you all better get something.... Bread Ninja ( talk) 15:42, 3 September 2009 (UTC)
Doesn't Gin qualify for the List of fictional spies, since he was technically a double agent? The only reason he betrayed Soul Society was to kill Aizen. 207.216.206.244 ( talk) 17:09, 6 August 2010 (UTC)
Uh, is it even confirmed that he's a "good" guy yet? Sure, he betrayed Aizen, but that doesn't make him good. He could still be an enemy to Soul Society. Seems like speculation, imo. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.181.20.88 ( talk) 00:34, 10 August 2010 (UTC)
"An interesting, though little-known fact, is that during the initial character design stages, producers and Kubo himself, believed the only choice for the role of Gin's voice actor would go to singer and ex-Genesis member Phil Collins. Collins was not known for his animation voice-over work, least of all in the field of anime, but the crew were determined that he was the ideal candidate. Unfortunately, Collins turned down the opportunity however it is rumoured that the track "Don't Get Me Started" from Collins' 2002 album "Testify" is a mournful, yet resentful, assessment of his decision and presumably his regret at having not agreed to the producer's early requests"
This should be deleted. Not only is it ridiculous, but it is un-cited and a quick google search finds absolutely nothing to support this. ( 75.181.20.88 ( talk) 21:17, 15 August 2012 (UTC))
It should be noted that Ichimaru Gin does indeed use exrteme or heavy Sarcasm. The author and the artist also admitted to the fact that he makes his chracter tall and thin. Kenpachi's mentioning of Ichimaru and Tosen being fearful of death was only an assumption and not a fact. Please do not put your opinions.
Gin's eyes are not red in the manga, so I took out any references to his (anime-only) red eyes. They are shown to be a blue-ish tint on the cover of volume 20 of the manga (pics used under fair use, blah blah blah): http://img432.imageshack.us/img432/3409/gin13br.jpg http://img362.imageshack.us/img362/9310/gin22wb.jpg [anonymous edit]
This is a major edit: rewrote the entire article adding a lot of extra detail/information, correcting problems, et cetera while trying to preserve existing information. Seems someone did an edit while I was doing mine; specifically they added that paragraph in the character outline with Kenpachi's mention so I preserved that and a change to the word "extreme" to "occassionally" in regard to Gin's sarcasm. Re-added the eyecolor thing mentioning both the anime and manga. I haven't really read the manga so correct the data as necessary. JustSomeGuy 12:40, 25 April 2006 (UTC)
P.S. Also, try not to link to articles which shouldn't even exist because they aren't notable enough - e.g. sōkyoku and Jidanbō. -- Ynhockey ( Talk) 13:15, 25 April 2006 (UTC)
This page NEEDS a spoiler alert at the top of the page. Seeing as the very first paragraph saying who he is contains a spoiler. Foryoublue94 ( talk) 06:16, 15 August 2010 (UTC)
This is Gin's full name, Gin is a short form for Ginyote, so shouldn't his true name be listed in the article???
When Gin meets Rukia, who was taken to her execution, he tells her that she should adress him as such.. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 85.145.149.85 ( talk • contribs).
Oh I see, I'll change it back then...so the anime just made that name up?? Weird...ah well..
I've never heard that before so i think it should still be in there with a episode reference. Just like add that his name in the Anime is Ginyote Ichimaru while its just Gin Ichimaru in the manga. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.230.177.97 ( talk) 22:24, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
I checked the japanese manga, he says "Gin yanoute Ichi-Maru-Tai-Chou." In english; It's not Gin, it's Captain Ichimaru. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 204.248.120.95 ( talk) 18:47, 20 January 2008 (UTC)
While his final release hasn't been seen in the actual series, various Bleach console games (such as Bleach DS) have depicted it. Gin fires Shinsō into the sky, causing swords similar to Shinsō's unreleased state to rain all around him.
Can this be considered as canon?? Had Tite Kubo anything to do with this?? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 85.145.149.85 ( talk) 06:17, 5 March 2007 (UTC).
This is certainly interesting. Yarisazame, is this the supposed Bankai name, or just the attack name? StardustDragon 03:33, 9 May 2008 (UTC)
In the subs I've seen, Gin is traslated with a distinct southern US feel to his dialogue. I've always wondered what it was about his manner of speech that caused this. I read here in the article that he speaks with a strong Kyoto dialect. Can I assume that this dialect has some of the same (if misplaced) connotations/stereotypes that a US southern accent does? (ie uneducated) Cobratom 04:18, 22 September 2007 (UTC)
-mn- 26th April.2010
I see no problem in mentioning the point of Kenpachi calling Gin a coward, but to say that he is correct in his identification is pushing one's opinion. Other than what Kenpachi stated, we have nothing to back it up. The article can get the point across just fine without the word "correctly". The fact that there is disagreement among the issue shows that it is opinion. It is not a fact that can be soundly stated like "Ichigo is Isshin's son" or "Gin knew Matsumoto as a child". Saying Kenpachi said it is one thing, but saying he was correct in his assumptions is pure conjecture. Talchum ( talk) 05:52, 25 November 2007 (UTC)
It says that he became captain of the 3rd division around the time Byakuya became captain of the 6th. Where does it say that? Is this just a guess cause of the way they talk? or some extra fact added by the author during an interview? Also, when in the anime/manga does it say that he talked to Rukia causing her to fear him? A lot of the other soul reapers didn't seem to like him very much anyways and i'm pretty sure that includes Rukia. I think there was only one time that they directly talked in the past so it seems like someone just added that in based off of a guess. Those two things need a reference cause I don't think I've ever read it in the manga or the anime. Alexyasha ( talk) 04:34 PM January 1st —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.230.177.97 ( talk) 22:36, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
The following sites have been checked for possibly copyvio in regards to this article, and all of the sites in question are NEWER than wikipedia, so no copyvio exists:
AliveFreeHappy ( talk) 00:41, 11 January 2008 (UTC)
What does Ichimaru mean, I know Gin means 'silver' but what does 'Ichimaru' mean? Uzumaki Dude ( talk) 22:16, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
Ichi = One, Maru = ring, or common male name suffix and often translated as "man", so...
"One Ring" or "One Man." The similar "Ishimaru" would refer to "fast person", for what it's worth. StardustDragon 03:35, 9 May 2008 (UTC)
sooo, 'ichimaru" can mean "one ring"? Now i just wanna see a Lord of the Rings joke made. ShinXanatos ( talk) 05:59, 21 April 2017 (UTC)
I was just wondering, is it truly, truly necessary for this article to provide an image of Gin's open eyes? I mean, it's great, and it has no copyright vio's, but I'm not sure if it's notable/illustrating a major aspect of the article. Feel free to prove me wrong. IceUnshattered ( talk) 23:05, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
In regards to the eyes, is it worth noting or showing that Ichimaru Gin has fully opened his eyes on page 19 of Manga chapter 399? -- Pstanton ( talk) 05:02, 15 April 2010 (UTC)
Is an article on Gin ichimaru really necessary? the article is too short and its only for the sake of fans. This really isn't necessary. i suggest you just delete this, or merge it with the "list of soul reapers in bleach" the same thing with all other soul reaper characters that have a separate article but too little information. the article is far too short to be an independent article. Also gin ichimaru isn't on of the main antagonist or protagonist. He has the least influence on the series, though he did help out aizen in his plan, he did not to very much after that. To be honest if you see this in a more professional view, you will see that its more of an article for the sake of fans. Haseo445 ( talk) 16:26, 11 March 2009 (UTC)
But you can do that to any other character. you could look up like hundreds of stuff tite kubo said about ulquiorra. outside sources are everywhere. besides it wasnt really the point.
just because there's sources out there doesn't mean we should use every source we can get. This sounds to much like its dedicated to fans. He doesnt really deserves a main article. He has the least action in bleach. We dont state everything we can possibly find, so why do it with this character? we can state how many popularity polls momo has won or the ones soi fon has, we can also add a whole mess of other stuff that he was involved with. see how many things you can find with just one minor character? be honest here, is this article really necessary? Haseo445 ( talk) 17:15, 12 March 2009 (UTC)
But that information is very trivial, most of this information is something anyone can have....the reception is 'ok' but it's not enough to say he deserves his own article. Also the mentioning of the hair color change is really trivial, many animes have portrayed silver hair with a tint of purple, it's not that they change it but to give it more of an effect. And as for Gin ichimaru, he hardly has air time at all. Bread Ninja ( talk) 18:44, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
This article is obviously for the fans. Tosen has more of a story than him and he has out of universe info. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.3.169.44 ( talk) 05:10, 1 September 2009 (UTC) Agreed. This is really problematic. Some of this stuff has no sources. I don't know how Gin ichimaru appears in other media. This article is really pathetic, the only thing supporting it is the Reception, everything else is trivial, and the only reception he has is from IGN, IGN had made many criticism over many characters in bleach that dont have there own article. It's really quite pathetic. Bread Ninja ( talk) 15:32, 2 September 2009 (UTC)
So what is stopping this from being a candidate for deletion? 94.170.94.249 ( talk) 01:00, 21 February 2010 (UTC)
Can someone please delete this article or vouch for deletion of it? I'm not sure how to do it 173.183.13.73 ( talk) 09:21, 31 March 2010 (UTC)
Actually, Tosen does have enough reception to have his own page. It's just that none of you guys even bothered to make one for him. STFX1046190 ( talk) 04:23, 27 August 2011 (UTC)
other media will be removed. other than the fact that the info is really trivial seeing as the other media is still part of the bleach series, there is also no sources or citations. So i removed it. Most of these dont have any references you all better get something.... Bread Ninja ( talk) 15:42, 3 September 2009 (UTC)
Doesn't Gin qualify for the List of fictional spies, since he was technically a double agent? The only reason he betrayed Soul Society was to kill Aizen. 207.216.206.244 ( talk) 17:09, 6 August 2010 (UTC)
Uh, is it even confirmed that he's a "good" guy yet? Sure, he betrayed Aizen, but that doesn't make him good. He could still be an enemy to Soul Society. Seems like speculation, imo. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.181.20.88 ( talk) 00:34, 10 August 2010 (UTC)
"An interesting, though little-known fact, is that during the initial character design stages, producers and Kubo himself, believed the only choice for the role of Gin's voice actor would go to singer and ex-Genesis member Phil Collins. Collins was not known for his animation voice-over work, least of all in the field of anime, but the crew were determined that he was the ideal candidate. Unfortunately, Collins turned down the opportunity however it is rumoured that the track "Don't Get Me Started" from Collins' 2002 album "Testify" is a mournful, yet resentful, assessment of his decision and presumably his regret at having not agreed to the producer's early requests"
This should be deleted. Not only is it ridiculous, but it is un-cited and a quick google search finds absolutely nothing to support this. ( 75.181.20.88 ( talk) 21:17, 15 August 2012 (UTC))