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I removed this section because it had been marked as unreferenced for over a year. It looked like original research to me. -- HGK745 ( talk) 23:36, 4 September 2014 (UTC)
I remember learning the silent version in the 70s, at the same time I heard about the "fish" version. Lisapaloma ( talk) 18:15, 31 March 2016 (UTC)
"However, linguists have pointed out that the location of the letters in the constructed word is inconsistent with how those letters would be pronounced in those placements" - no shit, Sherlocks. -- 07:09, 21 August 2016 83.23.137.238
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// To illustrate: gh can only resemble f when following the letters ou / au at the end of certain morphemes ("cough", "laugh")// I think, it is incorrect. For example in the word thorough, 'gh' is 'following' 'ou' but does not have 'f' sound. Nor in through, where again 'gh' is following 'ou'. I suggest that either it is removed or suitably modified. -- செல்வா ( talk) 20:28, 4 July 2018 (UTC)
Anyway, it's actually the trigraph "ugh" which can sometimes be pronounced with an [f] pronunciation -- not the digraph "gh"... AnonMoos ( talk) 01:42, 30 July 2018 (UTC)
Under "Explanation", the article says "while ti would only resemble sh when followed by a vowel sound ("mention", "martian", "patient", "spatial")".
However, when properly enunciated, "mention" has a ch sound, not a sh sound. I believe (though I could be wrong) that the general rule might be that ti will resemble sh when followed by a vowel, unless it's preceded by a plosive consonant, in which case it will resemble ch.
For example, "mention", "action", and "option" all use the ch sound, while the aforementioned "martian" uses the sh sound, because the R is not plosive.
As always, there are no 100% rules in English, because then we come to a word like "bastion", which has the ch sound, even though the S is not plosive. But I'm sure someone can figure it out better than I could. -- 70.27.113.90 ( talk) 19:59, 23 October 2019 (UTC)
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I removed this section because it had been marked as unreferenced for over a year. It looked like original research to me. -- HGK745 ( talk) 23:36, 4 September 2014 (UTC)
I remember learning the silent version in the 70s, at the same time I heard about the "fish" version. Lisapaloma ( talk) 18:15, 31 March 2016 (UTC)
"However, linguists have pointed out that the location of the letters in the constructed word is inconsistent with how those letters would be pronounced in those placements" - no shit, Sherlocks. -- 07:09, 21 August 2016 83.23.137.238
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// To illustrate: gh can only resemble f when following the letters ou / au at the end of certain morphemes ("cough", "laugh")// I think, it is incorrect. For example in the word thorough, 'gh' is 'following' 'ou' but does not have 'f' sound. Nor in through, where again 'gh' is following 'ou'. I suggest that either it is removed or suitably modified. -- செல்வா ( talk) 20:28, 4 July 2018 (UTC)
Anyway, it's actually the trigraph "ugh" which can sometimes be pronounced with an [f] pronunciation -- not the digraph "gh"... AnonMoos ( talk) 01:42, 30 July 2018 (UTC)
Under "Explanation", the article says "while ti would only resemble sh when followed by a vowel sound ("mention", "martian", "patient", "spatial")".
However, when properly enunciated, "mention" has a ch sound, not a sh sound. I believe (though I could be wrong) that the general rule might be that ti will resemble sh when followed by a vowel, unless it's preceded by a plosive consonant, in which case it will resemble ch.
For example, "mention", "action", and "option" all use the ch sound, while the aforementioned "martian" uses the sh sound, because the R is not plosive.
As always, there are no 100% rules in English, because then we come to a word like "bastion", which has the ch sound, even though the S is not plosive. But I'm sure someone can figure it out better than I could. -- 70.27.113.90 ( talk) 19:59, 23 October 2019 (UTC)