There is little logic to the text, and the logical sequence was missing, which makes the material almost useless to a reader who doesn't have the patience to re-read and organise the information by himself. Much more care and effort are needed in understanding the sources, and in reproducing their content in a logical and concise manner. That's concerning the user. For the editor who wants to pick it up from here, there is also a huge amount of oversourcing for a minimal amount of useful information.
Archaeology section:
It's complete nonsense. C8-9, 12-14, 15-16 cover the Early Muslim, Crusader/Ayyubid, Mamluk, and Earli(est) Ottoman periods, but no Bronze Age and Byzantine period. The Islamic Golden Age is defined on Wiki as C8-14, whereas "late Islamic Period" needs defining, but seems to coincide with the Ottoman period, so C16 or later, till - when? That means: the "hidden" wikilink (Islamic Golden Age) doesn't correspond to its visible content (late Islamic Period). That's called misleading the user. Additionally, C15-16 + 20 are not mentioned in the list of periods. So in the end, the listed centuries and listed periods only overlap in the middle, C8-14 as Islamic Golden Age (but NOT as Late Islamic period); all else doesn't (Early Bronze Age and Byzantine Period on the one side, and C15-16 + 20 on the other - huge time spans!).
Tawahin es-Sukkar sugar cane factory section:
Makes absolutely no sense. A medieval pressing room is some 800 years old, has no 12,000 years of history and cannot help understand the settlement and agricultural patterns over 12 millennia. The archaeological layout and stratigraphy of the site as a whole maybe, but that's not what is says. What is actually meant here? Arminden ( talk) 14:26, 25 November 2021 (UTC)
He's been the main archaeologist for this area, the initiator for the Greek institute in charge, as well as for the local museum - see his LinkedIn page. Also consider articles for:
Arminden ( talk) 05:53, 17 January 2024 (UTC)
The lead is supposed to give a definition of the topic. Here it doesn't.
A ghor is a type of valley. What are we talking about here? 1) A valley? If so, how large? Or 2) a specific archaeological site within that ghor-type valley? Or sometimes (1), sometimes (2)? Also: Is there a modern settlement there (village, town) beyond the museum?
A valley in a valley in a valley? Doesn't make much sense. Ghor is a valley/plain, and wadi is also a valley.
What is depicted on the map under that name is a town, not a "location".
How large is the Ghor as-Safi as a ghor/valley, to understand if one town can cover its entire area, w/o any other settlements standing there? Pls define it geographically: it stretches from... to... What are the surrounding features? Maybe the eastern escarpment of the Jordan Rift Valley (E), the Dead Sea (W), Wadi Hasa or its valley floor (S?), ??? (N), I don't know. And that's the problem: I read the art. and I still don't know :)) Arminden ( talk) 19:10, 10 February 2024 (UTC)
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There is little logic to the text, and the logical sequence was missing, which makes the material almost useless to a reader who doesn't have the patience to re-read and organise the information by himself. Much more care and effort are needed in understanding the sources, and in reproducing their content in a logical and concise manner. That's concerning the user. For the editor who wants to pick it up from here, there is also a huge amount of oversourcing for a minimal amount of useful information.
Archaeology section:
It's complete nonsense. C8-9, 12-14, 15-16 cover the Early Muslim, Crusader/Ayyubid, Mamluk, and Earli(est) Ottoman periods, but no Bronze Age and Byzantine period. The Islamic Golden Age is defined on Wiki as C8-14, whereas "late Islamic Period" needs defining, but seems to coincide with the Ottoman period, so C16 or later, till - when? That means: the "hidden" wikilink (Islamic Golden Age) doesn't correspond to its visible content (late Islamic Period). That's called misleading the user. Additionally, C15-16 + 20 are not mentioned in the list of periods. So in the end, the listed centuries and listed periods only overlap in the middle, C8-14 as Islamic Golden Age (but NOT as Late Islamic period); all else doesn't (Early Bronze Age and Byzantine Period on the one side, and C15-16 + 20 on the other - huge time spans!).
Tawahin es-Sukkar sugar cane factory section:
Makes absolutely no sense. A medieval pressing room is some 800 years old, has no 12,000 years of history and cannot help understand the settlement and agricultural patterns over 12 millennia. The archaeological layout and stratigraphy of the site as a whole maybe, but that's not what is says. What is actually meant here? Arminden ( talk) 14:26, 25 November 2021 (UTC)
He's been the main archaeologist for this area, the initiator for the Greek institute in charge, as well as for the local museum - see his LinkedIn page. Also consider articles for:
Arminden ( talk) 05:53, 17 January 2024 (UTC)
The lead is supposed to give a definition of the topic. Here it doesn't.
A ghor is a type of valley. What are we talking about here? 1) A valley? If so, how large? Or 2) a specific archaeological site within that ghor-type valley? Or sometimes (1), sometimes (2)? Also: Is there a modern settlement there (village, town) beyond the museum?
A valley in a valley in a valley? Doesn't make much sense. Ghor is a valley/plain, and wadi is also a valley.
What is depicted on the map under that name is a town, not a "location".
How large is the Ghor as-Safi as a ghor/valley, to understand if one town can cover its entire area, w/o any other settlements standing there? Pls define it geographically: it stretches from... to... What are the surrounding features? Maybe the eastern escarpment of the Jordan Rift Valley (E), the Dead Sea (W), Wadi Hasa or its valley floor (S?), ??? (N), I don't know. And that's the problem: I read the art. and I still don't know :)) Arminden ( talk) 19:10, 10 February 2024 (UTC)