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Where are these statistics from? Source?
The constitution of 1920 was drafted without Sudeten German representation - but this have simply reason - noone of Sg was fighting for independent czechoslovakia.
How come none of the given sources provide any page references? If you have actually read the works surely you can provide page references for where the provided sources state that:
and
The speed with which you provided the names of the books, but without being able to provide page references, is in my eyes suspicious.-- Stor stark7 Talk 20:53, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
During the expulsion in 1945 about 250.000 Germans were slaughtered by Czech franctireurs (much more than Czechs died during the whole war), most of them woman and children. I think this is worth mentioning in this article.
I am looking für the article Dr. Walter Staffa in the german Wikipedia for informations to the Hodolein-camp near Olomouc (in this time called too Olmütz). Which persons where in the camp? Normal members of the german "Wehrmacht", normal people called "Sudetendeutsche", or members of organisations of Konrad Henlein oder NSDAP-members? Any information is warmly welcomed. Please inform me in the german" Wikipedia, under member "Nup". Thanks!
Nup ( talk) 10:38, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
Please help to let win the truth in this articles. Look the german Wikipedia under "Walter Staffa", "Olomouc", "Deutsches Seminar" and "Sudetendeutsche". Look to my edits and my diffulties. Please contact and/or help me, but under the german "Wikipedia", I am there "Nup" too!
Please help to let win the truth in this articles. Look the german Wikipedia under "Walter Staffa", "Olomouc", "Deutsches Seminar" and "Sudetendeutsche". Look to my edits and my diffulties. Please contact and/or help me, but under the german "Wikipedia", I am there "Nup" too!
http://de.wikipedia.org/?title=Olomouc&diff=39465342&oldid=39462962
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:L%C3%B6schkandidaten/24._November_2007#Walter_Staffa
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walter_Staffa
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olm%C3%BCtz
Thanks in advice for helping
Thanks
Nup ( talk) 10:38, 28 November 2007 (UTC) Please answer and/or act in the german wikipedia!
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BetacommandBot ( talk) 04:56, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
The Norwegian bomber and killer Andres Breivik uses the expulsion of the Germans and especially of the Sudeten Germans (Benes Decrees) as a role model for the expulsion of Muslims from Europe. Every user wants to be informed in a neutral way. This is not often the case in Wikipedia.-- 85.181.150.2 ( talk) 11:11, 29 July 2011 (UTC) Andres Breivik was obviously incited by aggressive and biased information against Sudeten Germans in Wikipedia. German media are investigating.-- 92.228.179.227 ( talk) 11:02, 30 July 2011 (UTC)
The article says that S. Germans lived in Sudeten since 12th century. This is true only for few areas - notably Cheb. 99% of the German immigration occurred during 14th during the mining boom. -- Jirka6 ( talk) 05:07, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
Is there some threshold? There were Germans living in Prague, yet it is not marked. Or is it with more than 50%? What is the source?? -- Jirka6 ( talk) 17:24, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
The German Jewish culture was prevailing for a very long time. Before the expulsion of the Germans one third of the Bohemian population was German. This was about the number of Germans, too, in Prague in 1945.In times before there had been more Germans.-- 92.224.205.203 ( talk) 17:35, 1 August 2010 (UTC)
The link in the introduction called Sudeten Germans links to a redirect to this article, so it is a pointless link (I don't know if it should be removed). 92.11.22.186 ( talk) 06:53, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
A recent edit by User:Mikeo1938 added the following text:
The reference points to the [1] website - it is a website of the Deutschen Böhmerwaldbund e.V (roughly the German Bohemian Forest Club), not really an authoritative source (an maybe biased). Is there a better source for this statement? Whether by German or Czech or other historians? Moreover, not all ethnic Czechs that left moved in after 1919. Many (but not all) areas had a large ethnic Czech population that lived there for centuries, sometimes longer than the ethnic-Germans. -- Jirka6 ( talk) 14:32, 29 July 2009 (UTC)
My addition was prompted, I must confess, by anecdotal evidence acquired this very weekend from a lady who, as a teenager, had been forced to leave South Bohemia in October 1946. She told me that after 1938 she had seen Czechs standing en masse with their belongings at the railway station at Krumau (now Český Krumlov) waiting to be moved out of South Bohemia. A Google search brought up the citation which I provided.
The forced removal of ethnic Germans after WW2 is well known, but this was the first I had heard of any forced departure of Czechs from South Bohemia.
I will continue to search for other evidence and hope that others may also be able to contribute.
M Mikeo1938 ( talk) 20:06, 29 July 2009 (UTC)
After the foundation of the Czechoslovakian Republic after World War 1 the Czech government sent Czechs into the border areas which were largely settled by Germans to force Czech culture and language on the people there. They left the Sudetenland when Hitler invaded it. My hometown in Northern Bohemia had 95Â % German population. In my family nobody spoke Czech-- 92.224.205.203 ( talk) 17:27, 1 August 2010 (UTC)
-- Posp68 ( talk) 08:09, 19 June 2016 (UTC)
There's a ton of content here but a lot of it is duplicated in other articles such as: Sudeten Germans and Carpathian Germans. All three are not required and since this is an odd-ball with 2 articles Frankenstein-ed together this one should go. Terrible title for an article too. -- Hutcher ( talk) 03:51, 2 November 2010 (UTC)
There was obviously a problem with the former article as most parts of it were duplicated on the Sudeten Germans and Sudetenland and German Bohemia pages. But Germans in interwar Czechoslovakia were not only the Sudeten Germans, so there is a need to put at least some basic informations in this reduced article. For instance, more detailed demographics (I mùostly think of cities like e.g. Brno/Brünn), German culture in CS (Kafka and the others), but also the election results table because it concerns the whole of CS, not just the Sudetenland. -- Minorities observer ( talk) 03:10, 13 March 2012 (UTC)
Some unknown contributor on Commons ("Kostěj", also unknown on wikipedia) wrote 3 years ago on the Commons talk page that this map is inaccurate in comparison with another one based on the Czechoslovak census. Nowhere is it stated that the map would come from "Nazi source", moreover the two maps are not substantially different but one is in English, the other one in Czech and this is en.wikipedia, not cz.wikipedia. The map's author is Henry Mühlpfordt ( User:Wimox), no one asked him on which data he made the map. Anyway, the Czech map is inaccurate as, following the ideological bias of the Prague government, it did not distinguish between Czech and Slovak languages and ethnonationalities. -- Minorities observer ( talk) 08:42, 30 November 2013 (UTC)
I wrote a message on the talk page of the initial map's author on Commons:
There is also another linguistic map from 1930, but only for Sudeten Germans, none available for Carpathian Germans. -- Minorities observer ( talk) 08:25, 1 December 2013 (UTC)
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Where are these statistics from? Source?
The constitution of 1920 was drafted without Sudeten German representation - but this have simply reason - noone of Sg was fighting for independent czechoslovakia.
How come none of the given sources provide any page references? If you have actually read the works surely you can provide page references for where the provided sources state that:
and
The speed with which you provided the names of the books, but without being able to provide page references, is in my eyes suspicious.-- Stor stark7 Talk 20:53, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
During the expulsion in 1945 about 250.000 Germans were slaughtered by Czech franctireurs (much more than Czechs died during the whole war), most of them woman and children. I think this is worth mentioning in this article.
I am looking für the article Dr. Walter Staffa in the german Wikipedia for informations to the Hodolein-camp near Olomouc (in this time called too Olmütz). Which persons where in the camp? Normal members of the german "Wehrmacht", normal people called "Sudetendeutsche", or members of organisations of Konrad Henlein oder NSDAP-members? Any information is warmly welcomed. Please inform me in the german" Wikipedia, under member "Nup". Thanks!
Nup ( talk) 10:38, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
Please help to let win the truth in this articles. Look the german Wikipedia under "Walter Staffa", "Olomouc", "Deutsches Seminar" and "Sudetendeutsche". Look to my edits and my diffulties. Please contact and/or help me, but under the german "Wikipedia", I am there "Nup" too!
Please help to let win the truth in this articles. Look the german Wikipedia under "Walter Staffa", "Olomouc", "Deutsches Seminar" and "Sudetendeutsche". Look to my edits and my diffulties. Please contact and/or help me, but under the german "Wikipedia", I am there "Nup" too!
http://de.wikipedia.org/?title=Olomouc&diff=39465342&oldid=39462962
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:L%C3%B6schkandidaten/24._November_2007#Walter_Staffa
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walter_Staffa
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olm%C3%BCtz
Thanks in advice for helping
Thanks
Nup ( talk) 10:38, 28 November 2007 (UTC) Please answer and/or act in the german wikipedia!
Image:Sudetendeutsche kratzau bohemia.JPG is being used on this article. I notice the image page specifies that the image is being used under fair use but there is no explanation or rationale as to why its use in this Wikipedia article constitutes fair use. In addition to the boilerplate fair use template, you must also write out on the image description page a specific explanation or rationale for why using this image in each article is consistent with fair use.
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BetacommandBot ( talk) 04:56, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
The Norwegian bomber and killer Andres Breivik uses the expulsion of the Germans and especially of the Sudeten Germans (Benes Decrees) as a role model for the expulsion of Muslims from Europe. Every user wants to be informed in a neutral way. This is not often the case in Wikipedia.-- 85.181.150.2 ( talk) 11:11, 29 July 2011 (UTC) Andres Breivik was obviously incited by aggressive and biased information against Sudeten Germans in Wikipedia. German media are investigating.-- 92.228.179.227 ( talk) 11:02, 30 July 2011 (UTC)
The article says that S. Germans lived in Sudeten since 12th century. This is true only for few areas - notably Cheb. 99% of the German immigration occurred during 14th during the mining boom. -- Jirka6 ( talk) 05:07, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
Is there some threshold? There were Germans living in Prague, yet it is not marked. Or is it with more than 50%? What is the source?? -- Jirka6 ( talk) 17:24, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
The German Jewish culture was prevailing for a very long time. Before the expulsion of the Germans one third of the Bohemian population was German. This was about the number of Germans, too, in Prague in 1945.In times before there had been more Germans.-- 92.224.205.203 ( talk) 17:35, 1 August 2010 (UTC)
The link in the introduction called Sudeten Germans links to a redirect to this article, so it is a pointless link (I don't know if it should be removed). 92.11.22.186 ( talk) 06:53, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
A recent edit by User:Mikeo1938 added the following text:
The reference points to the [1] website - it is a website of the Deutschen Böhmerwaldbund e.V (roughly the German Bohemian Forest Club), not really an authoritative source (an maybe biased). Is there a better source for this statement? Whether by German or Czech or other historians? Moreover, not all ethnic Czechs that left moved in after 1919. Many (but not all) areas had a large ethnic Czech population that lived there for centuries, sometimes longer than the ethnic-Germans. -- Jirka6 ( talk) 14:32, 29 July 2009 (UTC)
My addition was prompted, I must confess, by anecdotal evidence acquired this very weekend from a lady who, as a teenager, had been forced to leave South Bohemia in October 1946. She told me that after 1938 she had seen Czechs standing en masse with their belongings at the railway station at Krumau (now Český Krumlov) waiting to be moved out of South Bohemia. A Google search brought up the citation which I provided.
The forced removal of ethnic Germans after WW2 is well known, but this was the first I had heard of any forced departure of Czechs from South Bohemia.
I will continue to search for other evidence and hope that others may also be able to contribute.
M Mikeo1938 ( talk) 20:06, 29 July 2009 (UTC)
After the foundation of the Czechoslovakian Republic after World War 1 the Czech government sent Czechs into the border areas which were largely settled by Germans to force Czech culture and language on the people there. They left the Sudetenland when Hitler invaded it. My hometown in Northern Bohemia had 95Â % German population. In my family nobody spoke Czech-- 92.224.205.203 ( talk) 17:27, 1 August 2010 (UTC)
-- Posp68 ( talk) 08:09, 19 June 2016 (UTC)
There's a ton of content here but a lot of it is duplicated in other articles such as: Sudeten Germans and Carpathian Germans. All three are not required and since this is an odd-ball with 2 articles Frankenstein-ed together this one should go. Terrible title for an article too. -- Hutcher ( talk) 03:51, 2 November 2010 (UTC)
There was obviously a problem with the former article as most parts of it were duplicated on the Sudeten Germans and Sudetenland and German Bohemia pages. But Germans in interwar Czechoslovakia were not only the Sudeten Germans, so there is a need to put at least some basic informations in this reduced article. For instance, more detailed demographics (I mùostly think of cities like e.g. Brno/Brünn), German culture in CS (Kafka and the others), but also the election results table because it concerns the whole of CS, not just the Sudetenland. -- Minorities observer ( talk) 03:10, 13 March 2012 (UTC)
Some unknown contributor on Commons ("Kostěj", also unknown on wikipedia) wrote 3 years ago on the Commons talk page that this map is inaccurate in comparison with another one based on the Czechoslovak census. Nowhere is it stated that the map would come from "Nazi source", moreover the two maps are not substantially different but one is in English, the other one in Czech and this is en.wikipedia, not cz.wikipedia. The map's author is Henry Mühlpfordt ( User:Wimox), no one asked him on which data he made the map. Anyway, the Czech map is inaccurate as, following the ideological bias of the Prague government, it did not distinguish between Czech and Slovak languages and ethnonationalities. -- Minorities observer ( talk) 08:42, 30 November 2013 (UTC)
I wrote a message on the talk page of the initial map's author on Commons:
There is also another linguistic map from 1930, but only for Sudeten Germans, none available for Carpathian Germans. -- Minorities observer ( talk) 08:25, 1 December 2013 (UTC)
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