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For the record, sources I hav eon the Norwegian Germanic-SS state that the ranks were not capitlized. Ths SS prefix was considered to be the start of the word. Probably something to do with the Norwegian language but since I dont speak it, I dont know (I'm going by the textbooks). So, the Norway SS ranks are not typos. They are supposed to be lower case, as far as I know. - Husnock 13:55, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
Article reassessed and graded as start class. -- dashiellx ( talk) 17:51, 6 May 2008 (UTC)
While not wanting to change this for the moment I believe that the extra attention giving to swedish volunteers in the SS is a little strange. Having read in several places that only approximatly 180 swedes fought with the germans compared to far more Norwegians or Danes. I think this should be looked into and possibly changed, as at present it paints sweden being very pro nazi. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.188.208.251 ( talk) 09:33, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
Why is the title hyphenated? Shouldn't it be Germanic SS? -- Jan Onbekend ( talk) 07:24, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
On corresponding Wikipedia articles, Waffen-SS is hyphenated, Allgemeine SS is not. Probably should start a discussion somewhere at one of the noticeboards to get consensus. I'm fairly sure also you should be able to find some SS documents scanned on line. - OberRanks ( talk) 17:58, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
Dutch Allgemeine-SS officers in The Hague in June 1940.
According to the caption the picture shows members of the Nederlandsche SS. Alas, the picture was taken before the Dutch SS was formed. In addition to this, the person in the center is identified as Friedrich Wimmer, General Commissioner of the occupied Netherlands, he's Austrian by birth and German by nationality in 1940. The SS-officers around him show the SD-rhombus, so they are unlikely to be Dutch. -- Jan Onbekend ( talk) 17:25, 14 April 2011 (UTC) BTW: The year of formation in the box should be 1940, not 1939.
Archived, discussion moved here for broader discussion. - OberRanks ( talk) 18:54, 18 April 2011 (UTC)
No consensus to move. Vegaswikian ( talk) 19:44, 3 May 2011 (UTC)
Germanic-SS → Germanic SS – Relisted. Vegaswikian ( talk) 18:25, 26 April 2011 (UTC)
The common name of the organization seems to be Germanic SS rather than Germanic-SS. Cf. TM-E 30-451 Handbook on German Military Forces [3]; Nuremberg Trial Proceedings Volume 4. TWENTY-THIRD DAY, Wednesday, 19 December 1945, Morning Session p.171 [4] (see also [5]); George H. Stein, The Waffen-SS, p.148 [6]; Germany and the Second World War: Organization and mobilization of the German sphere of power. Wartime administration, economy, and manpower resources 1942-1944/5, Bernhard R. Kroener, Rolf-Dieter Müller, Hans Umbreit (eds.); translated by Derry Cook-Radmore ... [et al.] ; vol. V,Part 1 Militärgeschichtliches Forschungsamt/Oxford University Press, 2003, ISBN 0198208731, p.122 [7]; E. K. Bramstedt: Dictatorship and political police: the technique of control by fear, Routledge, 2003, ISBN 0415175429, p. 93 [8]; Christopher Ailsby: Hitler's renegades: foreign nationals in the service of the Third Reich, Spellmount, 2004, pp.39,72 [9]. However, some editors consider Robin Lumsden [10], [11] and Chris McNab more authorative. NB: Hugh Page Taylor: Uniforms of the SS, Vol 2: Germanische-SS 1940-1945, Windrow & Greene, 1991, ISBN 1872004954 [12] uses the hyphenated version on the cover, but the non-hyphenated version throughout the text. -- Jan Onbekend ( talk) 12:22, 19 April 2011 (UTC)
Preserving here by providing this link. My rationale was: unsourced WP:OR; WP:NOTMANUAL; c/e for concision & npov; c/e lead for notability. -- K.e.coffman ( talk) 08:00, 9 September 2018 (UTC)
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For the record, sources I hav eon the Norwegian Germanic-SS state that the ranks were not capitlized. Ths SS prefix was considered to be the start of the word. Probably something to do with the Norwegian language but since I dont speak it, I dont know (I'm going by the textbooks). So, the Norway SS ranks are not typos. They are supposed to be lower case, as far as I know. - Husnock 13:55, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
Article reassessed and graded as start class. -- dashiellx ( talk) 17:51, 6 May 2008 (UTC)
While not wanting to change this for the moment I believe that the extra attention giving to swedish volunteers in the SS is a little strange. Having read in several places that only approximatly 180 swedes fought with the germans compared to far more Norwegians or Danes. I think this should be looked into and possibly changed, as at present it paints sweden being very pro nazi. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.188.208.251 ( talk) 09:33, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
Why is the title hyphenated? Shouldn't it be Germanic SS? -- Jan Onbekend ( talk) 07:24, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
On corresponding Wikipedia articles, Waffen-SS is hyphenated, Allgemeine SS is not. Probably should start a discussion somewhere at one of the noticeboards to get consensus. I'm fairly sure also you should be able to find some SS documents scanned on line. - OberRanks ( talk) 17:58, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
Dutch Allgemeine-SS officers in The Hague in June 1940.
According to the caption the picture shows members of the Nederlandsche SS. Alas, the picture was taken before the Dutch SS was formed. In addition to this, the person in the center is identified as Friedrich Wimmer, General Commissioner of the occupied Netherlands, he's Austrian by birth and German by nationality in 1940. The SS-officers around him show the SD-rhombus, so they are unlikely to be Dutch. -- Jan Onbekend ( talk) 17:25, 14 April 2011 (UTC) BTW: The year of formation in the box should be 1940, not 1939.
Archived, discussion moved here for broader discussion. - OberRanks ( talk) 18:54, 18 April 2011 (UTC)
No consensus to move. Vegaswikian ( talk) 19:44, 3 May 2011 (UTC)
Germanic-SS → Germanic SS – Relisted. Vegaswikian ( talk) 18:25, 26 April 2011 (UTC)
The common name of the organization seems to be Germanic SS rather than Germanic-SS. Cf. TM-E 30-451 Handbook on German Military Forces [3]; Nuremberg Trial Proceedings Volume 4. TWENTY-THIRD DAY, Wednesday, 19 December 1945, Morning Session p.171 [4] (see also [5]); George H. Stein, The Waffen-SS, p.148 [6]; Germany and the Second World War: Organization and mobilization of the German sphere of power. Wartime administration, economy, and manpower resources 1942-1944/5, Bernhard R. Kroener, Rolf-Dieter Müller, Hans Umbreit (eds.); translated by Derry Cook-Radmore ... [et al.] ; vol. V,Part 1 Militärgeschichtliches Forschungsamt/Oxford University Press, 2003, ISBN 0198208731, p.122 [7]; E. K. Bramstedt: Dictatorship and political police: the technique of control by fear, Routledge, 2003, ISBN 0415175429, p. 93 [8]; Christopher Ailsby: Hitler's renegades: foreign nationals in the service of the Third Reich, Spellmount, 2004, pp.39,72 [9]. However, some editors consider Robin Lumsden [10], [11] and Chris McNab more authorative. NB: Hugh Page Taylor: Uniforms of the SS, Vol 2: Germanische-SS 1940-1945, Windrow & Greene, 1991, ISBN 1872004954 [12] uses the hyphenated version on the cover, but the non-hyphenated version throughout the text. -- Jan Onbekend ( talk) 12:22, 19 April 2011 (UTC)
Preserving here by providing this link. My rationale was: unsourced WP:OR; WP:NOTMANUAL; c/e for concision & npov; c/e lead for notability. -- K.e.coffman ( talk) 08:00, 9 September 2018 (UTC)