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Is there a typo here? George H.W. Bush was not elected president until 1988.
So, according to this article Germany-American Day uses the founding date of Germantown, Pennsylvania "the first German settlement in the original thirteen American colonies". Looing at the Germantown, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania itself it says "Although the town's name indicates otherwise, Germantown was founded not by Germans, but by Dutch settlers[1], augmented with a much smaller number of people from present-day Germany, in 1681.". Ok, now I'm utterly confused. Looking at the history, it seems User:Rex Germanus contributed the majority of information change from "German settlers" to "Dutch settlers" but as I'm not familiar to the topic I can't comment on the reliability of his sources. In any case, it would probably be useful if someone could double-check the information given. Charon X/ talk 02:51, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
I would add: these families were of Dutch extraction, and were Mennonites who became Quakers. They left Holland partly for religious reasons (believe it or not)and subsequently left Germany for the same reason. Quakers had problems wherever they were, which is why Penn wanted to found his colony and gather them all in. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pibolata ( talk • contribs) 14:04, 15 September 2011 (UTC)
"...the President called on Americans to observe the Day with appropriate ceremonies and activities such as mass parades, pogroms, the creation of comically evil secret polices and a rigid system of total conformity."
This sounds like a Reagan-joke, but is there proof? Regards, Tasmer ( talk) 13:17, 6 October 2015 (UTC)
Why are we making a point of noting that Trump proclaimed the date to be German-American Day? By doing so, we imply that between 1987 and 2017, no other president did it. Is that the case? If so, then that should be clearly stated. But if every president has made the proclamation, then there's nothing special about Trump's having done so and it doesn't need to be specifically highlighted. — howcheng { chat} 20:22, 4 October 2018 (UTC)
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Is being used to argue that there is "some debate" over the name of Germantown.
Debate according to whom, Dutch nationalists? Americans who try to frame things in borders that didn't actually exist in 1680? According to a source with a point of view that is ignoring every known fact? How about the fact that the settlers would have seen themselves as Deitsch, which is neither Deutsch nor Dutch, or the fact that the dialect they would have spoke spread from across these imaginary Dutch Deutsch borders which did not even exist in 1680? Or how about the fact that the Dutch population was up to 60% immigrant from the surrounding regions and "German" hinterland in the first place, and that the settlers in Pennsylvania had first lived in the Netherlands, then located to "Germany" and only then relocated to the United States? This article is pure misinformation and garbage, pot stirring for no reason. Who is questioning this name "Germantown" other than some Dutch-sounding writer who nobody has ever heard of? Why does this have such weight in an article, especially when it appears to be added by a user who has been banned? "Nevertheless" named - as in they ignored this fact and the town took the name anyway? What a bunch of goofy POV-pushing nonsense. But go ahead, revert me. I have better things to do than fix this terrible article on the anniversary of German-American Day, anyway. Glad to know truth about a town's name is whatever some Dutch linguist decides it is.
the founding of Germantown on October 6, 1683, was to provide the date for German-American Day, citation needed though many of the first thirteen Quaker and Mennonite families in Germantown came from the Netherlands rather than from Germany; until 1710, according to linguist Nicoline van der Sijs, "Germantown remained predominantly Dutch". [1] [2] The town was nevertheless named Germantown, as the direct vicinity of the settlement was inhabited by fifty-four German families who had accompanied Johan Printz to the Swedish settlement on the Delaware several years earlier and had resettled themselves.
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So, according to this article Germany-American Day uses the founding date of Germantown, Pennsylvania "the first German settlement in the original thirteen American colonies". Looing at the Germantown, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania itself it says "Although the town's name indicates otherwise, Germantown was founded not by Germans, but by Dutch settlers[1], augmented with a much smaller number of people from present-day Germany, in 1681.". Ok, now I'm utterly confused. Looking at the history, it seems User:Rex Germanus contributed the majority of information change from "German settlers" to "Dutch settlers" but as I'm not familiar to the topic I can't comment on the reliability of his sources. In any case, it would probably be useful if someone could double-check the information given. Charon X/ talk 02:51, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
I would add: these families were of Dutch extraction, and were Mennonites who became Quakers. They left Holland partly for religious reasons (believe it or not)and subsequently left Germany for the same reason. Quakers had problems wherever they were, which is why Penn wanted to found his colony and gather them all in. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pibolata ( talk • contribs) 14:04, 15 September 2011 (UTC)
"...the President called on Americans to observe the Day with appropriate ceremonies and activities such as mass parades, pogroms, the creation of comically evil secret polices and a rigid system of total conformity."
This sounds like a Reagan-joke, but is there proof? Regards, Tasmer ( talk) 13:17, 6 October 2015 (UTC)
Why are we making a point of noting that Trump proclaimed the date to be German-American Day? By doing so, we imply that between 1987 and 2017, no other president did it. Is that the case? If so, then that should be clearly stated. But if every president has made the proclamation, then there's nothing special about Trump's having done so and it doesn't need to be specifically highlighted. — howcheng { chat} 20:22, 4 October 2018 (UTC)
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Is being used to argue that there is "some debate" over the name of Germantown.
Debate according to whom, Dutch nationalists? Americans who try to frame things in borders that didn't actually exist in 1680? According to a source with a point of view that is ignoring every known fact? How about the fact that the settlers would have seen themselves as Deitsch, which is neither Deutsch nor Dutch, or the fact that the dialect they would have spoke spread from across these imaginary Dutch Deutsch borders which did not even exist in 1680? Or how about the fact that the Dutch population was up to 60% immigrant from the surrounding regions and "German" hinterland in the first place, and that the settlers in Pennsylvania had first lived in the Netherlands, then located to "Germany" and only then relocated to the United States? This article is pure misinformation and garbage, pot stirring for no reason. Who is questioning this name "Germantown" other than some Dutch-sounding writer who nobody has ever heard of? Why does this have such weight in an article, especially when it appears to be added by a user who has been banned? "Nevertheless" named - as in they ignored this fact and the town took the name anyway? What a bunch of goofy POV-pushing nonsense. But go ahead, revert me. I have better things to do than fix this terrible article on the anniversary of German-American Day, anyway. Glad to know truth about a town's name is whatever some Dutch linguist decides it is.
the founding of Germantown on October 6, 1683, was to provide the date for German-American Day, citation needed though many of the first thirteen Quaker and Mennonite families in Germantown came from the Netherlands rather than from Germany; until 1710, according to linguist Nicoline van der Sijs, "Germantown remained predominantly Dutch". [1] [2] The town was nevertheless named Germantown, as the direct vicinity of the settlement was inhabited by fifty-four German families who had accompanied Johan Printz to the Swedish settlement on the Delaware several years earlier and had resettled themselves.
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