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this edit: I don't disagree that the header looks a little odd with the double parentheses, but am not sure that changing
'French and Indian War (Seven Years War) (1754-1758)' to
'French and Indian War (Seven Years War; 1754-1758) is the best solution, but.... everything else I tried for that header? They all look a little odd, even the eventual solution I came up with (and the use of single quote marks to set off 'Seven Years War' is probably against some MoS guideline). Maybe other interested editors could take a look and weigh in here, as I said there are probably
WP:MOS considerations as well.
Shearonink (
talk) 14:52, 8 July 2011 (UTC)
A maintenance tag about the lede possibly being too long {{lead too long|date=July 2011}} was placed on the lede. I disagree that material from the section could be moved into the main body of the article itself (the article is already over 58,000 characters long!) but perhaps the lede could be trimmed. Opinions anyone? Shearonink ( talk) 14:08, 13 July 2011 (UTC)
I agree that some of the wording could be adjusted. For instance the first sentence's structure seems outdated/too flowery. He was home schooled by his father and older brother, but both died young, and he became attached to the powerful Fairfax clan, who promoted his career as a surveyor and soldier. The first part of this statement is apparently in error. According to Washington bio at Mount Vernon website
So referencing 'home schooling' as a verifiable fact is actually incorrect. The second half's wording of "attached to powerful Fairfax clan"? Not my favorite, I would suggest something along the lines of
The Washington men died young. As Ferling says of the grandfather: The First of Men: A Life of George Washington Page 2: "He died young, before his fortieth birthday, a fate that would haunt many others in this clan." GW's father died at 49; GW himself said "I was of a short-lived family" Rjensen ( talk) 04:23, 1 August 2011 (UTC)
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Please change "however, there is no record of his ever taking communion, and he would regularly leave services before communion—with the other non-communicants (as was the custom of the day), until, after being admonished by a rector, he ceased attending at all on communion Sundays.[195]" to say,
"There are several documented accounts of George Washington partaking in communion.
Major Popham, who served under Washington during the War, wrote to Mrs. Jane Washington on March 14, 1839:
"In a conversation with the Reverend Doctor Berrian, a few days since, he informed me that he had lately paid a visit to Mount Vernon, and that Mrs. Washington had expressed a wish to have a doubt removed from her mind, which had long oppressed her, as to the certainty of the General's having attended the communion while residing in the city of New York subsequent to the Revolution. As nearly all the remnants of those days are now sleeping with their fathers, it is not very probable that at this late day an individual can be found who could satisfy this pious wish of your virtuous heart except the writer. It was my great good fortune to have attended St. Paul's Church in this city with the General during the whole period of his residence in New York as President of the United States. The pew of Chief-Justice Morris was situated next to that of the President, close to whom I constantly sat in Judge Morris's pew, and I am as confident as a memory now laboring under the pressure of fourscore years and seven can make me, that the President had more that once-I believe I may say often-attended at the sacramental table, at which I had the privilege and happiness to kneel with him. And I am aided in my associations by my elder daughter, who distinctly recollects her grandmamma-Mrs. Morris-often mentioned that fact with great pleasure." [1]
In an 1855 letter, General S. H. Lewis claimed General Porterfield, the brigade-inspector under Washington, told him:
"General Washington was a pious man, and a member of your church (Episcopal). I saw him myself on his knees receive the sacrament of the Lord's Supper in ______ Church, in Philadelphia. He specified the time and place. My impression is that Christ Church was the place, and Bishop White, as he afterward was, the minister. This is, to the best of my recollection, an accurate statement of what I heard from General Porterfield on the subject." [2]
There is also an account of Washington taking communion with Presbyterians while encamped at Morristown.
"While the American army, under the command of Washington, lay encamped at Morristown, New Jersey (winter of 1776-7), it occurred that the service of the communion (then be observed simi-annually only) was to be administered in the Presbyterian church of that village. In a morning of the previous week the General, after his accustomed inspection of the camp, visited the house of the Rev. Doctor Jones (Johnes), then pastor of the church, and, after the usual preliminaries, thus accosted him: "Doctor, I understand that the Lord's Supper is to be celebrated with you next Sunday. I would learn if it accords with the canon of your church to admit communicants of another denomination?" The Doctor rejoined, "Most certainly; ours is not the Presbyterian table, General, but the Lord's table; and we hence give the Lord's invitation to all his followers, of whatever name." The General replied, "I am glad of it; that is as it ought to be; but, as I was not quite sure of the fact, I thought I would ascertain it from yourself, as I propose to join with you on that occasion. Though a member of the Church of England,, I have no exclusive partialities." The Doctor reassured him of a cordial welcome, and the General was found seated with the communicants the next Sabbath. [3]"
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I have moved this section here from the article and provided a link to presidential postage stamps/currency in the article. Per consensus reached in other presidential biographies (e.g. Lincoln, Eisenhower, Kennedy, Garfield), this represents a disproportionate use of space for a relatively insignificant memorial to the president.
George Washington appears on contemporary US currency, including the United States one-dollar bill|one-dollar bill] and the Quarter (United States coin)|US quarter dollar. On US postage stamps however, Washington appears numerous times and in many different denominations. He appears on one of the US Presidents on US postage stamps#First appearances|first postage stamps]] issued by the United States Postal Service|US Post Office in 1847, along with Benjamin Franklin. [1] Beginning in 1908, the US Post Office issued the longest running series of definitive stamps in the history of the US Post office when it issued the Washington-Franklin Issues, a series of more than 250 postage stamps bearing engravings of Washington and Franklin. Washington has been depicted on U.S. postage stamps more than all other notable Americans combined, including Abraham Lincoln and Benjamin Franklin. [1] File:Washington 1862 Issue-24c.jpg|thumb|115px|Washington, general issue of 1862, 24c File:Washington 1895 Issue-2c.jpg|thumb|115px|Washington, general issue of 1895, 2c File:Washington WF 1917 Issue-5c.jpg|thumb|115px|Washington-Franklin Issue of 1917, 5c File:Washington WF 1917 Issue-7c.jpg|thumb|121px|Washington-Franklin Issue of 1917, 7c]] File:Washington at Prayer Valley Forge 1928 Issue-2c.jpg|thumb|115px|Washington at Prayer, Valley Forge, issue of 1928, 2c File:George Washington 1908 Issue-4c.jpg|thumb|right|upright=0.7|James Sharples|Sharples' 1751 profile of Washington is used on this 1908 postage stamp. [1]
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in the actual displayed Wikipedia text of Washington's early life it says he was born on "butt poop turd", 1731 but in the hidden text of the editable frames it is correct....apparently someone has added malicious text.
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My edit request is regarding the use of hyphens, commas and semicolons; in many places they're used incorrectly and make reading the text difficult and sometimes confusing.
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[Thomas Jefferson]] said "[Washington] thinks it right to keep up appearances but is an unbeliever." Jefferson (who did not know Washington on a personal basis) was not a RS and this is not good history. Chernow (Washington) says that Jefferson got the information from Dr Green, and Chernow points out that Green said Jefferson garbled it. Rjensen ( talk) 04:06, 19 December 2011 (UTC)
Crossing the Delaware, More Accurately December 23, 2011, 12:30 PM by COREY KILGANNON New York Times
99.190.86.5 ( talk) 06:14, 28 December 2011 (UTC)
Since there is already an article on Washington's legacy, does there need to be a legacy section in the article? I find the Legacy section a bit jumbled. The "Cherry tree" myth could be a separate section. There is Lee's eulogy and then there is mentioned that Washington was reinstated as General of the Armies of the United States. I am not sure how those two events are related. Do there need to be any changes to or renaming the "Legacy" section? Cmguy777 ( talk) 20:55, 6 January 2012 (UTC)
At the beginnng of the George Washington article, the birthdate for GW is shown in the New Style (NS) and the Old Style (OS). The difference in dates should be 11 days. The information shown is one (1) year and 11 days. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.229.75.136 ( talk) 23:53, 22 December 2011 (UTC)
At some places and times, dates other than 1 January were used as the start of the year. The most common English-language convention was the Annunciation Style used in Britain and its colonies, in which the year started on 25 March, Annunciation Day; see the New Year article for a list of other styles. 1 January is assumed to be the opening date for years; if there is reason to use another start-date, this should be noted.
Is there POV in the Religious section? There are two rather large quotes that state Washington was not a deist (Lillback) and that he was a Christian (Chernow). Boller Jr. is not even quoted in the article. I believe the Lillback and the Chernow quotes give over-weight emphasis to the point of view that Washington was not a diest and that he was a Christian. Any objections? Cmguy777 ( talk) 19:09, 7 January 2012 (UTC)
Is Robert Corfe (2007) considered a reliable source: Diesm and Social Ethics? Cmguy777 ( talk) 07:26, 9 January 2012 (UTC)
Is Gary Scott Smith (2006) a reliable source? Faith and the presidency: from George Washington to George W. Bush Cmguy777 ( talk) 07:32, 9 January 2012 (UTC)
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George Washington was not the fifty second president of the US
Sikthsense ( talk) 13:52, 16 February 2012 (UTC)
"hold together the arm" should read "hold together the army" -- 184.7.78.185 ( talk) 04:15, 20 February 2012 (UTC)
I am aware that GW had no children of his own, however he is often cited as having a "son", presumably a stepson. Can we see additional information on this? 99.2.69.235 ( talk) 05:38, 21 February 2012 (UTC)
I have provided 11 references. Please don't remove it from the infobox. Pass a Method talk 18:26, 9 April 2012 (UTC)
Shown in
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Also, while I concur that from the verifiable reliable sources it could certainly be stated that Washington was a Deist in religious philosophy, that does not seem to be to be the same as a religion...so far as I know, Washington did not worship in the Church of Deism or get baptized as a Deist. From what I understand, a Deist can be an adherent of any religion or even possibly none, just because one states that one is a "Deist" doesn't necessarily mean that one is Christian (or, in Washington's case, Church of England/Episcopalian). The verifiable information indicates that Washington was a member of certain organized churches throughout his life and that information should at the very least be placed first in the Infobox, which is what I have done.
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Did George Washington cut down his father only charry tree. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.79.184.81 ( talk) 12:22, 9 May 2012 (UTC)
The order of the religious beliefs in the Infobox was recently changed as shown in this edit, Anglican/Episcopalian had been first and now Deism is first. Isn't Deism a philosophy and not an actual religion, can't people be adherents of differing religious beliefs and also Deists? Even though reliable sources concur that Washington was a Deist they also state that he was a member of the Anglican/Episcopalian Churches and not a member of the Deism Church. I'm not sure which link should be first but think that any interested editors should weigh in on this matter before the Infobox's format is altered in this way. Shearonink ( talk) 18:15, 17 May 2012 (UTC)
Someone should fix the link to Wikimedia Commons, it is broken. (Category:Category:George Washington) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Arildto ( talk • contribs) 12:17, 21 May 2012 (UTC)
In the second paragraph of the introduction, lines 7-8: "Because of his strategy, Revolutionary forces captured two major British armies at Saratoga in 1777 and Yorktown in 1781.'
This statement might be modified or qualified, because as it stands it attributes too big a share of these victories to Washington. Many, many factors were involved, and though Washington did contribute at Saratoga by his timeliness in sending crucial reinforcements, let's face it, he wasn't there.
Certainly, if Horatio Gates or Benedict Arnold were to read such a statement--indeed if Washington himself were to read such a statement about how the Battle of Saratoga was won--they would reject it as inaccurate.
The bald statement "Because of his strategy" might give the unwary reader the impression that Washington presciently planned an ambush of Burgoyne, whereas I'm not aware of evidence supporting this.
A better statement might be: "Washington made strategic contributions to the crucial victory at Saratoga." — Preceding unsigned comment added by Guerre1859 ( talk • contribs) 18:18, 22 May 2012 (UTC)
This paragraph under Washington's religious beliefs is written in the first person and extremely biased. Can someone please remove it?
There has been a huge controversy, to put it mildly, about Washington's religious beliefs. Before the Revolutionary War he was Anglican – Church of England – which meant after the war, he was Episcopalian. So, he was clearly Christian....He was quite intensely religious, because even though he uses the word Providence, he constantly sees Providence as an active force in life, particularly in American life. I mean, every single victory in war he credits to Providence. The miracle of the Constitutional Convention he credits to Providence. The creation of the federal government and the prosperity of the early republic, he credits to Providence... I was struck at how frequently in his letters he's referring to Providence, and it's Providence where there's a sense of design and purpose, which sounds to me very much like religion... Unfortunately, this particular issue has become very very politicized. ( 67.243.164.243 ( talk) 16:31, 30 May 2012 (UTC))
I think the only problem with this section really is that, since it's apparently all quoted from Ron Chernow, it should be formatted as a block quote like the others in the article. As it is, if one missed the preceeding line for whatever reason, this reads like a major shift in the article's tone. 68.149.38.112 ( talk) 18:54, 11 June 2012 (UTC)
The dishonest libertarians who RUN wikipedia have effectively whitewashed perhaps one of the cornerstones of George Washingon's beleifs.
NOWHERE in this article does it get into George Washington's support for a strong central government. As of now, the words "Central Government" don't even appear in the article at all, leaving the reader with a completely skewed understanding of the nation's first President and his intentions.
Google the words "George Washingon" with "Strong Central Government" and you will find a slew of sources supporting this, including in Washington's own writings.
Please don't let the libertarians whitewash our nation's history by allowing them to control the flow of information and omit anything that doesn't line up with their narrative.
This is a prime example of why so many scholars and academics don't support Wikipedia..
-- 69.125.144.110 ( talk) 18:21, 8 June 2012 (UTC)
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The year of Washington's O.S. birthdate should be changed from 1731 to 1732. The transition from the Julian to Gregorian calendar changed dates by 11 days in the period when Washington was born, but it did not change the calendar year of a date (unless, of course the Julian date fell in late December). See, by comparison, the dates of Thomas Jefferson's birth in the Wikipedia article on Jefferson, and the details of the Gregorian calendar in the Wikipedia article on that topic. Fizzbowen ( talk) 16:24, 10 June 2012 (UTC)
At some places and times, dates other than 1 January were used as the start of the year. The most common English-language convention was the Annunciation Style used in Britain and its colonies, in which the year started on 25 March, Annunciation Day; see the New Year article for a list of other styles. 1 January is assumed to be the opening date for years; if there is reason to use another start-date, this should be noted.
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this edit: I don't disagree that the header looks a little odd with the double parentheses, but am not sure that changing
'French and Indian War (Seven Years War) (1754-1758)' to
'French and Indian War (Seven Years War; 1754-1758) is the best solution, but.... everything else I tried for that header? They all look a little odd, even the eventual solution I came up with (and the use of single quote marks to set off 'Seven Years War' is probably against some MoS guideline). Maybe other interested editors could take a look and weigh in here, as I said there are probably
WP:MOS considerations as well.
Shearonink (
talk) 14:52, 8 July 2011 (UTC)
A maintenance tag about the lede possibly being too long {{lead too long|date=July 2011}} was placed on the lede. I disagree that material from the section could be moved into the main body of the article itself (the article is already over 58,000 characters long!) but perhaps the lede could be trimmed. Opinions anyone? Shearonink ( talk) 14:08, 13 July 2011 (UTC)
I agree that some of the wording could be adjusted. For instance the first sentence's structure seems outdated/too flowery. He was home schooled by his father and older brother, but both died young, and he became attached to the powerful Fairfax clan, who promoted his career as a surveyor and soldier. The first part of this statement is apparently in error. According to Washington bio at Mount Vernon website
So referencing 'home schooling' as a verifiable fact is actually incorrect. The second half's wording of "attached to powerful Fairfax clan"? Not my favorite, I would suggest something along the lines of
The Washington men died young. As Ferling says of the grandfather: The First of Men: A Life of George Washington Page 2: "He died young, before his fortieth birthday, a fate that would haunt many others in this clan." GW's father died at 49; GW himself said "I was of a short-lived family" Rjensen ( talk) 04:23, 1 August 2011 (UTC)
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Please change "however, there is no record of his ever taking communion, and he would regularly leave services before communion—with the other non-communicants (as was the custom of the day), until, after being admonished by a rector, he ceased attending at all on communion Sundays.[195]" to say,
"There are several documented accounts of George Washington partaking in communion.
Major Popham, who served under Washington during the War, wrote to Mrs. Jane Washington on March 14, 1839:
"In a conversation with the Reverend Doctor Berrian, a few days since, he informed me that he had lately paid a visit to Mount Vernon, and that Mrs. Washington had expressed a wish to have a doubt removed from her mind, which had long oppressed her, as to the certainty of the General's having attended the communion while residing in the city of New York subsequent to the Revolution. As nearly all the remnants of those days are now sleeping with their fathers, it is not very probable that at this late day an individual can be found who could satisfy this pious wish of your virtuous heart except the writer. It was my great good fortune to have attended St. Paul's Church in this city with the General during the whole period of his residence in New York as President of the United States. The pew of Chief-Justice Morris was situated next to that of the President, close to whom I constantly sat in Judge Morris's pew, and I am as confident as a memory now laboring under the pressure of fourscore years and seven can make me, that the President had more that once-I believe I may say often-attended at the sacramental table, at which I had the privilege and happiness to kneel with him. And I am aided in my associations by my elder daughter, who distinctly recollects her grandmamma-Mrs. Morris-often mentioned that fact with great pleasure." [1]
In an 1855 letter, General S. H. Lewis claimed General Porterfield, the brigade-inspector under Washington, told him:
"General Washington was a pious man, and a member of your church (Episcopal). I saw him myself on his knees receive the sacrament of the Lord's Supper in ______ Church, in Philadelphia. He specified the time and place. My impression is that Christ Church was the place, and Bishop White, as he afterward was, the minister. This is, to the best of my recollection, an accurate statement of what I heard from General Porterfield on the subject." [2]
There is also an account of Washington taking communion with Presbyterians while encamped at Morristown.
"While the American army, under the command of Washington, lay encamped at Morristown, New Jersey (winter of 1776-7), it occurred that the service of the communion (then be observed simi-annually only) was to be administered in the Presbyterian church of that village. In a morning of the previous week the General, after his accustomed inspection of the camp, visited the house of the Rev. Doctor Jones (Johnes), then pastor of the church, and, after the usual preliminaries, thus accosted him: "Doctor, I understand that the Lord's Supper is to be celebrated with you next Sunday. I would learn if it accords with the canon of your church to admit communicants of another denomination?" The Doctor rejoined, "Most certainly; ours is not the Presbyterian table, General, but the Lord's table; and we hence give the Lord's invitation to all his followers, of whatever name." The General replied, "I am glad of it; that is as it ought to be; but, as I was not quite sure of the fact, I thought I would ascertain it from yourself, as I propose to join with you on that occasion. Though a member of the Church of England,, I have no exclusive partialities." The Doctor reassured him of a cordial welcome, and the General was found seated with the communicants the next Sabbath. [3]"
(Notes)
— Preceding
unsigned comment added by
98.86.135.190 (
talk) 17:06, 8 August 2011 (UTC)
I have moved this section here from the article and provided a link to presidential postage stamps/currency in the article. Per consensus reached in other presidential biographies (e.g. Lincoln, Eisenhower, Kennedy, Garfield), this represents a disproportionate use of space for a relatively insignificant memorial to the president.
George Washington appears on contemporary US currency, including the United States one-dollar bill|one-dollar bill] and the Quarter (United States coin)|US quarter dollar. On US postage stamps however, Washington appears numerous times and in many different denominations. He appears on one of the US Presidents on US postage stamps#First appearances|first postage stamps]] issued by the United States Postal Service|US Post Office in 1847, along with Benjamin Franklin. [1] Beginning in 1908, the US Post Office issued the longest running series of definitive stamps in the history of the US Post office when it issued the Washington-Franklin Issues, a series of more than 250 postage stamps bearing engravings of Washington and Franklin. Washington has been depicted on U.S. postage stamps more than all other notable Americans combined, including Abraham Lincoln and Benjamin Franklin. [1] File:Washington 1862 Issue-24c.jpg|thumb|115px|Washington, general issue of 1862, 24c File:Washington 1895 Issue-2c.jpg|thumb|115px|Washington, general issue of 1895, 2c File:Washington WF 1917 Issue-5c.jpg|thumb|115px|Washington-Franklin Issue of 1917, 5c File:Washington WF 1917 Issue-7c.jpg|thumb|121px|Washington-Franklin Issue of 1917, 7c]] File:Washington at Prayer Valley Forge 1928 Issue-2c.jpg|thumb|115px|Washington at Prayer, Valley Forge, issue of 1928, 2c File:George Washington 1908 Issue-4c.jpg|thumb|right|upright=0.7|James Sharples|Sharples' 1751 profile of Washington is used on this 1908 postage stamp. [1]
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in the actual displayed Wikipedia text of Washington's early life it says he was born on "butt poop turd", 1731 but in the hidden text of the editable frames it is correct....apparently someone has added malicious text.
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My edit request is regarding the use of hyphens, commas and semicolons; in many places they're used incorrectly and make reading the text difficult and sometimes confusing.
69.198.84.146 ( talk) 18:03, 13 October 2011 (UTC)
[Thomas Jefferson]] said "[Washington] thinks it right to keep up appearances but is an unbeliever." Jefferson (who did not know Washington on a personal basis) was not a RS and this is not good history. Chernow (Washington) says that Jefferson got the information from Dr Green, and Chernow points out that Green said Jefferson garbled it. Rjensen ( talk) 04:06, 19 December 2011 (UTC)
Crossing the Delaware, More Accurately December 23, 2011, 12:30 PM by COREY KILGANNON New York Times
99.190.86.5 ( talk) 06:14, 28 December 2011 (UTC)
Since there is already an article on Washington's legacy, does there need to be a legacy section in the article? I find the Legacy section a bit jumbled. The "Cherry tree" myth could be a separate section. There is Lee's eulogy and then there is mentioned that Washington was reinstated as General of the Armies of the United States. I am not sure how those two events are related. Do there need to be any changes to or renaming the "Legacy" section? Cmguy777 ( talk) 20:55, 6 January 2012 (UTC)
At the beginnng of the George Washington article, the birthdate for GW is shown in the New Style (NS) and the Old Style (OS). The difference in dates should be 11 days. The information shown is one (1) year and 11 days. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.229.75.136 ( talk) 23:53, 22 December 2011 (UTC)
At some places and times, dates other than 1 January were used as the start of the year. The most common English-language convention was the Annunciation Style used in Britain and its colonies, in which the year started on 25 March, Annunciation Day; see the New Year article for a list of other styles. 1 January is assumed to be the opening date for years; if there is reason to use another start-date, this should be noted.
Is there POV in the Religious section? There are two rather large quotes that state Washington was not a deist (Lillback) and that he was a Christian (Chernow). Boller Jr. is not even quoted in the article. I believe the Lillback and the Chernow quotes give over-weight emphasis to the point of view that Washington was not a diest and that he was a Christian. Any objections? Cmguy777 ( talk) 19:09, 7 January 2012 (UTC)
Is Robert Corfe (2007) considered a reliable source: Diesm and Social Ethics? Cmguy777 ( talk) 07:26, 9 January 2012 (UTC)
Is Gary Scott Smith (2006) a reliable source? Faith and the presidency: from George Washington to George W. Bush Cmguy777 ( talk) 07:32, 9 January 2012 (UTC)
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George Washington was not the fifty second president of the US
Sikthsense ( talk) 13:52, 16 February 2012 (UTC)
"hold together the arm" should read "hold together the army" -- 184.7.78.185 ( talk) 04:15, 20 February 2012 (UTC)
I am aware that GW had no children of his own, however he is often cited as having a "son", presumably a stepson. Can we see additional information on this? 99.2.69.235 ( talk) 05:38, 21 February 2012 (UTC)
I have provided 11 references. Please don't remove it from the infobox. Pass a Method talk 18:26, 9 April 2012 (UTC)
Shown in
this edit seem to be formatted differently from any other references in this article, plus the following information is missing: page numbers, publisher, year published, etc. Anyone know how to fix this?
Also, while I concur that from the verifiable reliable sources it could certainly be stated that Washington was a Deist in religious philosophy, that does not seem to be to be the same as a religion...so far as I know, Washington did not worship in the Church of Deism or get baptized as a Deist. From what I understand, a Deist can be an adherent of any religion or even possibly none, just because one states that one is a "Deist" doesn't necessarily mean that one is Christian (or, in Washington's case, Church of England/Episcopalian). The verifiable information indicates that Washington was a member of certain organized churches throughout his life and that information should at the very least be placed first in the Infobox, which is what I have done.
Shearonink (
talk) 13:53, 26 April 2012 (UTC)
Did George Washington cut down his father only charry tree. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.79.184.81 ( talk) 12:22, 9 May 2012 (UTC)
The order of the religious beliefs in the Infobox was recently changed as shown in this edit, Anglican/Episcopalian had been first and now Deism is first. Isn't Deism a philosophy and not an actual religion, can't people be adherents of differing religious beliefs and also Deists? Even though reliable sources concur that Washington was a Deist they also state that he was a member of the Anglican/Episcopalian Churches and not a member of the Deism Church. I'm not sure which link should be first but think that any interested editors should weigh in on this matter before the Infobox's format is altered in this way. Shearonink ( talk) 18:15, 17 May 2012 (UTC)
Someone should fix the link to Wikimedia Commons, it is broken. (Category:Category:George Washington) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Arildto ( talk • contribs) 12:17, 21 May 2012 (UTC)
In the second paragraph of the introduction, lines 7-8: "Because of his strategy, Revolutionary forces captured two major British armies at Saratoga in 1777 and Yorktown in 1781.'
This statement might be modified or qualified, because as it stands it attributes too big a share of these victories to Washington. Many, many factors were involved, and though Washington did contribute at Saratoga by his timeliness in sending crucial reinforcements, let's face it, he wasn't there.
Certainly, if Horatio Gates or Benedict Arnold were to read such a statement--indeed if Washington himself were to read such a statement about how the Battle of Saratoga was won--they would reject it as inaccurate.
The bald statement "Because of his strategy" might give the unwary reader the impression that Washington presciently planned an ambush of Burgoyne, whereas I'm not aware of evidence supporting this.
A better statement might be: "Washington made strategic contributions to the crucial victory at Saratoga." — Preceding unsigned comment added by Guerre1859 ( talk • contribs) 18:18, 22 May 2012 (UTC)
This paragraph under Washington's religious beliefs is written in the first person and extremely biased. Can someone please remove it?
There has been a huge controversy, to put it mildly, about Washington's religious beliefs. Before the Revolutionary War he was Anglican – Church of England – which meant after the war, he was Episcopalian. So, he was clearly Christian....He was quite intensely religious, because even though he uses the word Providence, he constantly sees Providence as an active force in life, particularly in American life. I mean, every single victory in war he credits to Providence. The miracle of the Constitutional Convention he credits to Providence. The creation of the federal government and the prosperity of the early republic, he credits to Providence... I was struck at how frequently in his letters he's referring to Providence, and it's Providence where there's a sense of design and purpose, which sounds to me very much like religion... Unfortunately, this particular issue has become very very politicized. ( 67.243.164.243 ( talk) 16:31, 30 May 2012 (UTC))
I think the only problem with this section really is that, since it's apparently all quoted from Ron Chernow, it should be formatted as a block quote like the others in the article. As it is, if one missed the preceeding line for whatever reason, this reads like a major shift in the article's tone. 68.149.38.112 ( talk) 18:54, 11 June 2012 (UTC)
The dishonest libertarians who RUN wikipedia have effectively whitewashed perhaps one of the cornerstones of George Washingon's beleifs.
NOWHERE in this article does it get into George Washington's support for a strong central government. As of now, the words "Central Government" don't even appear in the article at all, leaving the reader with a completely skewed understanding of the nation's first President and his intentions.
Google the words "George Washingon" with "Strong Central Government" and you will find a slew of sources supporting this, including in Washington's own writings.
Please don't let the libertarians whitewash our nation's history by allowing them to control the flow of information and omit anything that doesn't line up with their narrative.
This is a prime example of why so many scholars and academics don't support Wikipedia..
-- 69.125.144.110 ( talk) 18:21, 8 June 2012 (UTC)
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The year of Washington's O.S. birthdate should be changed from 1731 to 1732. The transition from the Julian to Gregorian calendar changed dates by 11 days in the period when Washington was born, but it did not change the calendar year of a date (unless, of course the Julian date fell in late December). See, by comparison, the dates of Thomas Jefferson's birth in the Wikipedia article on Jefferson, and the details of the Gregorian calendar in the Wikipedia article on that topic. Fizzbowen ( talk) 16:24, 10 June 2012 (UTC)
At some places and times, dates other than 1 January were used as the start of the year. The most common English-language convention was the Annunciation Style used in Britain and its colonies, in which the year started on 25 March, Annunciation Day; see the New Year article for a list of other styles. 1 January is assumed to be the opening date for years; if there is reason to use another start-date, this should be noted.