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Political spin term removed

@ The Banner, WP:NPOV prevents us from using political spin terms such as "pro-choice" in articles. You can add "pro-abortion rights" if it helps you to clarify who he meant in the quote. Thanks. Elizium23 ( talk) 00:51, 8 July 2022 (UTC) reply

I call that censorship. And we have WP:SPADE. When backed up by sources, we should tell the truth. Not twiddle around it out of fear of hurting someone feelings. The Banner  talk 08:45, 8 July 2022 (UTC) reply
It is "pro-abortion" that's calling a spade a spade and the "truth", while "pro-choice" is the obfuscating, euphemistic term...? 2A01:36D:118:C371:8CE9:8C9E:1EF8:E358 ( talk) 18:27, 2 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Text claims late terms abortions were only performed in extreme cases, but is contradicted by source

Tiller treated patients who discovered late in pregnancy that their fetuses had severe or fatal birth defects. He also aborted healthy late-term fetuses in cases where two doctors certified that carrying the fetus to term would cause the woman "substantial and irreversible impairment of a major bodily function."

This doesn't seem to be supported by the source, which states that 3/4 of the abortions were teenagers who had hidden the pregnancy until late term. Similarly, the other late-term clinics state that the majority of late-term abortions are "elective". Ketil ( talk) 06:53, 13 November 2022 (UTC) reply

Christin Gilbert

Why is the death of Christin Gilbert not mentioned here? 136.32.195.44 ( talk) 21:08, 15 March 2023 (UTC) reply

Was he shot by an anti-abortion terrorist?

This was added all the way back around the time it happened, initially as "anti-abortion activist" then changed depending on the editor's POV. But is it right to say when this is the only notable act of terrorism (or activism) from Roeder and he was just a normal scizophrenic man until then? It's a bit redundant and confusing, like you don't say someone was killed by a murderer, when that's the only murder they committed. 178.164.251.223 ( talk) 21:11, 2 July 2024 (UTC) reply

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


Political spin term removed

@ The Banner, WP:NPOV prevents us from using political spin terms such as "pro-choice" in articles. You can add "pro-abortion rights" if it helps you to clarify who he meant in the quote. Thanks. Elizium23 ( talk) 00:51, 8 July 2022 (UTC) reply

I call that censorship. And we have WP:SPADE. When backed up by sources, we should tell the truth. Not twiddle around it out of fear of hurting someone feelings. The Banner  talk 08:45, 8 July 2022 (UTC) reply
It is "pro-abortion" that's calling a spade a spade and the "truth", while "pro-choice" is the obfuscating, euphemistic term...? 2A01:36D:118:C371:8CE9:8C9E:1EF8:E358 ( talk) 18:27, 2 July 2024 (UTC) reply

Text claims late terms abortions were only performed in extreme cases, but is contradicted by source

Tiller treated patients who discovered late in pregnancy that their fetuses had severe or fatal birth defects. He also aborted healthy late-term fetuses in cases where two doctors certified that carrying the fetus to term would cause the woman "substantial and irreversible impairment of a major bodily function."

This doesn't seem to be supported by the source, which states that 3/4 of the abortions were teenagers who had hidden the pregnancy until late term. Similarly, the other late-term clinics state that the majority of late-term abortions are "elective". Ketil ( talk) 06:53, 13 November 2022 (UTC) reply

Christin Gilbert

Why is the death of Christin Gilbert not mentioned here? 136.32.195.44 ( talk) 21:08, 15 March 2023 (UTC) reply

Was he shot by an anti-abortion terrorist?

This was added all the way back around the time it happened, initially as "anti-abortion activist" then changed depending on the editor's POV. But is it right to say when this is the only notable act of terrorism (or activism) from Roeder and he was just a normal scizophrenic man until then? It's a bit redundant and confusing, like you don't say someone was killed by a murderer, when that's the only murder they committed. 178.164.251.223 ( talk) 21:11, 2 July 2024 (UTC) reply


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