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I took out some remarks about how wonderful Steiner is and how "some" see his work as contra "nihilistic" criticism (deconstruction, anyone?). I like Steiner's work myself, but I thought this was supposed to be an unedited encyclopedia.
Also, merely reporting Steiner as criticer without noting his enduring interest in, & contribution to, translation studies is impermissibly vague.
I'd like the article to say something about Steiner's interest in religion and the sacral nature of language/literature, but I don't know his work well enough to do so. Anyone else? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Andersonblog ( talk • contribs) 13:17, November 19, 2006
The article reads: "Some consider him both a polyglot and a polymath"
There is no room for opinion here. He either does speak more than one language -in which case he is a polyglot- or he does not. The matter of polymathy may be a slightly more grey area, but it would still need to be footnoted. And footnoted to a serious source, not the blog of some sycophantic student of his. Saying "some people" is the most cowardly of dodges and, quite frankly, carries very little weight. Oulipal ( talk) 10:27, 19 September 2011 (UTC)
I think you need to be more than bilingual or trilingual to be called a polyglot. Seadowns ( talk) 15:32, 11 March 2020 (UTC) It is a question of what weight people give the evidence. Seadowns ( talk) 00:24, 13 March 2020 (UTC)
If that's a euphemism for brothel, and I can't think what else it could be, it's got to go. In my 40 years on this planet I've heard no shortage of terms--disorderly house--but never that one, which I thought meant a place for a pint and was generally abbreviated to 'pub'. Can't we just say 'brothel' and be done with it? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.12.80.235 ( talk) 17:56, 17 July 2014 (UTC)
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Numerous parts of the article are lifted directly from here: https://www.theguardian.com/books/2001/mar/17/arts.highereducation 79.70.168.210 ( talk) 13:33, 7 September 2017 (UTC)
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The article gives the impression that Steiner could read Homeric Greek from the age of six. Some verification seems to be required. Seadowns ( talk) 14:45, 1 December 2019 (UTC)
The three sources are just three journalists who have picked up the same item. They are not witnesses. Perhaps there is some solid evidence somewhere. Seadowns ( talk) 23:20, 1 December 2019 (UTC)
I know from a totally reliable person that .... but this is not an acceptable source for Wikipedia. Does anybody know of an acceptably verifiable source for this? Seadowns ( talk) 17:54, 8 March 2020 (UTC)
I wish to withdraw my scepticism (as Seadowns) about his reading Greek at age 6. It was inadequately based. Esedowns ( talk) 19:38, 7 April 2022 (UTC)
To explain the above, I have realised that any bright young person, such was I was, reading English at 6, given up to a day to learn the Greek alphabet, could have read out words from Homer, and this could be called reading Homeric Greek. Esedowns ( talk) 15:08, 11 April 2022 (UTC)
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I took out some remarks about how wonderful Steiner is and how "some" see his work as contra "nihilistic" criticism (deconstruction, anyone?). I like Steiner's work myself, but I thought this was supposed to be an unedited encyclopedia.
Also, merely reporting Steiner as criticer without noting his enduring interest in, & contribution to, translation studies is impermissibly vague.
I'd like the article to say something about Steiner's interest in religion and the sacral nature of language/literature, but I don't know his work well enough to do so. Anyone else? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Andersonblog ( talk • contribs) 13:17, November 19, 2006
The article reads: "Some consider him both a polyglot and a polymath"
There is no room for opinion here. He either does speak more than one language -in which case he is a polyglot- or he does not. The matter of polymathy may be a slightly more grey area, but it would still need to be footnoted. And footnoted to a serious source, not the blog of some sycophantic student of his. Saying "some people" is the most cowardly of dodges and, quite frankly, carries very little weight. Oulipal ( talk) 10:27, 19 September 2011 (UTC)
I think you need to be more than bilingual or trilingual to be called a polyglot. Seadowns ( talk) 15:32, 11 March 2020 (UTC) It is a question of what weight people give the evidence. Seadowns ( talk) 00:24, 13 March 2020 (UTC)
If that's a euphemism for brothel, and I can't think what else it could be, it's got to go. In my 40 years on this planet I've heard no shortage of terms--disorderly house--but never that one, which I thought meant a place for a pint and was generally abbreviated to 'pub'. Can't we just say 'brothel' and be done with it? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.12.80.235 ( talk) 17:56, 17 July 2014 (UTC)
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The article gives the impression that Steiner could read Homeric Greek from the age of six. Some verification seems to be required. Seadowns ( talk) 14:45, 1 December 2019 (UTC)
The three sources are just three journalists who have picked up the same item. They are not witnesses. Perhaps there is some solid evidence somewhere. Seadowns ( talk) 23:20, 1 December 2019 (UTC)
I know from a totally reliable person that .... but this is not an acceptable source for Wikipedia. Does anybody know of an acceptably verifiable source for this? Seadowns ( talk) 17:54, 8 March 2020 (UTC)
I wish to withdraw my scepticism (as Seadowns) about his reading Greek at age 6. It was inadequately based. Esedowns ( talk) 19:38, 7 April 2022 (UTC)
To explain the above, I have realised that any bright young person, such was I was, reading English at 6, given up to a day to learn the Greek alphabet, could have read out words from Homer, and this could be called reading Homeric Greek. Esedowns ( talk) 15:08, 11 April 2022 (UTC)