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The emphasis on the national politics of the life of George Lansbury in this little vignette has underplayed the role he took in seeking social justice for the working classes, his imprisonment for refusing to comply with onerous local rates, and the tragedy of the death of the daughter in law who also went to prison over the same issue. The memorials to him (and her!) in the East End of London reflect this personal consideration.
A. I was able to find information on Lansbury's work to achieve justice for working people, including women's rights and the Poplar Rates Rebellion, and his imprisionment by the government for these activities. I have included new information in the original article as well as in a new one. While I discovered that his daughter-in-law, Minnie Lansbury, went to prison with him, I found no mention of her death. -- Jose Ramos 15:50, 23 Aug 2003 (UTC)
A. I have undertaken some updates to the page. -- Jonathan Rackowe 26 July 2007
Q: The article asserts that George Lansbury said he was in favour of abolishing army and saying to the world "Do your worse" but if you actually examine the source cited (132) it actually specifically says that he did not say that in his address, 'They [another pair of authors] also state that Lansbury sent a message to East Fulham reading: 'I would close every recruiting station, disband the Army and disarm the Air Force. I would abolish the whole dreadful equipment of war and say to the world "Do your worst"'. These words do not appear in Lansbury's message, which merely appealed to electors to vote Labour as an escape from the 'menace of war ... widespread unemployment, hopeless poverty and insecurity and dreadful social misery and unhappiness' [1] p. 185, can this be replaced with a different quote? - 20/07/2015 — Preceding unsigned comment added by BoldJuan ( talk • contribs) 12:46, 20 July 2015 (UTC)
Q. I have a particular interest in George Lansbury as I am related through marriage. When at university I found a copy of the book he wrote about his life, but have since failed to find a copy; I think it was called "My Life" or something similar. Does anyone know its correct title, and how I might buy a copy?
A. The book was indeed called My Life, published in 1928. Obviously, it only covers a part of his career and life. Lansbury also wrote:
Biographies have been written by:
-- Jonathan Rackowe, Great Grandson of George Lansbury. 82.153.70.205 ( talk) 10:52, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
Regarding this item under the heading of HEIRS:
His name lives on in the Lansbury Estate and, of course, the Lido.
Danindenver ( talk) 09:41, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
Yes, I have expanded the line that mentions Lansbury's Lido to reference the location in London's Hyde Park. -- Jonathan Rackowe 82.153.70.205 ( talk) 10:37, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
I think considerably more information is needed about his attitude to the first world war, the supremen political test of the time. The Daily Herald did not campaign consistently against British war objectives, unless I am mistaken... Johncmullen1960 ( talk) 08:24, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
This will happen over the next few weeks. The article will, for a while, look decidedly lopsided, but all will come out right in the end. Suggestions for further improvements, sources etc are welcome, for discussion here. Brianboulton ( talk) 16:00, 11 February 2013 (UTC)
Why is he notable? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.151.65.218 ( talk) 16:56, 15 August 2013 (UTC)
I have removed the following images, recently added to the article:
The images lack proper source and authorrship details. In each case the author is given as the "LSE library", which is obviously not correct. Also the licence, which claims PD in the USA on the grounds of original publication before 1923, is clearly wrong when the events depicted in the images date from 1929, 1935 and 1936 respectively. Please do not re-add the images until their PD status has been properly established through author, source and appropriate licence. Brianboulton ( talk) 23:49, 12 September 2014 (UTC)
I recently removed Category:British pacifists and Category:British socialists from the article as they seem to be redundant to Category:English Christian pacifists and Category:English Christian socialists respectively. Having been reverted by AusLondonder, I figured I would open a discussion here.
WP:SUBCAT provides that:
A page or category should rarely be placed in both a category and a subcategory or parent category (supercategory) of that category (unless the child category is non-diffusing – see below – or eponymous). For example, the article "Paris" need only be placed in "Category:Cities in France", not in both " Category:Cities in France" and " Category:Populated places in France". Because the first category (cities) is in the second category (populated places), readers are already given the information that Paris is a populated place in France by it being a city in France.
I imagine it is for this reason that the article is not in Category:European pacifists and Category:European socialists. So I'm not clear on what rationale there could be for keeping the Category:British pacifists and Category:British socialists. Graham ( talk) 00:10, 23 January 2016 (UTC)
An IP is attempting to enlarge the infobox by re-inserting the details od "preceded by" and "succeeded by" in the various offices Lansbury held. These do not constitute "key facts" in Lansbury's career. If the IP has an issue with this interpretation of MoS regarding infoboxes, please bring the debate here. Brianboulton ( talk) 10:29, 15 September 2016 (UTC)
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I discovered the other day that Lansbury is Labour's only leader to have never contested a general election - notwithstanding acting leaders and the incumbent, whose tenure has not finished. User:Tim riley reverted the addition of this fact to the article lead, but did not seem to mind it being in the section about Lansbury's leadership of the party. I added it back to the lead, and posted this on Tim's Usertalk page:
John Smith (Labour Party leader) is probably turning in his grave. FDW777 ( talk) 15:25, 1 June 2021 (UTC)
I agree with Tim riley that the factoid should not appear in the LEAD section, especially since it is not unique. Obviously, all facts must be cited in WP:Reliable sources, per WP:V. As Tim noted, if we cannot find a citation for for a factoid, it is usually because the authors of the sources on the topic didn't find it important enough to mention. Even the assertion about him "thus" contesting no general elections is WP:synthesis, and the use of three references to support it underlines this fault. I've left that in, for now, but hidden the second, uncited factoid. -- Ssilvers ( talk) 18:23, 1 June 2021 (UTC)
FDW777, so forgive my lack of familiarity with John Smith (and I can't get to the source cited). Are you saying this edit needs to be reverted? —valereee ( talk) 13:15, 2 June 2021 (UTC)
@ Tim riley, would you be able to explain how the line: "...he spent his political life campaigning against established authority and vested interests..." is 1.) Supported by the sources and 2.) adheres to the principle of NPOV? Are the concepts of "established authorities" and "vested interests" objective terms in your mind? Alssa1 ( talk) 23:10, 11 October 2022 (UTC)
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The emphasis on the national politics of the life of George Lansbury in this little vignette has underplayed the role he took in seeking social justice for the working classes, his imprisonment for refusing to comply with onerous local rates, and the tragedy of the death of the daughter in law who also went to prison over the same issue. The memorials to him (and her!) in the East End of London reflect this personal consideration.
A. I was able to find information on Lansbury's work to achieve justice for working people, including women's rights and the Poplar Rates Rebellion, and his imprisionment by the government for these activities. I have included new information in the original article as well as in a new one. While I discovered that his daughter-in-law, Minnie Lansbury, went to prison with him, I found no mention of her death. -- Jose Ramos 15:50, 23 Aug 2003 (UTC)
A. I have undertaken some updates to the page. -- Jonathan Rackowe 26 July 2007
Q: The article asserts that George Lansbury said he was in favour of abolishing army and saying to the world "Do your worse" but if you actually examine the source cited (132) it actually specifically says that he did not say that in his address, 'They [another pair of authors] also state that Lansbury sent a message to East Fulham reading: 'I would close every recruiting station, disband the Army and disarm the Air Force. I would abolish the whole dreadful equipment of war and say to the world "Do your worst"'. These words do not appear in Lansbury's message, which merely appealed to electors to vote Labour as an escape from the 'menace of war ... widespread unemployment, hopeless poverty and insecurity and dreadful social misery and unhappiness' [1] p. 185, can this be replaced with a different quote? - 20/07/2015 — Preceding unsigned comment added by BoldJuan ( talk • contribs) 12:46, 20 July 2015 (UTC)
Q. I have a particular interest in George Lansbury as I am related through marriage. When at university I found a copy of the book he wrote about his life, but have since failed to find a copy; I think it was called "My Life" or something similar. Does anyone know its correct title, and how I might buy a copy?
A. The book was indeed called My Life, published in 1928. Obviously, it only covers a part of his career and life. Lansbury also wrote:
Biographies have been written by:
-- Jonathan Rackowe, Great Grandson of George Lansbury. 82.153.70.205 ( talk) 10:52, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
Regarding this item under the heading of HEIRS:
His name lives on in the Lansbury Estate and, of course, the Lido.
Danindenver ( talk) 09:41, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
Yes, I have expanded the line that mentions Lansbury's Lido to reference the location in London's Hyde Park. -- Jonathan Rackowe 82.153.70.205 ( talk) 10:37, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
I think considerably more information is needed about his attitude to the first world war, the supremen political test of the time. The Daily Herald did not campaign consistently against British war objectives, unless I am mistaken... Johncmullen1960 ( talk) 08:24, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
This will happen over the next few weeks. The article will, for a while, look decidedly lopsided, but all will come out right in the end. Suggestions for further improvements, sources etc are welcome, for discussion here. Brianboulton ( talk) 16:00, 11 February 2013 (UTC)
Why is he notable? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.151.65.218 ( talk) 16:56, 15 August 2013 (UTC)
I have removed the following images, recently added to the article:
The images lack proper source and authorrship details. In each case the author is given as the "LSE library", which is obviously not correct. Also the licence, which claims PD in the USA on the grounds of original publication before 1923, is clearly wrong when the events depicted in the images date from 1929, 1935 and 1936 respectively. Please do not re-add the images until their PD status has been properly established through author, source and appropriate licence. Brianboulton ( talk) 23:49, 12 September 2014 (UTC)
I recently removed Category:British pacifists and Category:British socialists from the article as they seem to be redundant to Category:English Christian pacifists and Category:English Christian socialists respectively. Having been reverted by AusLondonder, I figured I would open a discussion here.
WP:SUBCAT provides that:
A page or category should rarely be placed in both a category and a subcategory or parent category (supercategory) of that category (unless the child category is non-diffusing – see below – or eponymous). For example, the article "Paris" need only be placed in "Category:Cities in France", not in both " Category:Cities in France" and " Category:Populated places in France". Because the first category (cities) is in the second category (populated places), readers are already given the information that Paris is a populated place in France by it being a city in France.
I imagine it is for this reason that the article is not in Category:European pacifists and Category:European socialists. So I'm not clear on what rationale there could be for keeping the Category:British pacifists and Category:British socialists. Graham ( talk) 00:10, 23 January 2016 (UTC)
An IP is attempting to enlarge the infobox by re-inserting the details od "preceded by" and "succeeded by" in the various offices Lansbury held. These do not constitute "key facts" in Lansbury's career. If the IP has an issue with this interpretation of MoS regarding infoboxes, please bring the debate here. Brianboulton ( talk) 10:29, 15 September 2016 (UTC)
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I discovered the other day that Lansbury is Labour's only leader to have never contested a general election - notwithstanding acting leaders and the incumbent, whose tenure has not finished. User:Tim riley reverted the addition of this fact to the article lead, but did not seem to mind it being in the section about Lansbury's leadership of the party. I added it back to the lead, and posted this on Tim's Usertalk page:
John Smith (Labour Party leader) is probably turning in his grave. FDW777 ( talk) 15:25, 1 June 2021 (UTC)
I agree with Tim riley that the factoid should not appear in the LEAD section, especially since it is not unique. Obviously, all facts must be cited in WP:Reliable sources, per WP:V. As Tim noted, if we cannot find a citation for for a factoid, it is usually because the authors of the sources on the topic didn't find it important enough to mention. Even the assertion about him "thus" contesting no general elections is WP:synthesis, and the use of three references to support it underlines this fault. I've left that in, for now, but hidden the second, uncited factoid. -- Ssilvers ( talk) 18:23, 1 June 2021 (UTC)
FDW777, so forgive my lack of familiarity with John Smith (and I can't get to the source cited). Are you saying this edit needs to be reverted? —valereee ( talk) 13:15, 2 June 2021 (UTC)
@ Tim riley, would you be able to explain how the line: "...he spent his political life campaigning against established authority and vested interests..." is 1.) Supported by the sources and 2.) adheres to the principle of NPOV? Are the concepts of "established authorities" and "vested interests" objective terms in your mind? Alssa1 ( talk) 23:10, 11 October 2022 (UTC)