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The current edit isn't so much a bio piece as a hagiography. I agree that George Johnson was a good administrator and all, but ... come on.
I'm putting up this notice to remind myself that it needs to be changed. CJCurrie 00:49, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
The writer CJ Currie is singularly uninformed about Manitoba politics and the achievements of Dr. Johnson. To call a man with a legacy like Dr. Johnson's a 'good administrator' is a an insulting and patronizing put-down by somebody who is clearly biased against Dr. Johnson (and own't admit it). (Indeed, in an earlier version, this same CJCurrie took pains to diminish Dr. Johnson by pointing out that Dr. Johnson did not win the leadership of the Manitoba PC Party, even citing the number of votes he received.) The achievements of Dr. Johnson, as cited in the revised biography, are accurate and because of these achievements, he was indeed one of the most important politicians in Manitoba in the twentieth century. The implementation of medicare in Manitoba stands as the most important social and medical innovation in Manitoba history. This was managed by Dr. Johnson. The establishment of the Universities of Winnipeg and Brandon, and what is now Red River Community College, along with the expansion of the University of Manitoba and the implementation of 'shared services' in the schools, stand as the most important educational achievements in Manitoba in the twentieth century. These achievements were realized under Dr. Johnson's watch. I could go on and on about Dr. Johnson's achievements but I think I have proven my point. In the end, the revised bio of Dr. Johnson is fully accurate and it is a pity that uninformed amateur historians like CJCurrie want to distort history. As far as I am concerned, anything CJCurrie says should be considered disputable, given his apparent lack of knowledge of what he speaks. And the fact that he has to 'remind himself' that he should change the content (of what is now an accurate bio) does not speak well of his intellectual faculties. [unsigned]
With respect, I think you're taking this much too personally. I haven't "denigrated" Dr. Johnson's legacy by reporting that he finished fourth in the 1967 convention, nor was I intending to diminish his historical status in my original edit. I appreciate the additional information you've provided concerning his health and education reforms, although I also stand by my criticisms of your draft. It might surprise you to know that I have a fair bit of respect for Johnson's legacy; I simply don't want to turn this page into a promotional site.
I'll remove the NPOV notice for now, and edit the page in more detail later. CJCurrie 22:47, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
Mr. Currie: Any further 'edits' by you to the piece, as it now stands, will be reviewed by me for accuracy and fairness. The bio as it stands is hardly a 'promotional site'; indeed, it is far too parsimonious in its recounting of Dr. Johnson's legacy. Still, I can live with it as it stands, but it does not need any more editing by you. I will be watching. And I am not taking this personally; I am merely trying to get you to be fair and not so patronizing in your comments. You denigrated Dr. Johnson's legacy by contemptuously referring to him as merely a "good administrator" in your first bio article. (And now you are saying that this wasn't a put down. So much for your purported objectivity.) There is a colossal difference, sir, between a good adminstrator and a man of ideas like Dr. Johnson who achieved substantive and historic policy achievements for Manitoba. In sum, the piece as it now stands does not need any more input from you. And by the way, as the self-appointed authority on Manitoba politics, perhaps you could tell me what your academic and political credentials are, given the way you have treated Dr. Johnson and other Manitoba politicians. I really don't think you know much. -Jimmyu, November 21, 2006
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The current edit isn't so much a bio piece as a hagiography. I agree that George Johnson was a good administrator and all, but ... come on.
I'm putting up this notice to remind myself that it needs to be changed. CJCurrie 00:49, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
The writer CJ Currie is singularly uninformed about Manitoba politics and the achievements of Dr. Johnson. To call a man with a legacy like Dr. Johnson's a 'good administrator' is a an insulting and patronizing put-down by somebody who is clearly biased against Dr. Johnson (and own't admit it). (Indeed, in an earlier version, this same CJCurrie took pains to diminish Dr. Johnson by pointing out that Dr. Johnson did not win the leadership of the Manitoba PC Party, even citing the number of votes he received.) The achievements of Dr. Johnson, as cited in the revised biography, are accurate and because of these achievements, he was indeed one of the most important politicians in Manitoba in the twentieth century. The implementation of medicare in Manitoba stands as the most important social and medical innovation in Manitoba history. This was managed by Dr. Johnson. The establishment of the Universities of Winnipeg and Brandon, and what is now Red River Community College, along with the expansion of the University of Manitoba and the implementation of 'shared services' in the schools, stand as the most important educational achievements in Manitoba in the twentieth century. These achievements were realized under Dr. Johnson's watch. I could go on and on about Dr. Johnson's achievements but I think I have proven my point. In the end, the revised bio of Dr. Johnson is fully accurate and it is a pity that uninformed amateur historians like CJCurrie want to distort history. As far as I am concerned, anything CJCurrie says should be considered disputable, given his apparent lack of knowledge of what he speaks. And the fact that he has to 'remind himself' that he should change the content (of what is now an accurate bio) does not speak well of his intellectual faculties. [unsigned]
With respect, I think you're taking this much too personally. I haven't "denigrated" Dr. Johnson's legacy by reporting that he finished fourth in the 1967 convention, nor was I intending to diminish his historical status in my original edit. I appreciate the additional information you've provided concerning his health and education reforms, although I also stand by my criticisms of your draft. It might surprise you to know that I have a fair bit of respect for Johnson's legacy; I simply don't want to turn this page into a promotional site.
I'll remove the NPOV notice for now, and edit the page in more detail later. CJCurrie 22:47, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
Mr. Currie: Any further 'edits' by you to the piece, as it now stands, will be reviewed by me for accuracy and fairness. The bio as it stands is hardly a 'promotional site'; indeed, it is far too parsimonious in its recounting of Dr. Johnson's legacy. Still, I can live with it as it stands, but it does not need any more editing by you. I will be watching. And I am not taking this personally; I am merely trying to get you to be fair and not so patronizing in your comments. You denigrated Dr. Johnson's legacy by contemptuously referring to him as merely a "good administrator" in your first bio article. (And now you are saying that this wasn't a put down. So much for your purported objectivity.) There is a colossal difference, sir, between a good adminstrator and a man of ideas like Dr. Johnson who achieved substantive and historic policy achievements for Manitoba. In sum, the piece as it now stands does not need any more input from you. And by the way, as the self-appointed authority on Manitoba politics, perhaps you could tell me what your academic and political credentials are, given the way you have treated Dr. Johnson and other Manitoba politicians. I really don't think you know much. -Jimmyu, November 21, 2006
This article was automatically assessed because at least one WikiProject had rated the article as start, and the rating on other projects was brought up to start class. BetacommandBot 15:50, 10 November 2007 (UTC)