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I just reverted a couple of edits from an unregistered user who wanted to include a couple of incidental statements that Hrab made on a recent podcast. I know that Wikipedia does not like to use podcasts and blogs as a source although it is hard to avoid them when the subject of the article is well known for blogging or podcasting. Is there a rule of thumb about how much detail from his own life we will include in the article if the source is his own podcast? Allecher ( talk) 18:28, 4 November 2011 (UTC)
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Without intending any disrespect, I wonder if this article's level of detail does not match the subject's importance. The article was overwhelmingly written, and appears to be continually edited, by one user, Krelnik ( Tim Farley); although Farley is clearly an important Wikipedia contributor (and I pretty clearly am not), he is also obviously a big fan, and possibly friend, of Hrab.
Here are some of the reasons I believe the length and tone of this article are not presently appropriate:
In General
There are lots of other little touches that just seem out of place in a Wikipedia article: the quotations, parentheticals like "(a segment of one of the programs is available on Hrab's website)," an overabundance of quirky pictures, and weird little details like "In the summer of 2011, Hrab revealed on his podcast that he is allergic to penicillin."
Music
Awards
It is worth looking a little more closely at the listed awards; at first glance they seem notable but few actually are:
Podcasts
I'm not sure where Wikipedians draw the line on self-promotion, neutrality, and notability, but look through the citations here. There are basically three kinds of sources relied upon in this article: region-specific news (e.g. The Morning Call, a Lehigh Valley outlet that is inaccessible behind a paywall), the "Skeptic" community (largely other "bubble" figures as he appears to be), and Hrab's own website and podcast (referenced a fanatical 98 times - I counted).
And - sincerely! - my point here is not to attack Hrab or Farley. I just think this article misses the mark. Its length and level of detail, to me, imply that Hrab is much more notable than public sources demonstrate. Interested to hear what others think. Theturbolemming ( talk) 19:05, 15 April 2022 (UTC)
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I just reverted a couple of edits from an unregistered user who wanted to include a couple of incidental statements that Hrab made on a recent podcast. I know that Wikipedia does not like to use podcasts and blogs as a source although it is hard to avoid them when the subject of the article is well known for blogging or podcasting. Is there a rule of thumb about how much detail from his own life we will include in the article if the source is his own podcast? Allecher ( talk) 18:28, 4 November 2011 (UTC)
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Without intending any disrespect, I wonder if this article's level of detail does not match the subject's importance. The article was overwhelmingly written, and appears to be continually edited, by one user, Krelnik ( Tim Farley); although Farley is clearly an important Wikipedia contributor (and I pretty clearly am not), he is also obviously a big fan, and possibly friend, of Hrab.
Here are some of the reasons I believe the length and tone of this article are not presently appropriate:
In General
There are lots of other little touches that just seem out of place in a Wikipedia article: the quotations, parentheticals like "(a segment of one of the programs is available on Hrab's website)," an overabundance of quirky pictures, and weird little details like "In the summer of 2011, Hrab revealed on his podcast that he is allergic to penicillin."
Music
Awards
It is worth looking a little more closely at the listed awards; at first glance they seem notable but few actually are:
Podcasts
I'm not sure where Wikipedians draw the line on self-promotion, neutrality, and notability, but look through the citations here. There are basically three kinds of sources relied upon in this article: region-specific news (e.g. The Morning Call, a Lehigh Valley outlet that is inaccessible behind a paywall), the "Skeptic" community (largely other "bubble" figures as he appears to be), and Hrab's own website and podcast (referenced a fanatical 98 times - I counted).
And - sincerely! - my point here is not to attack Hrab or Farley. I just think this article misses the mark. Its length and level of detail, to me, imply that Hrab is much more notable than public sources demonstrate. Interested to hear what others think. Theturbolemming ( talk) 19:05, 15 April 2022 (UTC)