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The author of this article arbitrary decided the german scholars of Geopolitics are a "different kind of beast" and their discipline of study is infact a different one , hence he labeled it "Geopolitik" which is just merely the german translation of the word "Geopolitics". I said "arbitrary" because I don't see any study supporting this bizarre and and unique theory, most certainly there is no clear references justifying it. Infact it's the personal believe of the author; problem is encyclopedias are summaries of extant scholarship not stages to exercise our personal unorthodox and in some cases ineducate ideas. There is clearly a political purpose behind all this, which is to deal with the alleged connections between National Socialism and some pivotal geopolitical ideas. To "shield Geopolitic from certain implications, the author decided to sacrifice a branch of it, manifacturing this deceiving scheme, and bending the truth to his purpose. Infact, even if every country had his own specific interpretation of the discipline their works, and scholars influenced eachother, crossing back and forth. There would be no Mackinder without Ratzel, and no Haushofer without Mackinder.. infact the term "Geopolitics" and many of it's implications wouldn't even exist without Rudolf Kjellén himself. The ideology of Adolf Hitler is connected with the ideas of these men just as much as any leadership is the expression of the culture they rapresent. Writing on top of the entry "Not to be confused with Geopolitics" goes even further: it takes a stance that once again has little or nothing to do with sharing informations. But the author has done much more than that: he went as far as editing every single german geopolitics scholar named in this entry and replacing any reference to the term geopolitics with geopolitik, making difficult for the anyone trying to connect the articles. Althoughts they are named in the "Geopolitics" article which he couldn't probably edit without a fight, and since he has no defendable cause he didn't take it. Now I believe this article should be deleted entirely since the "geopolitics" page already mentions those authors and in a correct and comprehensive way.
Ialkarn ( talk) 23:42, 9 March 2022 (UTC)
As far as I - as a German - know, the term Geopolitik is not used with this completely negative meaning in Germany, but instead just like "geostrategy". I believe this should be mentioned in the article to avoid confusion when reading German texts. 62.227.183.91 ( talk) 11:28, 27 February 2010 (UTC)
This article is highly pov and biased. The links made between the political geographers and the Nazi regime are re-purpotrating myths of Allied demonization of geopolitics. This paragraphy alone says it all:
'Its defining charcteristic, differentiating it from American, British, French or other schools of geopolitics, is the inclusion of organic state theory, and a clash of civilizations informed by Social Darwinism. It is perhaps the closest of any school of geostrategy to a purely nationalistic conception of geostrategy, lacking more universal elements'.
This is nonesense. In developing many of its theories, such as clash of civilzations - a term coined by an 1980s american geopolitician - it drew on British and other thought, from people such as Mackinder and some Swedish guy who's name escpaes me.
I don't, unfortunately, have the time at the moment to give to this article, but I do intend to clean it up if no one else does. In paticular, I think:
Like I say, I'm happy to edit the article myself, but this is one of the most pov on Wikipedia at the moment and I don't have time (and possibly the full requisit knowledge) to do it myself. Robdurbar 18:09, 18 April 2006 (UTC)
I've made a few changes to the intro, but I still think that this article is misguided in that it is trying to describe german nationalist policy and a school of geopolitical thought at the same time. Though the two were clearly linked, they cannot be reduced to a whole either; I would suggest splitting the article into two (and its 56KB anyway, so a split isnt that bad an idea). At the moment the main body of the article is trying to tell these two stories at once. Robdurbar 16:01, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
Just asking.
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The author of this article arbitrary decided the german scholars of Geopolitics are a "different kind of beast" and their discipline of study is infact a different one , hence he labeled it "Geopolitik" which is just merely the german translation of the word "Geopolitics". I said "arbitrary" because I don't see any study supporting this bizarre and and unique theory, most certainly there is no clear references justifying it. Infact it's the personal believe of the author; problem is encyclopedias are summaries of extant scholarship not stages to exercise our personal unorthodox and in some cases ineducate ideas. There is clearly a political purpose behind all this, which is to deal with the alleged connections between National Socialism and some pivotal geopolitical ideas. To "shield Geopolitic from certain implications, the author decided to sacrifice a branch of it, manifacturing this deceiving scheme, and bending the truth to his purpose. Infact, even if every country had his own specific interpretation of the discipline their works, and scholars influenced eachother, crossing back and forth. There would be no Mackinder without Ratzel, and no Haushofer without Mackinder.. infact the term "Geopolitics" and many of it's implications wouldn't even exist without Rudolf Kjellén himself. The ideology of Adolf Hitler is connected with the ideas of these men just as much as any leadership is the expression of the culture they rapresent. Writing on top of the entry "Not to be confused with Geopolitics" goes even further: it takes a stance that once again has little or nothing to do with sharing informations. But the author has done much more than that: he went as far as editing every single german geopolitics scholar named in this entry and replacing any reference to the term geopolitics with geopolitik, making difficult for the anyone trying to connect the articles. Althoughts they are named in the "Geopolitics" article which he couldn't probably edit without a fight, and since he has no defendable cause he didn't take it. Now I believe this article should be deleted entirely since the "geopolitics" page already mentions those authors and in a correct and comprehensive way.
Ialkarn ( talk) 23:42, 9 March 2022 (UTC)
As far as I - as a German - know, the term Geopolitik is not used with this completely negative meaning in Germany, but instead just like "geostrategy". I believe this should be mentioned in the article to avoid confusion when reading German texts. 62.227.183.91 ( talk) 11:28, 27 February 2010 (UTC)
This article is highly pov and biased. The links made between the political geographers and the Nazi regime are re-purpotrating myths of Allied demonization of geopolitics. This paragraphy alone says it all:
'Its defining charcteristic, differentiating it from American, British, French or other schools of geopolitics, is the inclusion of organic state theory, and a clash of civilizations informed by Social Darwinism. It is perhaps the closest of any school of geostrategy to a purely nationalistic conception of geostrategy, lacking more universal elements'.
This is nonesense. In developing many of its theories, such as clash of civilzations - a term coined by an 1980s american geopolitician - it drew on British and other thought, from people such as Mackinder and some Swedish guy who's name escpaes me.
I don't, unfortunately, have the time at the moment to give to this article, but I do intend to clean it up if no one else does. In paticular, I think:
Like I say, I'm happy to edit the article myself, but this is one of the most pov on Wikipedia at the moment and I don't have time (and possibly the full requisit knowledge) to do it myself. Robdurbar 18:09, 18 April 2006 (UTC)
I've made a few changes to the intro, but I still think that this article is misguided in that it is trying to describe german nationalist policy and a school of geopolitical thought at the same time. Though the two were clearly linked, they cannot be reduced to a whole either; I would suggest splitting the article into two (and its 56KB anyway, so a split isnt that bad an idea). At the moment the main body of the article is trying to tell these two stories at once. Robdurbar 16:01, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
Just asking.
T
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