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The truth of these assertions is hardly self-evident! The second implies that, if you're not a landowner, you are (or ought to be) completely indifferent to whether or not property (such as your bank account) is protected. — Tamfang ( talk) 01:37, 17 August 2009 (UTC)
I am not an economics expert, but is it true that there is no deadweight loss in that graph? Look at the triangle to the right of the "tax" square, with the dotted line forming the bottom of the triangle, the supply line forming the left side, and the demand curve forming the hypotenuse. Is that not deadweight loss?
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Get busy. CarolMooreDC ( talk) 17:30, 18 June 2010 (UTC)
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Unfortunately, this article talk page is WP:NOT#FORUM for your personal education. If/when you have a point that you want to make about the article's contents, and you want to present the reliable sources that make your point, please feel free to do so. BigK HeX ( talk) 12:17, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
It says in the side bar that this is part on a series on anarchism. However, it says that you pay rent for the protection of your claim by government. Where is the anarchist part? How can it be anarchist if it's not even anti-state?-- Sharangir ( talk) 12:34, 18 June 2012 (UTC)
Geolibertarianism's political movement? Where? 188.222.174.61 ( talk) 23:44, 11 June 2013 (UTC)
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The article incorrectly claimed that David Nolan was a geolibertarian. That is incorrect. He stated that a single tax on land would be the "least destructive" of all taxes but that is not an endorsement, but merely a lesser of evils statement. He clearly stated that his ultimate position was no taxation, including any taxes on land. It could be said fairly that he would have preferred that to the system we now have, but that does not make him a geolibertarian. I would love to see evidence to the contrary and with proof would revise my statement. Libertarian Party history is somewhat my wheelhouse as I am the present custodian of all of the party historical archives, am an adminstrator of LPedia, and am current Chair of the Libertarian Party Historical Committee. As of yet, I have found no evidence to substantiate this oft-made claim. The only statement that is preferred is the one cited above or generally sympathies as being better than income tax. I think a lot of things might be better than income tax. That doesn't make me believe that the lesser evils are justified. Carynannharlos ( talk) 06:26, 23 August 2017 (UTC)
I would like to start a discussion about this article and see what can be improved. First of all, what is geolibertarianism and what does the article actually speaks of? Is it talking about the so-called left-libertarianism as in the Steiner–Vallentyne school? Or is it simply talking about American-style libertarianism/right-libertarianism with geoist views about land and rent? To me it seems to be the latter and the term was perhaps used to refer to this version, but in practice the name better describe the Steiner–Vallentyne school since it isn't actually left-libertarian (socialist), but rather believes land is common property. Also, what are the geolibertarian views of private ownership of industry? I have no doubt that right-libertarian geoism support it, but what about other variants, if there're any? Why shouldn't the same criticism that geoism apply to land not also apply to industry? Why would a geoist oppose the monopolisation of land, but not that of industry? Perhaps because industry wasn't as developed as it is today, but the question remains. Industry is just as important as land, so why should any individual be denied access or ownership (whether individually or collectively)? Surely, having a minority holding much land or industry while the majority doesn't would be considered a violation of the law of equal liberty. Do geolibertarians care more about human rights, or efficiency? Otherwhise why would they support the autocracy and tyranny in the workplace? Any inefficiency caused by the democratisation wouldn't be enough to justify the tyranny of the workplace. After all, any inefficiency could be resolved without resorting to autocracy. Finally, how "justice of private property [...] derived from an individual's right to the fruits of his or her labor" doesn't result in workers owning their own industry, whether individually or collectively?-- 87.17.95.218 ( talk) 23:54, 3 August 2019 (UTC)
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The truth of these assertions is hardly self-evident! The second implies that, if you're not a landowner, you are (or ought to be) completely indifferent to whether or not property (such as your bank account) is protected. — Tamfang ( talk) 01:37, 17 August 2009 (UTC)
I am not an economics expert, but is it true that there is no deadweight loss in that graph? Look at the triangle to the right of the "tax" square, with the dotted line forming the bottom of the triangle, the supply line forming the left side, and the demand curve forming the hypotenuse. Is that not deadweight loss?
Some can be added as links for now. The tags should be removed.
Get busy. CarolMooreDC ( talk) 17:30, 18 June 2010 (UTC)
Darkstar1st ( talk) 12:06, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
Unfortunately, this article talk page is WP:NOT#FORUM for your personal education. If/when you have a point that you want to make about the article's contents, and you want to present the reliable sources that make your point, please feel free to do so. BigK HeX ( talk) 12:17, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
It says in the side bar that this is part on a series on anarchism. However, it says that you pay rent for the protection of your claim by government. Where is the anarchist part? How can it be anarchist if it's not even anti-state?-- Sharangir ( talk) 12:34, 18 June 2012 (UTC)
Geolibertarianism's political movement? Where? 188.222.174.61 ( talk) 23:44, 11 June 2013 (UTC)
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The article incorrectly claimed that David Nolan was a geolibertarian. That is incorrect. He stated that a single tax on land would be the "least destructive" of all taxes but that is not an endorsement, but merely a lesser of evils statement. He clearly stated that his ultimate position was no taxation, including any taxes on land. It could be said fairly that he would have preferred that to the system we now have, but that does not make him a geolibertarian. I would love to see evidence to the contrary and with proof would revise my statement. Libertarian Party history is somewhat my wheelhouse as I am the present custodian of all of the party historical archives, am an adminstrator of LPedia, and am current Chair of the Libertarian Party Historical Committee. As of yet, I have found no evidence to substantiate this oft-made claim. The only statement that is preferred is the one cited above or generally sympathies as being better than income tax. I think a lot of things might be better than income tax. That doesn't make me believe that the lesser evils are justified. Carynannharlos ( talk) 06:26, 23 August 2017 (UTC)
I would like to start a discussion about this article and see what can be improved. First of all, what is geolibertarianism and what does the article actually speaks of? Is it talking about the so-called left-libertarianism as in the Steiner–Vallentyne school? Or is it simply talking about American-style libertarianism/right-libertarianism with geoist views about land and rent? To me it seems to be the latter and the term was perhaps used to refer to this version, but in practice the name better describe the Steiner–Vallentyne school since it isn't actually left-libertarian (socialist), but rather believes land is common property. Also, what are the geolibertarian views of private ownership of industry? I have no doubt that right-libertarian geoism support it, but what about other variants, if there're any? Why shouldn't the same criticism that geoism apply to land not also apply to industry? Why would a geoist oppose the monopolisation of land, but not that of industry? Perhaps because industry wasn't as developed as it is today, but the question remains. Industry is just as important as land, so why should any individual be denied access or ownership (whether individually or collectively)? Surely, having a minority holding much land or industry while the majority doesn't would be considered a violation of the law of equal liberty. Do geolibertarians care more about human rights, or efficiency? Otherwhise why would they support the autocracy and tyranny in the workplace? Any inefficiency caused by the democratisation wouldn't be enough to justify the tyranny of the workplace. After all, any inefficiency could be resolved without resorting to autocracy. Finally, how "justice of private property [...] derived from an individual's right to the fruits of his or her labor" doesn't result in workers owning their own industry, whether individually or collectively?-- 87.17.95.218 ( talk) 23:54, 3 August 2019 (UTC)