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The article on Plethon says "While in Florence [that is, 1438] Plethon wrote De Differentiis, a description of the differences between Plato's and Aristotle's conceptions of God. Scholarios **later** defended Aristotle and convinced emperor Manuel II Palaeologus that Plethon's support for Plato amounted to heresy." But Manuel died in 1425!
Something wrong here!
1) Changed "pseudo-polytheistic" to "eclectic polytheistic" 2) added a link on a decent UofOklahoma paper on De Differentiis 3) and one of the pleiad of modern Greek works on him. 4) Also added this, from same:"In 1466 some of his Italian disciples, headed by Sigismondo Malatesta, stole his remains from Mistra and interred them in the Tempio Malatestiano in Rimini, "so that the great Teacher may be among free men". 5) Further ammended the following to indicate that it was not simply a copy burned in protest but the original and only extant version that was destroyed: "and its contents lost to mankind."
It seems a little odd to jump from his imprisonment to his travels west. Do we know why the next emperor (I assume) took a different view of his "heresy"? Dan 01:18, 16 June 2007 (UTC)
Does anyone know where any of Pletho's works can be found online? It would be a nice addition to the article and would allow more people to make helpful contributions to the article. I can't find anything except for books about his works, books about books about his works, and articles about those. As old as this guy is, there has to be something of his in the public domain. Ian.thomson ( talk) 14:45, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
The supposed portrait by Gozzoli is problematic speculation. By now there is no authentic portrait. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 178.200.0.27 ( talk) 21:40, 16 November 2016 (UTC)
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Here's the Wiki image of the ancient Plato:
/info/en/?search=Plato#/media/File:Plato_Silanion_Musei_Capitolini_MC1377.jpg
And here's the Wiki image of the Mediaeval Gemisthus Pletho:
/info/en/?search=Gemistus_Pletho#/media/File:Benozzo_Gozzoli,_Pletone,_Cappella_dei_Magi.jpg
The two men have remarkably similar biographies. Both wrote extensively on the exact same subjects. Yet the 15th century Pletho's writings have nearly all disappeared, whereas the ancient Plato's have largely survived.
This article needs to incorporate information which suggests that Plato and Pletho are one and the same, and where only split in two in the latter 16th century. it would benefit the article greatly. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 197.88.60.150 ( talk) 11:58, 7 May 2017 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: moved to Gemistos Plethon. ( closed by non-admin page mover) Extraordinary Writ ( talk) 17:56, 3 February 2022 (UTC)
Gemistus Pletho →
Georgios Gemistos Plethon – As per
WP:COMMONNAME, the name "Gemistus Pletho" gives 1.5k results
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Othon I (
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( ←) Indeed, "Gemistos Plethon" is even more frequent. Thanks for pointing this out. Othon I ( talk) 17:14, 21 January 2022 (UTC)
Is there a webpage, that has the essay On Virtues (Περί ἀρετῶν) by Mr. Gemistos? Apisite ( talk) 13:10, 7 August 2022 (UTC)
Here's one webpage found: http://www.academyofathens.gr/el/node/2030 -- Apisite ( talk) 13:13, 7 August 2022 (UTC)
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The article on Plethon says "While in Florence [that is, 1438] Plethon wrote De Differentiis, a description of the differences between Plato's and Aristotle's conceptions of God. Scholarios **later** defended Aristotle and convinced emperor Manuel II Palaeologus that Plethon's support for Plato amounted to heresy." But Manuel died in 1425!
Something wrong here!
1) Changed "pseudo-polytheistic" to "eclectic polytheistic" 2) added a link on a decent UofOklahoma paper on De Differentiis 3) and one of the pleiad of modern Greek works on him. 4) Also added this, from same:"In 1466 some of his Italian disciples, headed by Sigismondo Malatesta, stole his remains from Mistra and interred them in the Tempio Malatestiano in Rimini, "so that the great Teacher may be among free men". 5) Further ammended the following to indicate that it was not simply a copy burned in protest but the original and only extant version that was destroyed: "and its contents lost to mankind."
It seems a little odd to jump from his imprisonment to his travels west. Do we know why the next emperor (I assume) took a different view of his "heresy"? Dan 01:18, 16 June 2007 (UTC)
Does anyone know where any of Pletho's works can be found online? It would be a nice addition to the article and would allow more people to make helpful contributions to the article. I can't find anything except for books about his works, books about books about his works, and articles about those. As old as this guy is, there has to be something of his in the public domain. Ian.thomson ( talk) 14:45, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
The supposed portrait by Gozzoli is problematic speculation. By now there is no authentic portrait. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 178.200.0.27 ( talk) 21:40, 16 November 2016 (UTC)
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Here's the Wiki image of the ancient Plato:
/info/en/?search=Plato#/media/File:Plato_Silanion_Musei_Capitolini_MC1377.jpg
And here's the Wiki image of the Mediaeval Gemisthus Pletho:
/info/en/?search=Gemistus_Pletho#/media/File:Benozzo_Gozzoli,_Pletone,_Cappella_dei_Magi.jpg
The two men have remarkably similar biographies. Both wrote extensively on the exact same subjects. Yet the 15th century Pletho's writings have nearly all disappeared, whereas the ancient Plato's have largely survived.
This article needs to incorporate information which suggests that Plato and Pletho are one and the same, and where only split in two in the latter 16th century. it would benefit the article greatly. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 197.88.60.150 ( talk) 11:58, 7 May 2017 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: moved to Gemistos Plethon. ( closed by non-admin page mover) Extraordinary Writ ( talk) 17:56, 3 February 2022 (UTC)
Gemistus Pletho →
Georgios Gemistos Plethon – As per
WP:COMMONNAME, the name "Gemistus Pletho" gives 1.5k results
[1] and the name "Georgios Gemistos Plethon" gives 3.2k results
[2].
Othon I (
talk) 13:34, 20 January 2022 (UTC) — Relisting. —
Amakuru (
talk)
16:23, 27 January 2022 (UTC)
( ←) Indeed, "Gemistos Plethon" is even more frequent. Thanks for pointing this out. Othon I ( talk) 17:14, 21 January 2022 (UTC)
Is there a webpage, that has the essay On Virtues (Περί ἀρετῶν) by Mr. Gemistos? Apisite ( talk) 13:10, 7 August 2022 (UTC)
Here's one webpage found: http://www.academyofathens.gr/el/node/2030 -- Apisite ( talk) 13:13, 7 August 2022 (UTC)