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The statement that he played for Olney Rangers at Walter Johnson is incorrect. Olney Rangers is a club team, Walter Johnson is a school. He played for the school team separately from the club team. I can't fix it because the article is protected. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 204.227.241.38 ( talk) 17:56, 28 January 2014 (UTC)
(1) He is Ethiopian by birth because both of his parents were Ethiopian (jus sanguinis); cf. the Ethiopian constitution 6.1: "Any person with one or both parents of Ethiopian citizenship is an Ethiopian. Particulars shall be determined by law." Cf. Ethiopian nationality law 1.1: "Any person born in Ethiopia or abroad, whose father or mother is Ethiopian, is an Ethiopian subject."
(2a) He is German not by jus soli, but only by provisional naturalization, because he was born in Germany before 1 Jan 2000, i.e. he applied for and received German citizenship, being eligible because on 1 Jan 2000 he was a permanent resident and wasn't yet 10 years of age; cf. German national law 40b.
(2b) The naturalization is provisional, because between the age of 18 and 23 Zelalem must decide whether he wants to renounce his Ethiopian citizenship and keep his German citizenship, or whether he wants to be an Ethiopian; in the latter case he would automatically lose German citizenship, at the latest at age 23; cf. German Nationality Law 29.
(2c) If he loses his German citizenship, he could always re-apply under the fast-track naturalization option for top athletes; cf. German discretionary naturalization.
(3a) When he comes of age he can become a US citizen only by naturalization, as long as he meets the legal requirements, which is impossible for a professional footballer playing in Europe; cf. US nationality law, eligibility.
(3b) I don't know of any fast-track program for US naturalization, which exists in other countries, e.g. in Germany (see above).
(3c) He could immediately become a US citizen by co-naturalization as a minor, when at least one of his parents becomes a US citizen. If his parents are eligible, i.e. if they meet the requirements, e.g. permanent residency in the US for several years, then it would be very easy for Zelalem to naturalize, as long as he is under the age of 18.
Conclusion: At the moment he is an Ethiopian subject and citizen, and a provisional German citizen. (He is a U.S citizen as of April 11, 2024(
-- 92.225.128.169 ( talk) 15:28, 26 March 2014 (UTC)
Lukeno94 — Your recent editing actions are at odds with a number of reliable sources. Judging by your comments, I'm guessing you don't regularly read soccer articles from American media. Grant Wahl of Sports Illustrated and Steven Goff of the Washington Post are two of the top soccer reporters in the U.S.; you shouldn't be deleting accurate content supported by high-quality sources such as SI and the Post. Furthermore, there is an this article on MLSsoccer.com and a statement from the head of U.S. Soccer discussing Zelalem's new American citizenship. I'm glad you are removing inaccurate material (he's not eligible to play for the U.S. yet), but in your desire to keep the page in its current state, you are improperly deleting accurate material backed by solid sources. I think you ought to consider taking a short break here; it seems that you might have become perhaps a bit too entrenched in your position, and in shows in your edit warring actions. Barryjjoyce ( talk) 04:40, 1 January 2015 (UTC)
Lukeno94
(tell Luke off here) — I am glad we have identified some limited areas of agreement. I will perform some limited edits then, and we can talk further. I still think you are taking an unnecessarily strict interpretation of verifiability. I am not aware of any wiki policy requiring that published reliable sources must be backed in turn by reliable sources that are explicit in the published article. According to
WP:RS and
Wikipedia:Verifiability#Reliable_sources, the publication is determined to be reliable if the published material is the product of a "reliable publication process," and reputable publications such as the Washington Post and Sports Illustrated clearly meet that standard.
I am hopeful we can resolve this amicably. To that end, if you think my future edits are questionable, please use the talk page and try to refrain from reverting. Your edits
here,
here, and
here demonstrate a pattern of reverting edits that contained accurate, sourced information, which some editors could view as potentially violating
WP:3RR.
Barryjjoyce (
talk) 17:43, 1 January 2015 (UTC)
Motions to indicate Zelalem is American are correct (as of now). He's an eligible American footballer who has been granted his "one-time switch" by FIFA and has already debuted for the American U-20 team and is a part of the USA U20 World Cup squad. As a result, his Wikipedia bio should reflect his international affiliation as American. Anaychi ( talk) 18:31, 20 May 2015 (UTC) Anaychi
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The statement that he played for Olney Rangers at Walter Johnson is incorrect. Olney Rangers is a club team, Walter Johnson is a school. He played for the school team separately from the club team. I can't fix it because the article is protected. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 204.227.241.38 ( talk) 17:56, 28 January 2014 (UTC)
(1) He is Ethiopian by birth because both of his parents were Ethiopian (jus sanguinis); cf. the Ethiopian constitution 6.1: "Any person with one or both parents of Ethiopian citizenship is an Ethiopian. Particulars shall be determined by law." Cf. Ethiopian nationality law 1.1: "Any person born in Ethiopia or abroad, whose father or mother is Ethiopian, is an Ethiopian subject."
(2a) He is German not by jus soli, but only by provisional naturalization, because he was born in Germany before 1 Jan 2000, i.e. he applied for and received German citizenship, being eligible because on 1 Jan 2000 he was a permanent resident and wasn't yet 10 years of age; cf. German national law 40b.
(2b) The naturalization is provisional, because between the age of 18 and 23 Zelalem must decide whether he wants to renounce his Ethiopian citizenship and keep his German citizenship, or whether he wants to be an Ethiopian; in the latter case he would automatically lose German citizenship, at the latest at age 23; cf. German Nationality Law 29.
(2c) If he loses his German citizenship, he could always re-apply under the fast-track naturalization option for top athletes; cf. German discretionary naturalization.
(3a) When he comes of age he can become a US citizen only by naturalization, as long as he meets the legal requirements, which is impossible for a professional footballer playing in Europe; cf. US nationality law, eligibility.
(3b) I don't know of any fast-track program for US naturalization, which exists in other countries, e.g. in Germany (see above).
(3c) He could immediately become a US citizen by co-naturalization as a minor, when at least one of his parents becomes a US citizen. If his parents are eligible, i.e. if they meet the requirements, e.g. permanent residency in the US for several years, then it would be very easy for Zelalem to naturalize, as long as he is under the age of 18.
Conclusion: At the moment he is an Ethiopian subject and citizen, and a provisional German citizen. (He is a U.S citizen as of April 11, 2024(
-- 92.225.128.169 ( talk) 15:28, 26 March 2014 (UTC)
Lukeno94 — Your recent editing actions are at odds with a number of reliable sources. Judging by your comments, I'm guessing you don't regularly read soccer articles from American media. Grant Wahl of Sports Illustrated and Steven Goff of the Washington Post are two of the top soccer reporters in the U.S.; you shouldn't be deleting accurate content supported by high-quality sources such as SI and the Post. Furthermore, there is an this article on MLSsoccer.com and a statement from the head of U.S. Soccer discussing Zelalem's new American citizenship. I'm glad you are removing inaccurate material (he's not eligible to play for the U.S. yet), but in your desire to keep the page in its current state, you are improperly deleting accurate material backed by solid sources. I think you ought to consider taking a short break here; it seems that you might have become perhaps a bit too entrenched in your position, and in shows in your edit warring actions. Barryjjoyce ( talk) 04:40, 1 January 2015 (UTC)
Lukeno94
(tell Luke off here) — I am glad we have identified some limited areas of agreement. I will perform some limited edits then, and we can talk further. I still think you are taking an unnecessarily strict interpretation of verifiability. I am not aware of any wiki policy requiring that published reliable sources must be backed in turn by reliable sources that are explicit in the published article. According to
WP:RS and
Wikipedia:Verifiability#Reliable_sources, the publication is determined to be reliable if the published material is the product of a "reliable publication process," and reputable publications such as the Washington Post and Sports Illustrated clearly meet that standard.
I am hopeful we can resolve this amicably. To that end, if you think my future edits are questionable, please use the talk page and try to refrain from reverting. Your edits
here,
here, and
here demonstrate a pattern of reverting edits that contained accurate, sourced information, which some editors could view as potentially violating
WP:3RR.
Barryjjoyce (
talk) 17:43, 1 January 2015 (UTC)
Motions to indicate Zelalem is American are correct (as of now). He's an eligible American footballer who has been granted his "one-time switch" by FIFA and has already debuted for the American U-20 team and is a part of the USA U20 World Cup squad. As a result, his Wikipedia bio should reflect his international affiliation as American. Anaychi ( talk) 18:31, 20 May 2015 (UTC) Anaychi
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