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What does gasolina mean in the song? Looking at the english lyrics, it probably his sperm, but others say it means they like his car. Can anyone clairify(On my talk page please, I will probably forget about it later)? The Republican 23:28, 19 April 2006 (UTC)
who were the dancers in the music video? Jclf19k 07:28, 26 March 2007 (UTC)
I think it means sex, like how people say "want some hot coffee." Its like slang for sex. Patrolman89 ( talk) 20:12, 23 March 2008 (UTC)
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Following the removal of the Papa A.P. section by
Kartel King, I notified him that I did not agree with his changes made without discussion. I left this message :
"Hi Kartel King! I've reverted your change because you've removed a entire section without discussion. This can be considered as vandalism (by the way, the Papa AP section is sourced). Please, explain your opinion on the article talk page in order to find a conscensus, but refrain from removing this section. Sincerely,
Europe22 (
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21:40, 19 October 2008 (UTC)"
I reverted twice his changes, with the comments : "rv : restore the cover version by Papa AP" (1) and "Sorry, you remove a entire section without discussion" (2).
He answered on my talk page :
"Hi Europe22! I've reverted your change because you added a entire section without discussion which seems to be for no other purposes except promotion, see
Notability. Please explain your reason for this section's inclusion on the article talkpage and refrain from making any further reverts. Sincerely,
Kartel King (
talk)
22:58, 19 October 2008 (UTC)"
He reverted my changes twice with the following comments : "rv" (1), then "Please refrain from taking ownership and marking major edits as minor" (2).
I think we should keep this section because :
As a result, it meets WP:NM and can be included in the article. Europe22 ( talk) 23:40, 19 October 2008 (UTC)
To sum up the problem : I added a cover version on this article, as this version was recorded by a notable artist ( Papa A.P.), released as single, charted in several European countries (a top 20 hit in four of them), certified in one of them. All this was sourced and I added other ones from interviews of the singer. However, Kartel King removed the section three times and justified this deletion per WP:OR, WP:OWN, WP:NM and the fact this version was released illegally (although this assertion is not proved). For my part, I think this version is notable enough to warrant a section in the article, and removing it because of its supposed illegal release is not a good reason per WP:NOTCENSORED and WP:NPOV. As Kartel King removed for a third time this section without explanation and as I don't still agree with his arguments for deletion, I prefer to request a third opinion. Europe22 ( talk) 10:05, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
To sum up the problem: I removed an illegal version on this article which was recorded by a then unknown artist and released in Europe before the official release of the legitimate gasolina. This illegal version was recorded by a person known as "Papa A.P." whom until this dispute, did not even have his own article (That is of course until Europe22 made one). Europe22 however, has insisted on having this section included in the article re-adding it three times, and in one instance removing new information added to the article by myself, and justified this with WP:NOTCENSORED which has no relevancy at all to his argument, and the essay WP:POV which in my opinion he is in violation of. Europe22 has not one reference which states it is a " Cover" version legally released with authorisation from Daddy Yankee and wether he recieves royalties for it. The sourcing Europe22 used cannot be used as anecdotal evidence for WP:OR and as a result until a reference specifically stating this assertion can be provided this section is not warranted. The notability of "Papa A.P." is akin to the notability of someone who cheated in a marathon and one first place. So as Europe22 re-added this section for a third time without explanation and does not want to seem concede to this fact I think we should have the input of a third opinion. Kartel King ( talk) 05:21, 24 October 2008 (UTC)
(Unindent) Third party input: You're both correct.
Hey arimareiji. Thanks for your input into this dispute and offering an unbiased opinion on the issue. On the subject of the legality of an unauthorised copy you sound very knowledgeble which I could stubbornly argue with you over, but I must admit I do not know if there is a law making it illegal to violate copyright. I would just like to ask how you came to be aware of this as I would be interested in learning a bit more on this technicality. I mean if I was a famous artist and I had to personally take someone to court everytime they did a copy of one of my songs I would probably not bother with the hastle, but if it was illegal that would be a different story. P.S. I also do not think Papa A.P. or his copy of gasolina merit their own article even if he did have another charting single in Europe22's home-country of France, as it was riding off the success the copy gave him which hardly makes him deserving. Kartel King ( talk) 04:46, 25 October 2008 (UTC)
I've deleted the "3rd opinion requested" template from this page, because one has been provided. If the dispute continues, see
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Please keep in mind that most of these process steps assume that both parties are willing to accept outside input. If that's not the case, the last steps in the process will make it officially binding - but getting that far is a nasty affair for all concerned, and wastes a lot of time.
arimareiji (
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16:21, 25 October 2008 (UTC)
For reference, I blame you guys for the fact that I now keep hearing echoes of the "Macarena" refrain in my head, with Macarena replaced by Gasolina. So be civil, and don't do this to anyone else. ^_~ (Blame my ignorance as an outsider, in never having heard Gasolina) arimareiji ( talk) 18:13, 25 October 2008 (UTC)
Europe22 hasn't anyone ever told you it's rude to be impatient? I'm sorry if I chose to have a real life and enjoy my weekend as opposed to possesing over wikipedia waiting for a reply from you. I have now answered your question where you first asked it, btw you would not need to have asked it had you read the edit summary and viewed the history of the two revisions. Kartel King ( talk) 02:39, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
My comment on Kartel King talk page after his deletion of Papa A.P.'s version :
My reply to the new edit war Europe22 has decided to start:
My reply :
KK's reply :
The Papa A.P. version can be merged in this article or get its own article, it's not a problem for me. Europe22 ( talk) 08:03, 2 March 2009 (UTC)
You really need to find out what plagiarism means and I am in a better position then you so don't insult me. His plagiarism was not the reason for excluding the section from the article, and you very well know that! All this was discussed back in October and you know the results so stop trying to make me look bad, I do not appreciate it at all and I have been very patient with your constant putting of words in my mouth which do not represent my views. Stop doing it! It's not hard, Kartel King ( talk) 02:09, 4 March 2009 (UTC)
El cangri386's comment on arimareiji's talk page :
Hey arimareiji. I've got a major concern about two articles I'm dealing with on Wikipedia, which are Gasolina and Gasolina (Papa A.P. song). I've had a concern with a cover version of a song having its own article, when I felt it would be right to instead merge it with Gasolina since the writers of both version (one of them being Daddy Yankee himself) are the same. I've even used Respect (song) as an example for the subject of original artists and notable covers. I discussed this with Kartel King and Europe22 and this has turned into a major edit war that has lasted for a long time now. I was referred to you by Europe22, asking for a third opinion on my edits to both Gasolina and Gasolina (Papa A.P. song). I've redirected the Papa A.P. version to a section in the original Gasolina article (which I'm afraid will be reverted sometime later on again by Kartel King). Please reply soon. We need a third opinion! :) El cangri386 Sign! or Talk 21:59, 2 March 2009 (UTC)
arimareiji's reply :
I couldn't find any specific policies when I did a quick search, but there does seem to be community consensus for merging cover versions. Honestly, I suspected that might be true when I recommended a split back then, but thought a temporary split might serve as a bandage long enough for 1) Europe22 to dig up and write good material in peace, and 2) tempers to cool. Given that there's been ample time for both to occur, the best solution is the one you already implemented - re-merge.
The trouble is that, as you've already seen, Kartel King is apparently still bent on venting his personal opinion of Papa AP rather than sticking to sources. I'd recommend an RfC about it to bring in more eyes - but honestly, at this point it's up to Kartel King. If he's willing to bend to the existing consensus or find sources to back his wording (which would probably change consensus), that would be the best possible solution. If not, then it's probably going to turn into a
WP:3RR issue of variable speed, and it'll have to be taken up there. Sorry I couldn't be more help.
arimareiji (
talk)
00:03, 3 March 2009 (UTC)
The general rule of thumb is that cover versions of a song, even if they become more popular or better known than the original, all go in one article about the specific song. The article about the Papa A.P. version should be merged into this article. TheJazzDalek ( talk) 20:40, 15 March 2009 (UTC)
Having read more about the two songs, I don't see why two articles are needed. Daddy Yankee released his song in the US, then Papa AP released a cover version in Europe and had a hit with it there. So what? That sort of thing happens all the time, throughout the history of pop music. Throwing around words like plagiarism and ripoff and steal is ludicrous. Besides, there's not enough verifiable content from reliable sources in Gasolina (Papa A.P. song) to justify a whole 'nother article. TheJazzDalek ( talk) 19:15, 16 March 2009 (UTC)
Europe22 removed claims of platinum certification in the US and Australia, and rightly so. A check of the RIAA and ARIA databases show that the song was never certified (platinum or even gold, for that matter). Please do not re-add the claim without a verifiable reference from a reliable source. TheJazzDalek ( talk) 12:37, 29 March 2009 (UTC)
According to Wikipedia in Spanish, this song was released on February 7, 2004. Therefore the earlier date was incorrect and take me the liberty of correcting it. Biruxx ( talk) 01:57, 1 July 2016 (UTC)
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ResolutionsPerMinute, here's a Billboard source that says the single "impacted radio in October." It also says that radio station WPYO in Orlando, Florida, was playing the song in September, likely sourcing it from the album which was released in July. Binksternet ( talk) 17:25, 31 July 2022 (UTC)
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What does gasolina mean in the song? Looking at the english lyrics, it probably his sperm, but others say it means they like his car. Can anyone clairify(On my talk page please, I will probably forget about it later)? The Republican 23:28, 19 April 2006 (UTC)
who were the dancers in the music video? Jclf19k 07:28, 26 March 2007 (UTC)
I think it means sex, like how people say "want some hot coffee." Its like slang for sex. Patrolman89 ( talk) 20:12, 23 March 2008 (UTC)
Image:Daddy Yankee-Gasolina.jpg is being used on this article. I notice the image page specifies that the image is being used under fair use but there is no explanation or rationale as to why its use in this Wikipedia article constitutes fair use. In addition to the boilerplate fair use template, you must also write out on the image description page a specific explanation or rationale for why using this image in each article is consistent with fair use.
Please go to the image description page and edit it to include a fair use rationale. Using one of the templates at Wikipedia:Fair use rationale guideline is an easy way to insure that your image is in compliance with Wikipedia policy, but remember that you must complete the template. Do not simply insert a blank template on an image page.
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BetacommandBot ( talk) 07:17, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
Following the removal of the Papa A.P. section by
Kartel King, I notified him that I did not agree with his changes made without discussion. I left this message :
"Hi Kartel King! I've reverted your change because you've removed a entire section without discussion. This can be considered as vandalism (by the way, the Papa AP section is sourced). Please, explain your opinion on the article talk page in order to find a conscensus, but refrain from removing this section. Sincerely,
Europe22 (
talk)
21:40, 19 October 2008 (UTC)"
I reverted twice his changes, with the comments : "rv : restore the cover version by Papa AP" (1) and "Sorry, you remove a entire section without discussion" (2).
He answered on my talk page :
"Hi Europe22! I've reverted your change because you added a entire section without discussion which seems to be for no other purposes except promotion, see
Notability. Please explain your reason for this section's inclusion on the article talkpage and refrain from making any further reverts. Sincerely,
Kartel King (
talk)
22:58, 19 October 2008 (UTC)"
He reverted my changes twice with the following comments : "rv" (1), then "Please refrain from taking ownership and marking major edits as minor" (2).
I think we should keep this section because :
As a result, it meets WP:NM and can be included in the article. Europe22 ( talk) 23:40, 19 October 2008 (UTC)
To sum up the problem : I added a cover version on this article, as this version was recorded by a notable artist ( Papa A.P.), released as single, charted in several European countries (a top 20 hit in four of them), certified in one of them. All this was sourced and I added other ones from interviews of the singer. However, Kartel King removed the section three times and justified this deletion per WP:OR, WP:OWN, WP:NM and the fact this version was released illegally (although this assertion is not proved). For my part, I think this version is notable enough to warrant a section in the article, and removing it because of its supposed illegal release is not a good reason per WP:NOTCENSORED and WP:NPOV. As Kartel King removed for a third time this section without explanation and as I don't still agree with his arguments for deletion, I prefer to request a third opinion. Europe22 ( talk) 10:05, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
To sum up the problem: I removed an illegal version on this article which was recorded by a then unknown artist and released in Europe before the official release of the legitimate gasolina. This illegal version was recorded by a person known as "Papa A.P." whom until this dispute, did not even have his own article (That is of course until Europe22 made one). Europe22 however, has insisted on having this section included in the article re-adding it three times, and in one instance removing new information added to the article by myself, and justified this with WP:NOTCENSORED which has no relevancy at all to his argument, and the essay WP:POV which in my opinion he is in violation of. Europe22 has not one reference which states it is a " Cover" version legally released with authorisation from Daddy Yankee and wether he recieves royalties for it. The sourcing Europe22 used cannot be used as anecdotal evidence for WP:OR and as a result until a reference specifically stating this assertion can be provided this section is not warranted. The notability of "Papa A.P." is akin to the notability of someone who cheated in a marathon and one first place. So as Europe22 re-added this section for a third time without explanation and does not want to seem concede to this fact I think we should have the input of a third opinion. Kartel King ( talk) 05:21, 24 October 2008 (UTC)
(Unindent) Third party input: You're both correct.
Hey arimareiji. Thanks for your input into this dispute and offering an unbiased opinion on the issue. On the subject of the legality of an unauthorised copy you sound very knowledgeble which I could stubbornly argue with you over, but I must admit I do not know if there is a law making it illegal to violate copyright. I would just like to ask how you came to be aware of this as I would be interested in learning a bit more on this technicality. I mean if I was a famous artist and I had to personally take someone to court everytime they did a copy of one of my songs I would probably not bother with the hastle, but if it was illegal that would be a different story. P.S. I also do not think Papa A.P. or his copy of gasolina merit their own article even if he did have another charting single in Europe22's home-country of France, as it was riding off the success the copy gave him which hardly makes him deserving. Kartel King ( talk) 04:46, 25 October 2008 (UTC)
I've deleted the "3rd opinion requested" template from this page, because one has been provided. If the dispute continues, see
WP:DISPUTE for the next steps in the process.
Please keep in mind that most of these process steps assume that both parties are willing to accept outside input. If that's not the case, the last steps in the process will make it officially binding - but getting that far is a nasty affair for all concerned, and wastes a lot of time.
arimareiji (
talk)
16:21, 25 October 2008 (UTC)
For reference, I blame you guys for the fact that I now keep hearing echoes of the "Macarena" refrain in my head, with Macarena replaced by Gasolina. So be civil, and don't do this to anyone else. ^_~ (Blame my ignorance as an outsider, in never having heard Gasolina) arimareiji ( talk) 18:13, 25 October 2008 (UTC)
Europe22 hasn't anyone ever told you it's rude to be impatient? I'm sorry if I chose to have a real life and enjoy my weekend as opposed to possesing over wikipedia waiting for a reply from you. I have now answered your question where you first asked it, btw you would not need to have asked it had you read the edit summary and viewed the history of the two revisions. Kartel King ( talk) 02:39, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
My comment on Kartel King talk page after his deletion of Papa A.P.'s version :
My reply to the new edit war Europe22 has decided to start:
My reply :
KK's reply :
The Papa A.P. version can be merged in this article or get its own article, it's not a problem for me. Europe22 ( talk) 08:03, 2 March 2009 (UTC)
You really need to find out what plagiarism means and I am in a better position then you so don't insult me. His plagiarism was not the reason for excluding the section from the article, and you very well know that! All this was discussed back in October and you know the results so stop trying to make me look bad, I do not appreciate it at all and I have been very patient with your constant putting of words in my mouth which do not represent my views. Stop doing it! It's not hard, Kartel King ( talk) 02:09, 4 March 2009 (UTC)
El cangri386's comment on arimareiji's talk page :
Hey arimareiji. I've got a major concern about two articles I'm dealing with on Wikipedia, which are Gasolina and Gasolina (Papa A.P. song). I've had a concern with a cover version of a song having its own article, when I felt it would be right to instead merge it with Gasolina since the writers of both version (one of them being Daddy Yankee himself) are the same. I've even used Respect (song) as an example for the subject of original artists and notable covers. I discussed this with Kartel King and Europe22 and this has turned into a major edit war that has lasted for a long time now. I was referred to you by Europe22, asking for a third opinion on my edits to both Gasolina and Gasolina (Papa A.P. song). I've redirected the Papa A.P. version to a section in the original Gasolina article (which I'm afraid will be reverted sometime later on again by Kartel King). Please reply soon. We need a third opinion! :) El cangri386 Sign! or Talk 21:59, 2 March 2009 (UTC)
arimareiji's reply :
I couldn't find any specific policies when I did a quick search, but there does seem to be community consensus for merging cover versions. Honestly, I suspected that might be true when I recommended a split back then, but thought a temporary split might serve as a bandage long enough for 1) Europe22 to dig up and write good material in peace, and 2) tempers to cool. Given that there's been ample time for both to occur, the best solution is the one you already implemented - re-merge.
The trouble is that, as you've already seen, Kartel King is apparently still bent on venting his personal opinion of Papa AP rather than sticking to sources. I'd recommend an RfC about it to bring in more eyes - but honestly, at this point it's up to Kartel King. If he's willing to bend to the existing consensus or find sources to back his wording (which would probably change consensus), that would be the best possible solution. If not, then it's probably going to turn into a
WP:3RR issue of variable speed, and it'll have to be taken up there. Sorry I couldn't be more help.
arimareiji (
talk)
00:03, 3 March 2009 (UTC)
The general rule of thumb is that cover versions of a song, even if they become more popular or better known than the original, all go in one article about the specific song. The article about the Papa A.P. version should be merged into this article. TheJazzDalek ( talk) 20:40, 15 March 2009 (UTC)
Having read more about the two songs, I don't see why two articles are needed. Daddy Yankee released his song in the US, then Papa AP released a cover version in Europe and had a hit with it there. So what? That sort of thing happens all the time, throughout the history of pop music. Throwing around words like plagiarism and ripoff and steal is ludicrous. Besides, there's not enough verifiable content from reliable sources in Gasolina (Papa A.P. song) to justify a whole 'nother article. TheJazzDalek ( talk) 19:15, 16 March 2009 (UTC)
Europe22 removed claims of platinum certification in the US and Australia, and rightly so. A check of the RIAA and ARIA databases show that the song was never certified (platinum or even gold, for that matter). Please do not re-add the claim without a verifiable reference from a reliable source. TheJazzDalek ( talk) 12:37, 29 March 2009 (UTC)
According to Wikipedia in Spanish, this song was released on February 7, 2004. Therefore the earlier date was incorrect and take me the liberty of correcting it. Biruxx ( talk) 01:57, 1 July 2016 (UTC)
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ResolutionsPerMinute, here's a Billboard source that says the single "impacted radio in October." It also says that radio station WPYO in Orlando, Florida, was playing the song in September, likely sourcing it from the album which was released in July. Binksternet ( talk) 17:25, 31 July 2022 (UTC)