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Admittedly the central premise of Renard's book is highly controversial, however the book is proving to be extremely well received, and as such, I believe that Renard makes a good subject for a Wiki article. As always, any editors who may have any further verifiable published documentation regarding Renard or his book are most welcome to edit further.
Scott P. 15:42, August 8, 2005 (UTC)
I think it fell short of NPOV, and have edited it accordingly. Gene Ward Smith 22:48, 21 April 2006 (UTC)
Hey Gene,
I don't see where ACIM teaches anything that is clearly contradictory to the DU/ Big Bang claim. Could you possibly explain this to me? Thanks.
- Scott P. 15:12, 24 May 2006 (UTC)
This sentence is clearly factually wrong:
I removed it on that basis. QM does not say that humans might have come from Mars, etc. Some other matters of opinion rather than fact were edited also. WP:NPOV needs to be followed here. Gene Ward Smith 03:01, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
User Ste4k first attempted to delete this article using an unsuccessful Afd nomination. Failing to generate support in the Afd, he then simply deleted the article himself, regardless of the Afd result to keep. There was no discussion regarding the Afd or the actual article deletion on this talk page. User Ste4k has since been permanently banned from Wikipedia for his disruptive behavior. I have since reinstated the article. Scott P. ( talk) 17:00, 29 August 2009 (UTC)
He is not a notable author outside of A Course in Miracles circles, which is a very narrow circle of people cloistered around the Unity subculture. This article therefore serves only as promotion. No claim to notability is made. Lucinda14 ( talk) 15:24, 25 December 2014 (UTC)
I've listed this page for a deletion nomination. No claim to notability is made. The only claim made is that he is devoted to teaching the principles of A Course in Miracles, but that in itself doesn't qualify as notability, because ACIM has sold around two million copies and many people have written books on it and are dedicated to teaching its principles. Does every ACIM teacher/author deserve a wiki? In my opinion, the only two ACIM figures who truly deserve Wikis are Helen Schucman (the author of "A Course in Miracles"), and Marianne Williamson who authored a book about ACIM ( A Return to Love) which was an "Oprah pick" and has sold over 2 million copies! Renard can make no such claim to notability. Lucinda14 ( talk) 09:37, 26 December 2014 (UTC)
/info/en/?search=Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Gary_Renard_(2nd_nomination) Lucinda14 ( talk) 09:48, 26 December 2014 (UTC)
This page was created by a student of A Course in Miracles and Gary Renard, and it is being maintained by said student (as well as other ACIM students). This is therefore a conflict of interest. I have reverted the maintenance tags which an ACIM student removed. This page serves only for advertisement for a product. The only reason the most recent deletion nomination failed is because two ACIM students voted to keep the page, and the discussion was quickly closed thereafter (by a non-administrator). Lucinda14 ( talk) 01:37, 2 January 2015 (UTC)
If we can find third party (seconday sources) which discuss this author and his works, interesting information that could be provided:
Thanks, — Paleo Neonate - 18:29, 29 June 2017 (UTC)
Please avoid wholesale removal of text. Tag the material as uncited if needed, but please do not remove huge relevant chunks of text, especially when an AfD is in progress. Softlavender ( talk) 02:50, 10 August 2017 (UTC)
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
I have reverted a redirect to a page that barely mentioned the topic. Unscintillating ( talk) 18:12, 13 August 2017 (UTC)
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
Now let me clarify that there are admins who allow themselves to be bound into subsequent content disputes after an AfD, so this leads to some lack of clarity and an occasional trip to DRV with a content dispute, but the alternative would be that AfD could always bind admins into subsequent content disputes, which isn't going to happen. Unscintillating ( talk) 19:28, 13 August 2017 (UTC)
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
The recent 4th AfD failed to reach a decision to delete. Some editors didn't give the discussion credibility as it was started on the heels of the previous AfD, ignoring the advice provided at the DRV (in which I was a participant) to wait two months before renominating. The closing also noted an influx of outsiders, but deletion specialists are not content experts on all topics in the encyclopedia, so this is not generally a good thing. As per WP:Deletion policy#CONTENT, "content issues should be discussed at the relevant talk page". Unscintillating ( talk) 03:03, 14 August 2017 (UTC)
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
A review of the policy WP:Edit warring reveals that it echoes the previously cited WP:Deletion policy and the policy WP:Consensus, that the talk page is the place for discussion. Unscintillating ( talk) 18:36, 20 August 2017 (UTC)
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Regardless of the above (I was uninvolved), this redirect is current without Rcats. I propose the following: {{Rcat shell| {{R with history}} {{R from author}} {{R to section}} }}
{{R from merge}} is perfectly substituteable with R from history in this case.
And a {{DEFAULTSORT:Renard, Gary}} should also be added. Thanks menaechmi ( talk) 14:59, 21 August 2017 (UTC)
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Admittedly the central premise of Renard's book is highly controversial, however the book is proving to be extremely well received, and as such, I believe that Renard makes a good subject for a Wiki article. As always, any editors who may have any further verifiable published documentation regarding Renard or his book are most welcome to edit further.
Scott P. 15:42, August 8, 2005 (UTC)
I think it fell short of NPOV, and have edited it accordingly. Gene Ward Smith 22:48, 21 April 2006 (UTC)
Hey Gene,
I don't see where ACIM teaches anything that is clearly contradictory to the DU/ Big Bang claim. Could you possibly explain this to me? Thanks.
- Scott P. 15:12, 24 May 2006 (UTC)
This sentence is clearly factually wrong:
I removed it on that basis. QM does not say that humans might have come from Mars, etc. Some other matters of opinion rather than fact were edited also. WP:NPOV needs to be followed here. Gene Ward Smith 03:01, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
User Ste4k first attempted to delete this article using an unsuccessful Afd nomination. Failing to generate support in the Afd, he then simply deleted the article himself, regardless of the Afd result to keep. There was no discussion regarding the Afd or the actual article deletion on this talk page. User Ste4k has since been permanently banned from Wikipedia for his disruptive behavior. I have since reinstated the article. Scott P. ( talk) 17:00, 29 August 2009 (UTC)
He is not a notable author outside of A Course in Miracles circles, which is a very narrow circle of people cloistered around the Unity subculture. This article therefore serves only as promotion. No claim to notability is made. Lucinda14 ( talk) 15:24, 25 December 2014 (UTC)
I've listed this page for a deletion nomination. No claim to notability is made. The only claim made is that he is devoted to teaching the principles of A Course in Miracles, but that in itself doesn't qualify as notability, because ACIM has sold around two million copies and many people have written books on it and are dedicated to teaching its principles. Does every ACIM teacher/author deserve a wiki? In my opinion, the only two ACIM figures who truly deserve Wikis are Helen Schucman (the author of "A Course in Miracles"), and Marianne Williamson who authored a book about ACIM ( A Return to Love) which was an "Oprah pick" and has sold over 2 million copies! Renard can make no such claim to notability. Lucinda14 ( talk) 09:37, 26 December 2014 (UTC)
/info/en/?search=Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Gary_Renard_(2nd_nomination) Lucinda14 ( talk) 09:48, 26 December 2014 (UTC)
This page was created by a student of A Course in Miracles and Gary Renard, and it is being maintained by said student (as well as other ACIM students). This is therefore a conflict of interest. I have reverted the maintenance tags which an ACIM student removed. This page serves only for advertisement for a product. The only reason the most recent deletion nomination failed is because two ACIM students voted to keep the page, and the discussion was quickly closed thereafter (by a non-administrator). Lucinda14 ( talk) 01:37, 2 January 2015 (UTC)
If we can find third party (seconday sources) which discuss this author and his works, interesting information that could be provided:
Thanks, — Paleo Neonate - 18:29, 29 June 2017 (UTC)
Please avoid wholesale removal of text. Tag the material as uncited if needed, but please do not remove huge relevant chunks of text, especially when an AfD is in progress. Softlavender ( talk) 02:50, 10 August 2017 (UTC)
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
I have reverted a redirect to a page that barely mentioned the topic. Unscintillating ( talk) 18:12, 13 August 2017 (UTC)
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
Now let me clarify that there are admins who allow themselves to be bound into subsequent content disputes after an AfD, so this leads to some lack of clarity and an occasional trip to DRV with a content dispute, but the alternative would be that AfD could always bind admins into subsequent content disputes, which isn't going to happen. Unscintillating ( talk) 19:28, 13 August 2017 (UTC)
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
The recent 4th AfD failed to reach a decision to delete. Some editors didn't give the discussion credibility as it was started on the heels of the previous AfD, ignoring the advice provided at the DRV (in which I was a participant) to wait two months before renominating. The closing also noted an influx of outsiders, but deletion specialists are not content experts on all topics in the encyclopedia, so this is not generally a good thing. As per WP:Deletion policy#CONTENT, "content issues should be discussed at the relevant talk page". Unscintillating ( talk) 03:03, 14 August 2017 (UTC)
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
A review of the policy WP:Edit warring reveals that it echoes the previously cited WP:Deletion policy and the policy WP:Consensus, that the talk page is the place for discussion. Unscintillating ( talk) 18:36, 20 August 2017 (UTC)
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edit request has been answered. Set the |answered= or |ans= parameter to no to reactivate your request. |
Regardless of the above (I was uninvolved), this redirect is current without Rcats. I propose the following: {{Rcat shell| {{R with history}} {{R from author}} {{R to section}} }}
{{R from merge}} is perfectly substituteable with R from history in this case.
And a {{DEFAULTSORT:Renard, Gary}} should also be added. Thanks menaechmi ( talk) 14:59, 21 August 2017 (UTC)