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In an article in The Age on 13 September 2007, Katharine Murphy wrote "Mr Nairn is a former leader of the Northern Territory Liberals who is now Mr Howard's Special Minister of State". I've checked but can find no confirmation he was ever involved in NT politics, or has ever even lived in the NT. Is this just a journalistic stuff-up? -- JackofOz 03:32, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
I take that back. Actually, I'm a moron. His parliamentary biography says that he was CLP president from 1990-94. Rebecca 06:10, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
I added the entry "Mr Nairn has voted 23 times for the controversial "Workchoices" legislation, which many believe has disadvantaged working families." The moderator has removed that entry with the explanation "Since Mr Nairn is a Liberal, it is not surprising that he did so." This is political censorship, attempting to remove an embarrassing but true comment. Readers are entitled to know how Mr Nairn voted, regardless of his affiliations, and removing that is partisan political censorship. BogongMoth 01:18, 14 November 2007 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by BogongMoth ( talk • contribs) 01:12, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
Removing referance to a politician's voting record is certainly partisan. Also, everyone is entitled to know how a politician voted on any issue. Why hide it? Indeed, some websites have been set up to list politicians' voting records. Assuming that he always voted according to the party line is fraught with misguided assumptions, as some politicians have voted against the party line, see Senator Barnaby Joyce for example. I see also that earlier entries in the site have referred to Nairn's history, such as "Nairn has announced cash grants of millions of dollars to the wood chipping industry in recent years through Forest Industry Structural Adjustment Package grants. In his first speech to Parliament in 1996 he argued for increased wood chipping....." So why remove all reference to his support for WorkChoices? This certainly smacks of censorship and is contrary to Wikipedia's "Neutral Point Of View" and requirements for factual entries editorial policies. —Preceding unsigned comment added by BogongMoth ( talk • contribs) 04:35, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
The question remains: if the statement is true, why remove it? I have heard Gary Nairn say at a public meeting that he was proud of his support for Workchoices. —Preceding unsigned comment added by BogongMoth ( talk • contribs) 04:55, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
The assertion that I was heckling is not backed up by the facts of the situation. It is perjorative POV. The exchange took place in a desiginated Q&A section of the meeting, and there was substantial interplay between not just myself, but other members of the audience and Kelly. I was certainly 'arguing' with Kelly. But I was not 'heckling', and this can be seen in the fuller transcript of the debate, where the ABC journo describes the interaction not as 'heckling' but as an 'exchange': http://www.abc.net.au/pm/content/2007/s2038092.htm Peter phelps ( talk) 02:18, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
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In an article in The Age on 13 September 2007, Katharine Murphy wrote "Mr Nairn is a former leader of the Northern Territory Liberals who is now Mr Howard's Special Minister of State". I've checked but can find no confirmation he was ever involved in NT politics, or has ever even lived in the NT. Is this just a journalistic stuff-up? -- JackofOz 03:32, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
I take that back. Actually, I'm a moron. His parliamentary biography says that he was CLP president from 1990-94. Rebecca 06:10, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
I added the entry "Mr Nairn has voted 23 times for the controversial "Workchoices" legislation, which many believe has disadvantaged working families." The moderator has removed that entry with the explanation "Since Mr Nairn is a Liberal, it is not surprising that he did so." This is political censorship, attempting to remove an embarrassing but true comment. Readers are entitled to know how Mr Nairn voted, regardless of his affiliations, and removing that is partisan political censorship. BogongMoth 01:18, 14 November 2007 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by BogongMoth ( talk • contribs) 01:12, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
Removing referance to a politician's voting record is certainly partisan. Also, everyone is entitled to know how a politician voted on any issue. Why hide it? Indeed, some websites have been set up to list politicians' voting records. Assuming that he always voted according to the party line is fraught with misguided assumptions, as some politicians have voted against the party line, see Senator Barnaby Joyce for example. I see also that earlier entries in the site have referred to Nairn's history, such as "Nairn has announced cash grants of millions of dollars to the wood chipping industry in recent years through Forest Industry Structural Adjustment Package grants. In his first speech to Parliament in 1996 he argued for increased wood chipping....." So why remove all reference to his support for WorkChoices? This certainly smacks of censorship and is contrary to Wikipedia's "Neutral Point Of View" and requirements for factual entries editorial policies. —Preceding unsigned comment added by BogongMoth ( talk • contribs) 04:35, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
The question remains: if the statement is true, why remove it? I have heard Gary Nairn say at a public meeting that he was proud of his support for Workchoices. —Preceding unsigned comment added by BogongMoth ( talk • contribs) 04:55, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
The assertion that I was heckling is not backed up by the facts of the situation. It is perjorative POV. The exchange took place in a desiginated Q&A section of the meeting, and there was substantial interplay between not just myself, but other members of the audience and Kelly. I was certainly 'arguing' with Kelly. But I was not 'heckling', and this can be seen in the fuller transcript of the debate, where the ABC journo describes the interaction not as 'heckling' but as an 'exchange': http://www.abc.net.au/pm/content/2007/s2038092.htm Peter phelps ( talk) 02:18, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
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