This is the
talk page for discussing improvements to the
Gary M. Heidnik article. This is not a forum for general discussion of the article's subject. |
Article policies
|
Find sources: Google ( books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL |
This article is rated Start-class on Wikipedia's
content assessment scale. It is of interest to the following WikiProjects: | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
|
Please delete this article as it is a duplication.
My now-reverted clarification that the elctrocution occured in the punsihment pit rather than a bathtub was based on the linked-to Crime Library article, which to me suggests the electrocution occured in the existing plywood-covered punishment pit. See here: Crime Library MinorEdit June 29, 2005 01:23 (UTC)
This article says pit: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/justice-story/philly-sicko-death-dungeon-inspired-famous-movie-scene-article-1.1348191?pgno=1 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dustynyfeathers ( talk • contribs) 14:22, 20 May 2013 (UTC)
Twice the four foot pit is described as "deep". That doesn't seem very deep to me. -- Dystopos 23:50, 16 February 2006 (UTC) Everything I've read suggests that the pit was actually very shallow, allowing just enough room for a woman to fit into the hole, contorted uncomfortably. 68.51.188.174 ( talk) 09:38, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
I think that the warning is inherently non-NPOV and should be removed. We do not have one on many other articles which could be considered by some to be "disturbing". See the discussion/consensus at Talk: Ted Bundy. savidan (talk) (e@) 05:08, 2 March 2006 (UTC)
-- Dystopos 06:04, 8 March 2006 (UTC) I disagree. Spoiler warnings are nowhere near POV. If you wanted a warning for an image, you would have a case. However, the world is a scary place. It's very unwiki to put a warning just for telling the facts in a NPOV way. Note that this is an article, not text porn or a novel. The descirptions here aren't that graphic. savidan (talk) (e@) 16:43, 8 March 2006 (UTC)
You should of warned me, I looked to long at his mugshot. I think it stole my soul. :) Hempeater 21:39, 18 March 2006 (UTC)
If one is reading an article about a notorious murderer, one should know to assume that there is going to be graphic, unpleasant, disturbing content. 68.51.188.174 ( talk) 09:40, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
This man, if executed as the wiki says, cannot have died in Pittsburgh. Pennsylvania's death chamber is in Rockview, Centre County, which is several hours east of Pittsburgh, near State College. -- {{User:Coryma}} 00:35, 26 March 2007 (UTC)
"At his arraignment, Heidnik claimed that the women were already in the house when he moved in.[5]" Did he? I can't find anything like that in the source provided. Anyone got a reliable source for this statement (one that doesn't just copy what Wikipedia says)? [arthal] ( talk) 00:39, 7 March 2008 (UTC)
The cited source, http://www.crimelibrary.com/serial_killers/weird/heidnik/spiral_8.html, says that Heidnik forced his wife to watch him having sex with other women, not to do so herself. Matuszek ( talk) 04:27, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
Seems that his lawyer helped to spread rumors about the cannibalism in order to make his client look more insane. http://www.phillymag.com/articles/inside_the_house_of_heidnik/page14 I think perhaps those points should be removed from the article as they are, and it mentioned that there were unsubstantiated rumors of cannibalism, instead. —Preceding unsigned comment added by KaylaraOwl ( talk • contribs) 13:21, 22 October 2008 (UTC)
Hello fellow Wikipedians,
I have just modified one external link on Gary M. Heidnik. Please take a moment to review my edit. If you have any questions, or need the bot to ignore the links, or the page altogether, please visit this simple FaQ for additional information. I made the following changes:
{{
dead link}}
tag to
http://www.philadelphiaweekly.com/view.php?id=1880{{
dead link}}
tag to
http://www.philadelphiaweekly.com/news-and-opinion/cover-story/return_to_the_house_of_horrors-38347699.html?page=2&comments=1&showAll=When you have finished reviewing my changes, you may follow the instructions on the template below to fix any issues with the URLs.
This message was posted before February 2018.
After February 2018, "External links modified" talk page sections are no longer generated or monitored by InternetArchiveBot. No special action is required regarding these talk page notices, other than
regular verification using the archive tool instructions below. Editors
have permission to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the
RfC before doing mass systematic removals. This message is updated dynamically through the template {{
source check}}
(last update: 5 June 2024).
Cheers.— InternetArchiveBot ( Report bug) 12:09, 11 October 2017 (UTC)
I added my father and his parter, John Cannon, as the arresting officers. This can be confirmed in Ken Englade’s Cellar of Horror. JoanneSavidge ( talk) 23:48, 14 March 2018 (UTC)
I am reading Josefina Rivera's book about what happened and She had wrote down that Gary had baked Lindsay's ribs in the oven and burnt them til there was very little flesh on the bones, he let the neighborhood dogs eat her bones, and he boiled her head, and he also cut her up into little pieces and put her in the freezer. He showed what was left of Lindsay to Deborah Dudley, and it scared her into submitting to him.
A discussion is taking place to address the redirect Sandra Lindsay. The discussion will occur at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 March 27#Sandra Lindsay until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion. Shhhnotsoloud ( talk) 11:34, 27 March 2021 (UTC)
I can't find any priamry sources verifying that this man's IQ was actually 148, and quite frankly, I just don't see anything even remotely intelligent about him. JointCompound ( talk) 20:04, 30 November 2021 (UTC)
Most be a typo, as that would suggest the church was costly. I don't remember hearing anything about Heidnik selling it, so how does the source know that? 82.40.43.68 ( talk) 16:18, 8 March 2023 (UTC)
The list of victims and capture dates said that Adams was freed the same day she was kidnapped. The prose earlier says "On March 23, 1987, Heidnik and Rivera abducted Agnes Adams. The next day, Rivera convinced Heidnik to let her go." Neither assertion has a clearly cited source. I removed the parenthetical from the bulleted list. But I want to flag the issue here in case the prose is wrong, and that it wasn't "the next day" but the same day. -- EEMIV ( talk) 14:01, 19 March 2023 (UTC)
I'm not the wokest person out there, but it seems pertinent that this detail be included. It must have been a motivating factor, after all. HIPSTERxNERD ( talk) 07:19, 3 June 2023 (UTC)
This is the
talk page for discussing improvements to the
Gary M. Heidnik article. This is not a forum for general discussion of the article's subject. |
Article policies
|
Find sources: Google ( books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL |
This article is rated Start-class on Wikipedia's
content assessment scale. It is of interest to the following WikiProjects: | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
|
Please delete this article as it is a duplication.
My now-reverted clarification that the elctrocution occured in the punsihment pit rather than a bathtub was based on the linked-to Crime Library article, which to me suggests the electrocution occured in the existing plywood-covered punishment pit. See here: Crime Library MinorEdit June 29, 2005 01:23 (UTC)
This article says pit: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/justice-story/philly-sicko-death-dungeon-inspired-famous-movie-scene-article-1.1348191?pgno=1 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dustynyfeathers ( talk • contribs) 14:22, 20 May 2013 (UTC)
Twice the four foot pit is described as "deep". That doesn't seem very deep to me. -- Dystopos 23:50, 16 February 2006 (UTC) Everything I've read suggests that the pit was actually very shallow, allowing just enough room for a woman to fit into the hole, contorted uncomfortably. 68.51.188.174 ( talk) 09:38, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
I think that the warning is inherently non-NPOV and should be removed. We do not have one on many other articles which could be considered by some to be "disturbing". See the discussion/consensus at Talk: Ted Bundy. savidan (talk) (e@) 05:08, 2 March 2006 (UTC)
-- Dystopos 06:04, 8 March 2006 (UTC) I disagree. Spoiler warnings are nowhere near POV. If you wanted a warning for an image, you would have a case. However, the world is a scary place. It's very unwiki to put a warning just for telling the facts in a NPOV way. Note that this is an article, not text porn or a novel. The descirptions here aren't that graphic. savidan (talk) (e@) 16:43, 8 March 2006 (UTC)
You should of warned me, I looked to long at his mugshot. I think it stole my soul. :) Hempeater 21:39, 18 March 2006 (UTC)
If one is reading an article about a notorious murderer, one should know to assume that there is going to be graphic, unpleasant, disturbing content. 68.51.188.174 ( talk) 09:40, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
This man, if executed as the wiki says, cannot have died in Pittsburgh. Pennsylvania's death chamber is in Rockview, Centre County, which is several hours east of Pittsburgh, near State College. -- {{User:Coryma}} 00:35, 26 March 2007 (UTC)
"At his arraignment, Heidnik claimed that the women were already in the house when he moved in.[5]" Did he? I can't find anything like that in the source provided. Anyone got a reliable source for this statement (one that doesn't just copy what Wikipedia says)? [arthal] ( talk) 00:39, 7 March 2008 (UTC)
The cited source, http://www.crimelibrary.com/serial_killers/weird/heidnik/spiral_8.html, says that Heidnik forced his wife to watch him having sex with other women, not to do so herself. Matuszek ( talk) 04:27, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
Seems that his lawyer helped to spread rumors about the cannibalism in order to make his client look more insane. http://www.phillymag.com/articles/inside_the_house_of_heidnik/page14 I think perhaps those points should be removed from the article as they are, and it mentioned that there were unsubstantiated rumors of cannibalism, instead. —Preceding unsigned comment added by KaylaraOwl ( talk • contribs) 13:21, 22 October 2008 (UTC)
Hello fellow Wikipedians,
I have just modified one external link on Gary M. Heidnik. Please take a moment to review my edit. If you have any questions, or need the bot to ignore the links, or the page altogether, please visit this simple FaQ for additional information. I made the following changes:
{{
dead link}}
tag to
http://www.philadelphiaweekly.com/view.php?id=1880{{
dead link}}
tag to
http://www.philadelphiaweekly.com/news-and-opinion/cover-story/return_to_the_house_of_horrors-38347699.html?page=2&comments=1&showAll=When you have finished reviewing my changes, you may follow the instructions on the template below to fix any issues with the URLs.
This message was posted before February 2018.
After February 2018, "External links modified" talk page sections are no longer generated or monitored by InternetArchiveBot. No special action is required regarding these talk page notices, other than
regular verification using the archive tool instructions below. Editors
have permission to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the
RfC before doing mass systematic removals. This message is updated dynamically through the template {{
source check}}
(last update: 5 June 2024).
Cheers.— InternetArchiveBot ( Report bug) 12:09, 11 October 2017 (UTC)
I added my father and his parter, John Cannon, as the arresting officers. This can be confirmed in Ken Englade’s Cellar of Horror. JoanneSavidge ( talk) 23:48, 14 March 2018 (UTC)
I am reading Josefina Rivera's book about what happened and She had wrote down that Gary had baked Lindsay's ribs in the oven and burnt them til there was very little flesh on the bones, he let the neighborhood dogs eat her bones, and he boiled her head, and he also cut her up into little pieces and put her in the freezer. He showed what was left of Lindsay to Deborah Dudley, and it scared her into submitting to him.
A discussion is taking place to address the redirect Sandra Lindsay. The discussion will occur at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 March 27#Sandra Lindsay until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion. Shhhnotsoloud ( talk) 11:34, 27 March 2021 (UTC)
I can't find any priamry sources verifying that this man's IQ was actually 148, and quite frankly, I just don't see anything even remotely intelligent about him. JointCompound ( talk) 20:04, 30 November 2021 (UTC)
Most be a typo, as that would suggest the church was costly. I don't remember hearing anything about Heidnik selling it, so how does the source know that? 82.40.43.68 ( talk) 16:18, 8 March 2023 (UTC)
The list of victims and capture dates said that Adams was freed the same day she was kidnapped. The prose earlier says "On March 23, 1987, Heidnik and Rivera abducted Agnes Adams. The next day, Rivera convinced Heidnik to let her go." Neither assertion has a clearly cited source. I removed the parenthetical from the bulleted list. But I want to flag the issue here in case the prose is wrong, and that it wasn't "the next day" but the same day. -- EEMIV ( talk) 14:01, 19 March 2023 (UTC)
I'm not the wokest person out there, but it seems pertinent that this detail be included. It must have been a motivating factor, after all. HIPSTERxNERD ( talk) 07:19, 3 June 2023 (UTC)