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A gaff is the sail is supported at the top by a spar. The gaff is suspended from the mast and rises and falls with the sail. See the picture on the schooner page for an example. The gaff is hoisted so that its end furthest from the mast is much higher than the end attached to the mast. This leads to an advantage of this rig that the mast itself need not be so high. Possibly this led to the popularity of this type of rig in the days of wooden spars.
A reasonable start but lots of guesswork. Andrewa 21:21, 5 Nov 2004 (UTC)
Presently the Gaff article is a subset of a version of this article. It either needs work or should become a disambiguation page for the spar used in Gaff rig and the fishing tool. With work (along the lines of Boom), it could probably shrink Gaff rig and let that concentrate on where the rig is used. But as it stands now Gaff is duplication.-- J Clear 02:32, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
Does this happen? If so, the area would more than double. Debivort 20:20, 16 December 2006 (UTC)
There is a warning that this section is written like the opinion of wikipedia. I have read it. It's not opinion, it is factual information. I think the problem is most of the evidence is anecdotal. You can't measure whether one is better than another, you can only compare, and that's what this section does very accurately ( Scot McPherson) 11 September, 2014 — Preceding undated comment added 19:53, 11 September 2014 (UTC)
I agree with this criticism. I see no basis for tagging this section as opinion. Gaff rigs do have a CE lower and aft of a Bermuda rig of the same sail area. Using a cutter rig (two jibs) can compensate for that, as can keel design, and that is a popular option. The article may need better citations, but section is far from a personal impression. Jklowden ( talk) 20:23, 26 April 2015 (UTC)
I've had to wend my way through a couple of dozen of these nautical articles and most of them are quite wonderful. The problem I have, the MAJOR problem I have, is the inability to define one discrete feature of a sailing vessel without reference to a series of other features, all of which lead back to the feature one is trying to figure out. Read my lips: SHOW ME A PICTURE!! Nothing Else Will Do! You nautical types end up coming across to the rest of us as rather self-satisfied enthusiasts. GET IT TOGETHER and clue the rest of us in on what you are talking about.
Thanks most humbly. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.196.74.174 ( talk) 14:50, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
The "halyard" photo is supposed to demonstrate exactly what a gaff-rigged boat is. How very nice. Exactly WHERE in the photo does it indicate what a ""***GAFF***"" is? I don't want to spend 5 hours on each and every of the hundreds of nautical terms, I come to Wikipedia to make my life easier. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.196.74.174 ( talk) 14:59, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
Have been redirected from Ringtail (sail) - so what is a Ringtail sail? is it the same as a Gaff or is the redirect wrong? Ray3055 ( talk) 18:02, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
No, this should be redirected to Studding_sail. I fixed the redirect. Scot.mcpherson 11 September 2014 — Preceding undated comment added 19:47, 11 September 2014 (UTC)
Much of this article is there "because it is obvious", but this is not acceptable. Citations must be found for all facts asserted in the article. Fiddle Faddle ( talk) 21:57, 11 September 2012 (UTC)
There is a French Interlanguage link, directly written in article wikicode, to
fr:Voile aurique. But looking at WikiData
d:Q2723168, the French Interlanguage link would be
fr:Voile à corne. --
62.19.46.1 (
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12:17, 9 January 2016 (UTC)
Looking at French Wikipedia:
fr:Voile aurique is linked to
d:Q1780790, which is linked to
Fore-and-aft rig.
fr:Voile à corne is linked to
d:Q2723168 so, off course, to this article
Gaff rig.--
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A gaff is the sail is supported at the top by a spar. The gaff is suspended from the mast and rises and falls with the sail. See the picture on the schooner page for an example. The gaff is hoisted so that its end furthest from the mast is much higher than the end attached to the mast. This leads to an advantage of this rig that the mast itself need not be so high. Possibly this led to the popularity of this type of rig in the days of wooden spars.
A reasonable start but lots of guesswork. Andrewa 21:21, 5 Nov 2004 (UTC)
Presently the Gaff article is a subset of a version of this article. It either needs work or should become a disambiguation page for the spar used in Gaff rig and the fishing tool. With work (along the lines of Boom), it could probably shrink Gaff rig and let that concentrate on where the rig is used. But as it stands now Gaff is duplication.-- J Clear 02:32, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
Does this happen? If so, the area would more than double. Debivort 20:20, 16 December 2006 (UTC)
There is a warning that this section is written like the opinion of wikipedia. I have read it. It's not opinion, it is factual information. I think the problem is most of the evidence is anecdotal. You can't measure whether one is better than another, you can only compare, and that's what this section does very accurately ( Scot McPherson) 11 September, 2014 — Preceding undated comment added 19:53, 11 September 2014 (UTC)
I agree with this criticism. I see no basis for tagging this section as opinion. Gaff rigs do have a CE lower and aft of a Bermuda rig of the same sail area. Using a cutter rig (two jibs) can compensate for that, as can keel design, and that is a popular option. The article may need better citations, but section is far from a personal impression. Jklowden ( talk) 20:23, 26 April 2015 (UTC)
I've had to wend my way through a couple of dozen of these nautical articles and most of them are quite wonderful. The problem I have, the MAJOR problem I have, is the inability to define one discrete feature of a sailing vessel without reference to a series of other features, all of which lead back to the feature one is trying to figure out. Read my lips: SHOW ME A PICTURE!! Nothing Else Will Do! You nautical types end up coming across to the rest of us as rather self-satisfied enthusiasts. GET IT TOGETHER and clue the rest of us in on what you are talking about.
Thanks most humbly. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.196.74.174 ( talk) 14:50, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
The "halyard" photo is supposed to demonstrate exactly what a gaff-rigged boat is. How very nice. Exactly WHERE in the photo does it indicate what a ""***GAFF***"" is? I don't want to spend 5 hours on each and every of the hundreds of nautical terms, I come to Wikipedia to make my life easier. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.196.74.174 ( talk) 14:59, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
Have been redirected from Ringtail (sail) - so what is a Ringtail sail? is it the same as a Gaff or is the redirect wrong? Ray3055 ( talk) 18:02, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
No, this should be redirected to Studding_sail. I fixed the redirect. Scot.mcpherson 11 September 2014 — Preceding undated comment added 19:47, 11 September 2014 (UTC)
Much of this article is there "because it is obvious", but this is not acceptable. Citations must be found for all facts asserted in the article. Fiddle Faddle ( talk) 21:57, 11 September 2012 (UTC)
There is a French Interlanguage link, directly written in article wikicode, to
fr:Voile aurique. But looking at WikiData
d:Q2723168, the French Interlanguage link would be
fr:Voile à corne. --
62.19.46.1 (
talk)
12:17, 9 January 2016 (UTC)
Looking at French Wikipedia:
fr:Voile aurique is linked to
d:Q1780790, which is linked to
Fore-and-aft rig.
fr:Voile à corne is linked to
d:Q2723168 so, off course, to this article
Gaff rig.--
62.19.46.1 (
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12:25, 9 January 2016 (UTC)
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