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i think it's very weird to include a "spanish pronunciation" of the surname , as the surname is a german one and the spanish pronucniaton rules don't apply. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.103.55.201 ( talk) 23:55, 5 March 2013 (UTC)
Does he speak German fluently?
I assume that it's either his second or third language so it's unlikely that he's a fluent german-speaker. I think you don't get to a fluent-speaking level if the only person you talk to in german is your father. They maybe even speak spanish so you can't tell that he's fluent just because his father is german.
When did his father move to Argentina?
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82.36.23.73 added the text "Somewhat bizarrely, Heinze is able to speak Welsh. He hails from Patagonia, an area where many Welsh people settled in the 19th century and as such the language is spoken to some degree.".
I'm not sure if theres any truth in this, but as far as I understand Heinze was born in the Mesopotamic and warm Entre Ríos Province, far from the Patagonic coldness of Chubut Province where the Welsh people settled. Perhaps his familly moved down there, but I haven't been ablo to find any reference to this.
a few links stating Heinze was born in Crespo, Entre Ríos: [1], [2], [3], [4]
If we don't find some info that proves this right, I will removed this text in, say a week. - Mariano 07:49, 25 August 2005 (UTC)
The Welsh thing was mentioned in the Guardian's match commentary this evening [5], so I had a look round for sources. The best I could find is a profile on the Sky Sports site (marked copyright 2006) which beas a remarkable resemblance to the comment noted above: Born to a German father and an Italian mother, Heinze's cosmopolitan make-up is accentuated by his ability to speak Welsh. Hailing from Patagonia, a region inhabited by Welsh settlers in the 19th Century...". I don't know what's going on, or who's taking info from whom. Henry Flower 19:38, 24 June 2006 (UTC)
Hi, x42bn6, I do now understand that this falls under WPOR. Thank you for introducing the concept to me - I am new to Wikipedia. However, my change on the page, regarding Heinze speaking welsh or not, is still relevant. Not because I can confirm that he de not speaks welsh, but because nobody is citing a reliable source that he do. Talking about rumours in the introduction is anyway unapropiate. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 83.109.130.237 ( talk • contribs).
Hi, your source is totally unreliable, due to two facts: First of all it states in the same sentence that Heinze has a german father and an italian mother. This was confrimed untrue, and removes from this page one year ago. Secondly, it's likely that the information on the skysports page origened in Wikipedia itself - where you will find exactly the same sentence from 2004. Have a look: http://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Gabriel_Heinze&oldid=20478318 Seems like the hoax started inside here, by someone not citing sources, went out to skysport and hit us back. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 83.109.130.237 ( talk • contribs).
hi, "confirmed" refered to german & italian parents. But that's another discussion... —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 83.109.130.237 ( talk • contribs).
So did we copy the article from this page, or did they copy from us? Henry Flower 19:31, 24 June 2006 (UTC)
Just reverted a lot of edits/vandalism claiming that Heinze had agreed to join Real Madrid or Liverpool. Darkson (Yabba Dabba Doo!) 17:21, 22 August 2007 (UTC)
Unless we can find a source that says Heinze is combative and has good aerial presence, we shouldn't be adding such opinions. – Pee Jay 14:51, 18 September 2012 (UTC)
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@ Aikclaes: Hello. I think it's better to transcribe Gabriel [ɡaˈβɾjel] too. And some people pronounce the surname with an initial [x], see [9] and [10]. Do you think we should add a [(x)]? LoveVanPersie ( talk) 18:15, 23 March 2018 (UTC)
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i think it's very weird to include a "spanish pronunciation" of the surname , as the surname is a german one and the spanish pronucniaton rules don't apply. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.103.55.201 ( talk) 23:55, 5 March 2013 (UTC)
Does he speak German fluently?
I assume that it's either his second or third language so it's unlikely that he's a fluent german-speaker. I think you don't get to a fluent-speaking level if the only person you talk to in german is your father. They maybe even speak spanish so you can't tell that he's fluent just because his father is german.
When did his father move to Argentina?
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82.36.23.73 added the text "Somewhat bizarrely, Heinze is able to speak Welsh. He hails from Patagonia, an area where many Welsh people settled in the 19th century and as such the language is spoken to some degree.".
I'm not sure if theres any truth in this, but as far as I understand Heinze was born in the Mesopotamic and warm Entre Ríos Province, far from the Patagonic coldness of Chubut Province where the Welsh people settled. Perhaps his familly moved down there, but I haven't been ablo to find any reference to this.
a few links stating Heinze was born in Crespo, Entre Ríos: [1], [2], [3], [4]
If we don't find some info that proves this right, I will removed this text in, say a week. - Mariano 07:49, 25 August 2005 (UTC)
The Welsh thing was mentioned in the Guardian's match commentary this evening [5], so I had a look round for sources. The best I could find is a profile on the Sky Sports site (marked copyright 2006) which beas a remarkable resemblance to the comment noted above: Born to a German father and an Italian mother, Heinze's cosmopolitan make-up is accentuated by his ability to speak Welsh. Hailing from Patagonia, a region inhabited by Welsh settlers in the 19th Century...". I don't know what's going on, or who's taking info from whom. Henry Flower 19:38, 24 June 2006 (UTC)
Hi, x42bn6, I do now understand that this falls under WPOR. Thank you for introducing the concept to me - I am new to Wikipedia. However, my change on the page, regarding Heinze speaking welsh or not, is still relevant. Not because I can confirm that he de not speaks welsh, but because nobody is citing a reliable source that he do. Talking about rumours in the introduction is anyway unapropiate. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 83.109.130.237 ( talk • contribs).
Hi, your source is totally unreliable, due to two facts: First of all it states in the same sentence that Heinze has a german father and an italian mother. This was confrimed untrue, and removes from this page one year ago. Secondly, it's likely that the information on the skysports page origened in Wikipedia itself - where you will find exactly the same sentence from 2004. Have a look: http://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Gabriel_Heinze&oldid=20478318 Seems like the hoax started inside here, by someone not citing sources, went out to skysport and hit us back. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 83.109.130.237 ( talk • contribs).
hi, "confirmed" refered to german & italian parents. But that's another discussion... —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 83.109.130.237 ( talk • contribs).
So did we copy the article from this page, or did they copy from us? Henry Flower 19:31, 24 June 2006 (UTC)
Just reverted a lot of edits/vandalism claiming that Heinze had agreed to join Real Madrid or Liverpool. Darkson (Yabba Dabba Doo!) 17:21, 22 August 2007 (UTC)
Unless we can find a source that says Heinze is combative and has good aerial presence, we shouldn't be adding such opinions. – Pee Jay 14:51, 18 September 2012 (UTC)
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@ Aikclaes: Hello. I think it's better to transcribe Gabriel [ɡaˈβɾjel] too. And some people pronounce the surname with an initial [x], see [9] and [10]. Do you think we should add a [(x)]? LoveVanPersie ( talk) 18:15, 23 March 2018 (UTC)