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After the recent addition by User:ChrisRed, should the {{stub}} tag now be removed? -- Old Moonraker 09:02, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
Might be helpful to expand on this a bit, or at the very least use some alternative terminology. Were the connections particularly loose by design, allowing a lot of 'play', or did they suffer from wear? Whichever way, 'lost motion' is not a technically accurate phrase, although it will suffice until a more precise description of the mechanism is available.
I'm sure I have seen photos of an engine sandwiched in the middle of four coaches. What was the practical limit for interconnecting them? Was it possible to disconnect the mechanism from the trailing coaches for part of a journey?
(So many questions...sorry!)
EdJogg 10:14, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
The following webpage will be of great interest to those editing this article, although it sadly doesn't answer many of the above questions! There is much about the 48xx/14xx class, and interesting details such as that the whistle could only be 'auto-connected' when the engine bunker was towards the coach...and was often forgotten about when uncoupling!
EdJogg 11:42, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
EdJogg 02:03, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
I was going to add Image:GWR autocoach on Severn Valley Railway.jpg to this article, as an example of a different design of autocoach. However, the more research I've done, the more I am starting to doubt that that is an autocoach in the first place. Elsewhere such coaches are described as Inspection Saloons, and there are several of them on UK preserved railways. But was this example built as an Inspection Saloon, or converted from an autocoach? (Certainly, if it had any, the driving controls are now gone.) Were any autocoaches converted for use as inspection saloons? (One web ref, which I didn't follow up, indicated that a preserved autocoach had at one time sported an ADB (BR departmental) number.)
More questions than answers...sorry!
Incidentally, if we do decide that this image shows an Inspection Saloon, the image detail and caption at Commons needs to be updated.
EdJogg 13:14, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
Re :'Loco Section'
Ed...I still think that it is worthwhile to give the types of loco used with these coaches, to give people an idea of what a typical 'combo' would have looked like in various parts of the GWR. It's OK for grey-haired old anoraks like us to assume that people will know, but younger enthusiasts/newcomer railway modellers etc will need to see a picture. Many thanks for all your input to this article...I think it looks pretty good now. Best wishes ChrisRed 19:00, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
(copied from 'Auto-fitted Locos' section above)...I asked the South Devon Railway for permission to use that nice shot you found of an autotrain in 'Blood and Custard' by the River Dart. They answered my E-mail saying 'Yes' but I don't know how to go about including it. ChrisRed 14:21, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
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After the recent addition by User:ChrisRed, should the {{stub}} tag now be removed? -- Old Moonraker 09:02, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
Might be helpful to expand on this a bit, or at the very least use some alternative terminology. Were the connections particularly loose by design, allowing a lot of 'play', or did they suffer from wear? Whichever way, 'lost motion' is not a technically accurate phrase, although it will suffice until a more precise description of the mechanism is available.
I'm sure I have seen photos of an engine sandwiched in the middle of four coaches. What was the practical limit for interconnecting them? Was it possible to disconnect the mechanism from the trailing coaches for part of a journey?
(So many questions...sorry!)
EdJogg 10:14, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
The following webpage will be of great interest to those editing this article, although it sadly doesn't answer many of the above questions! There is much about the 48xx/14xx class, and interesting details such as that the whistle could only be 'auto-connected' when the engine bunker was towards the coach...and was often forgotten about when uncoupling!
EdJogg 11:42, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
EdJogg 02:03, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
I was going to add Image:GWR autocoach on Severn Valley Railway.jpg to this article, as an example of a different design of autocoach. However, the more research I've done, the more I am starting to doubt that that is an autocoach in the first place. Elsewhere such coaches are described as Inspection Saloons, and there are several of them on UK preserved railways. But was this example built as an Inspection Saloon, or converted from an autocoach? (Certainly, if it had any, the driving controls are now gone.) Were any autocoaches converted for use as inspection saloons? (One web ref, which I didn't follow up, indicated that a preserved autocoach had at one time sported an ADB (BR departmental) number.)
More questions than answers...sorry!
Incidentally, if we do decide that this image shows an Inspection Saloon, the image detail and caption at Commons needs to be updated.
EdJogg 13:14, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
Re :'Loco Section'
Ed...I still think that it is worthwhile to give the types of loco used with these coaches, to give people an idea of what a typical 'combo' would have looked like in various parts of the GWR. It's OK for grey-haired old anoraks like us to assume that people will know, but younger enthusiasts/newcomer railway modellers etc will need to see a picture. Many thanks for all your input to this article...I think it looks pretty good now. Best wishes ChrisRed 19:00, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
(copied from 'Auto-fitted Locos' section above)...I asked the South Devon Railway for permission to use that nice shot you found of an autotrain in 'Blood and Custard' by the River Dart. They answered my E-mail saying 'Yes' but I don't know how to go about including it. ChrisRed 14:21, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
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