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I have never seen such a fuc... up article on such an important intelligence organization as GRU. Do yourself a favor - Translate http://ru.wikipedia.org, or https://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/GRU or other f.. horror. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.112.5.131 ( talk) 17:44, 7 November 2013 (UTC)
It needs them badly. Common style of the article isn't neutrile and antirussian. There are alot of definatly antirussian sources like different defectors and others such peopels, there are alot of unprooven phrases from politicians, that looks more like populism, then well-weighted statements. This should be cleaned out. Even references list in the end begins with GRUs defectors and so on - I don't think this is correct, as it's not GRUs purpose. Oleg_Str
Could someone rewrite the following sentence:
During its history, the GRU was always a subordinate to the NKVD, its successors (KGB, etc.), the GRU has at different times, made very spectacular recruits of foreign agents, and was the first Soviet intelligence service, to exploit the lax security of western companies, and began to steal S&T (Science and technology) though this later became a domain controlled by KGB, under line x, later Directorate T.
It's a long, run-on sentence and I can't make heads nor tails of it. Abigail 16:25, May 14, 2004 (UTC)
Any objection to an article rename to the full name? To be more consistent with other Russian articles. - Joseph 04:24, 2004 Sep 4 (UTC)
Was the symbol of the GRU spetsnaz later adapted into Batman's symbol? The two are pretty much identical. I scanned through Batman's article, and nothing of the sort was listed under "Costume."
The emblem pictured on this page is NOT that of GRU. Along the bottom is does in fact say, in Russian, "Military intelligence," but along the top the acronym is "VS RF." I'm not sure what "VS" means, but "RF" certainly means "Russian Federation" ("Rossiiskaia federatsiia" in Russian). In other words, this emblem might be that of a post-Soviet successor organization, but it is NOT that of the Soviet-era GRU. Terrasirradient 16:00, 12 December 2006 (UTC)
This (see the second image) seems to imply that the logo (if not the GRU name) is still in current use. Lionfire 01:28, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
Vlad Fedorov deleted the following large portions of text:
During 2006 Georgian-Russian espionage controversy several GRU officers were accused by Georgian authorities of preparations to commit sabotage and terrorist acts. GRU detachments from Chechnya were transferred to Lebanon independently on the United Nations Interim Force in Lebanon after 2006 Israel-Lebanon conflict "to improve Russia’s image in the Arab world", according to Sergei Ivanov. [1] Zelimkhan Yandarbiyev was assassinated by two GRU officers. GRU officers are accused of creating criminal death squads [2]
Special services are making teams for extrajudicial punishment (Russian)] by Igor Korolkov,
Novaya Gazeta, January 11, 2007. </ref>
It was reported that GRU helped
Saddam Hussein to hide his
Weapons of mass destruction before
US invasion of Iraq in 2003
[3]Cite error: A <ref>
tag is missing the closing </ref>
(see the
help page).
[4]
Biophys 02:34, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
Someone just deleted again the text, ignoring that I provided six additional reliable references. He just said: "obvious anti-russian propaganda removed". This simply means: "I do not like it". Well, if you do not like it, please provide alternative good references that say: Russia did not help Saddam to hid his WMD. That would be just fine. But simply deleting well sourced text is vandalism. Of course this subject is controversial and may need a proper description of all "pro" and "contra" based on published sources. If this is the problem, I can create a separate article Russia and Saddam's weapons of mass destruction controversy. Any opinions? Can one suggest a better title? Biophys 18:29, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
At 16:38, 8 April 2007 (UTC) I placed a comment on the talk page of User_talk:Vlad_fedorov who has been conspicuous by
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First, this is article about GRU, not about Galkin. Of course, one can create a separate article about him and refer to this article here. Second, this text is based mostly on two articles from Novaya Gazeta, which is not accessible. According to WP:SOURCE#Language, "when editors use their own translations, the original-language material should be provided too, preferably in a footnote, so that readers can check the translation for themselves.". Please provide the original Russian text here or anywhere. Otherwise, this does not satisfy WP:SOURCE. Biophys 17:20, 9 April 2007 (UTC)
This is article about GRU. The claims about Saddam's WMD are controversial and only remotely related to this organization. One could tell only one or two phrases in this article, as it was in the initial version. But right now Vlad included a lot of text about it. So, it would be better to make a separate article about this controversy, and remove it from here. I will try to make this right now, since I might be blocked soon. Biophys 23:58, 11 April 2007 (UTC) Well, this might be yet another article for AfD. Still, let's try. If Wikipedia community decides to remove it - I do not care much. One thing for sure: a long story about Saddam's WMD does not belong here. Biophys 00:08, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
Biophys inserted information about Operation Sarindar by Pacepa. BUT PACEPA NOWHERE CLAIMS THAT OPERATION SARINDAR WAS PERFORMED BY GRU. User Biophys has made original research which should be deleted from the article immediately. Vlad fedorov 12:00, 28 April 2007 (UTC)
The GRU played a considerable role in Russia’s attempts to exploit the 1992-1993 war between Abkhazia and Georgia. While Moscow officially supported Georgia in the conflict, imposing sanctions against Abkhazia, the Minister of Defense, Pavel Grachev, provided considerable military support to the Abkhaz side, apparently on his own personal initiative. Anton Surikov, who as a GRU officer was directly involved in these events (many consider that he was Basaev’s kurator in Abkhazia, though he himself denies it), later stated: “That [Pavel Grachev] carried out in Abkhazia his own personal policy is true. And this, from the point of view of Russia’s interests, was a very useful and correct policy. Without Grachev Abkhazia would not have stood. He personally was the true organizer of the defense of the republic.” The Russian military, under Grachev’s command, at the very least allowed the Confederation of the Mountain Peoples of the Caucasus to send several volunteer battalions to back the Abkhaz, which proved key to the Abkhaz victory in 1993; most probably, these battalions also received logistical support and training from the GRU. Information has persistently surfaced that the Caucasian battalions’ most talented commander, Shamil Basaev, who was named Deputy Minister of Defense of Abkhazia, was trained at a GRU base near Volgograd in 1992. The GRU also reportedly deployed its own Spetznaz unit, under Surikov’s command, tasked, between August and October 1992, with eliminating Georgian field commanders. [1] Biophys 20:23, 1 July 2007 (UTC)
It is a feller. For this contractor. To pull out of the Wikipedia discussion field. In the hope . There are those who have forgiven the $ 5,000,000,000. Now wait patiently for a Entscheidung by the General Procurator. The other $ 20,000,000,000. In the same hope: to get peace and reconciliation with the GRU RF. Forgiveness has countless human lives. Everything has been around! Also . The favorable times are here. To ... complete something. Well. Where's the friends and relatives? Of 120 Russian sailors and naval officers killed. From "Kursk 141". No one stayed alive or what? 33Habujin ( talk) 16:25, 11 February 2020 (UTC)
The article is piece of junk. No organization structure, no historical timeline (only biased events, some does have nothing in common with GRU), no valid reference materials.
I think it should be completely reworked.
Thebiggestmac ( talk) 14:57, 19 February 2009 (UTC)
Sulim Yamadayev, who is apparently deceased, is mentioned in the present tense. The article also mentions the disbanded Vostok and Zapad battalions in the present tense. I'm not sure how to change this, but it needs to be changed for consistency. 97.125.51.63 ( talk) 00:07, 5 January 2010 (UTC)
New Chief of the Russian Military Intelligence... MAKS123 ( talk) 14:14, 22 January 2012 (UTC)
Really? As in Revolver Ocelot from MGS? Can he really be counted as a Historical Figure? He's a Video Game character!
What was the logo of gru in Soviet era? This image below rather won't be suitable in the soviet/stalinism especially era, especially because of tsar symbols... File:GRU emblem.svg 2.jpg — Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.68.103.25 ( talk) 03:00, 7 June 2012 (UTC)
It's beyond ridicalous, also see KGB or NKVD etc. -- Niemti ( talk) 17:16, 28 May 2013 (UTC)
I have looked through multiple pages and I can't find one that gives a SIMPLE (2-4 sentences) explanation of the relationship between GRU, KGB and NKVD beyond a simple statement like this. Reading entries on the Soviet Union on Wikipedia, I see all three referred to as the primary intelligence gathering agency and secret police force.
I know there is probably overlap between time periods when they all existed but I found the page on chronology of Soviet intelligence more confusing than enlightening. Espionage is such a hot topic for amateur scholars, there must be someone who can briefly outline the difference between GRU and these other two agencies and explain the history of their rivalry. That would be worth an entire article of its own. Thanks! 69.125.134.86 ( talk) 20:30, 23 July 2013 (UTC)
Come on guys, you know perfectly well that the full title is incomprehensible in English. We have a duty to communicate clearly in our language. GRU is what the title ought to be. Macdonald-ross ( talk) 10:11, 12 September 2013 (UTC)
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"In May 1992 the GRU was dissolved and became part of the new Russian Ministry of Defense. In 2006 the GRU moved to a new Headquarters complex at Khoroshovskoye Shosse.." These consecutive sentences seem to say that it was dissolved in May 1992, meaning that it no longer existed but that its existence continued 14 years later. Should it say that in May 1992 it was transferred fro one supervising authority to another, or should it say that it was dissolved in May 1992 and then it was restored to function at some later date? Perhaps we could just leave out "was dissolved and" so that the article says ""In May 1992 the GRU became part of the new Russian Ministry of Defense." Edison ( talk) 14:56, 14 July 2017 (UTC)
Needs complete section. Wikipietime ( talk) 21:15, 14 July 2017 (UTC)
The President has reorganized military intelligence. Just as with the KGB already happened. Since he has encountered some incompronesance ... Everyone has his arguments ... Simpoatisant1234567890987654323456 ( talk) 14:02, 24 October 2017 (UTC)
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The GRU that this article is about only came into existence in 1992, as part of the Russian Federation. If we're going to be including information on individuals like Klaus Fuchs, then I think either the primary infobox needs to be changed, or we need a new article making a distinction between the Soviet and post-Soviet organizations, akin to the SVR vs. the KGB. PvOberstein ( talk) 17:43, 8 April 2018 (UTC)
Is there an official way to pronounce "GRU"? I always thought each letter was pronounced individually (mostly based on TV), like FBI, but recently other people have argued with me that it's more like SEAL or SOCOM. Whatever the case, if there is a definitive correct way to pronounce it, then it would be helpful to have it written phonetically in the introduction of the article. -- Trifler ( talk) 09:02, 19 August 2018 (UTC)
Some of GU Colonel's feel kind of hunted. Even though . User's Wikipedia.org. That is sufficiently cultured. Highly intelligent content of internet users. All of them . Often and and long. In the academic, professorial Ciber society. Wikipedia online incyclopedia. Sensitive natures. No less diplomatic. As one of the most diplomatic diplomats. According to the M.G.I.M.O .. For Wikipedia user's. Administrators and Authors. Not required - an order, a decree, an order to be given. To get them to write a new topic. Develop or improve an old, forgotten topic. Expression of interest is sufficient. Public interest. Or ... administrative interests. State administration. Even more ! Civilian political leadership of the Russian Federation. First . Mr. President of the Russian Federation. Wladimir Putin. And also . Minister of Foreign Affairs, Mr Lavrov. And ... the Minister of Health. Mr. Michail Albertowitsch Muraschko. Shown a real interest. How can it be reduced ?! Political influence. Political force! At home and abroad. On the part of a Sicret Agenci, (state, military) administration. Under the pseudonym GU Russia. Military command of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation. Defense Minister. College of the Headquarters of the High Command. Manifested. All natural. Economic interest. To add. Foreign exchange holdings, savings, avuars. From "the state in the state in the state" (GU Russia). On the budget of the Ministry of Defense of Russia.
The knowledgeable user of Wikipedia. The employment contract with GU was not signed. Should she request a written order? To help . Contribute. Of course not! This is a matter of conscience, honor, likes and dislikes. From Wikipedia users. Who has signed a general contractor? Yes, perhaps .
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The result of the move request was: Moved to GRU (Russian Federation) and GRU (Soviet Union). ( non-admin closure) Vpab15 ( talk) 14:36, 23 April 2021 (UTC)
– Both of the current titles are pretty messy and don't really fit with the article titles policy. With regard to this page, it's title is just a collection of essentially meaningless letters that definitely don't satisfy common name. Meanwhile, "Main Intelligence Directorate (GRU)" is equivalent to if Federal Protective Service (Russia) was instead titled "Federal Protective Service (FSO)", meaning it isn't made clear by the title that that GRU article is only about the Soviet GRU. Thanks in advance, RadiculousJ ( talk) 05:21, 15 April 2021 (UTC)
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I have never seen such a fuc... up article on such an important intelligence organization as GRU. Do yourself a favor - Translate http://ru.wikipedia.org, or https://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/GRU or other f.. horror. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.112.5.131 ( talk) 17:44, 7 November 2013 (UTC)
It needs them badly. Common style of the article isn't neutrile and antirussian. There are alot of definatly antirussian sources like different defectors and others such peopels, there are alot of unprooven phrases from politicians, that looks more like populism, then well-weighted statements. This should be cleaned out. Even references list in the end begins with GRUs defectors and so on - I don't think this is correct, as it's not GRUs purpose. Oleg_Str
Could someone rewrite the following sentence:
During its history, the GRU was always a subordinate to the NKVD, its successors (KGB, etc.), the GRU has at different times, made very spectacular recruits of foreign agents, and was the first Soviet intelligence service, to exploit the lax security of western companies, and began to steal S&T (Science and technology) though this later became a domain controlled by KGB, under line x, later Directorate T.
It's a long, run-on sentence and I can't make heads nor tails of it. Abigail 16:25, May 14, 2004 (UTC)
Any objection to an article rename to the full name? To be more consistent with other Russian articles. - Joseph 04:24, 2004 Sep 4 (UTC)
Was the symbol of the GRU spetsnaz later adapted into Batman's symbol? The two are pretty much identical. I scanned through Batman's article, and nothing of the sort was listed under "Costume."
The emblem pictured on this page is NOT that of GRU. Along the bottom is does in fact say, in Russian, "Military intelligence," but along the top the acronym is "VS RF." I'm not sure what "VS" means, but "RF" certainly means "Russian Federation" ("Rossiiskaia federatsiia" in Russian). In other words, this emblem might be that of a post-Soviet successor organization, but it is NOT that of the Soviet-era GRU. Terrasirradient 16:00, 12 December 2006 (UTC)
This (see the second image) seems to imply that the logo (if not the GRU name) is still in current use. Lionfire 01:28, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
Vlad Fedorov deleted the following large portions of text:
During 2006 Georgian-Russian espionage controversy several GRU officers were accused by Georgian authorities of preparations to commit sabotage and terrorist acts. GRU detachments from Chechnya were transferred to Lebanon independently on the United Nations Interim Force in Lebanon after 2006 Israel-Lebanon conflict "to improve Russia’s image in the Arab world", according to Sergei Ivanov. [1] Zelimkhan Yandarbiyev was assassinated by two GRU officers. GRU officers are accused of creating criminal death squads [2]
Special services are making teams for extrajudicial punishment (Russian)] by Igor Korolkov,
Novaya Gazeta, January 11, 2007. </ref>
It was reported that GRU helped
Saddam Hussein to hide his
Weapons of mass destruction before
US invasion of Iraq in 2003
[3]Cite error: A <ref>
tag is missing the closing </ref>
(see the
help page).
[4]
Biophys 02:34, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
Someone just deleted again the text, ignoring that I provided six additional reliable references. He just said: "obvious anti-russian propaganda removed". This simply means: "I do not like it". Well, if you do not like it, please provide alternative good references that say: Russia did not help Saddam to hid his WMD. That would be just fine. But simply deleting well sourced text is vandalism. Of course this subject is controversial and may need a proper description of all "pro" and "contra" based on published sources. If this is the problem, I can create a separate article Russia and Saddam's weapons of mass destruction controversy. Any opinions? Can one suggest a better title? Biophys 18:29, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
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First, this is article about GRU, not about Galkin. Of course, one can create a separate article about him and refer to this article here. Second, this text is based mostly on two articles from Novaya Gazeta, which is not accessible. According to WP:SOURCE#Language, "when editors use their own translations, the original-language material should be provided too, preferably in a footnote, so that readers can check the translation for themselves.". Please provide the original Russian text here or anywhere. Otherwise, this does not satisfy WP:SOURCE. Biophys 17:20, 9 April 2007 (UTC)
This is article about GRU. The claims about Saddam's WMD are controversial and only remotely related to this organization. One could tell only one or two phrases in this article, as it was in the initial version. But right now Vlad included a lot of text about it. So, it would be better to make a separate article about this controversy, and remove it from here. I will try to make this right now, since I might be blocked soon. Biophys 23:58, 11 April 2007 (UTC) Well, this might be yet another article for AfD. Still, let's try. If Wikipedia community decides to remove it - I do not care much. One thing for sure: a long story about Saddam's WMD does not belong here. Biophys 00:08, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
Biophys inserted information about Operation Sarindar by Pacepa. BUT PACEPA NOWHERE CLAIMS THAT OPERATION SARINDAR WAS PERFORMED BY GRU. User Biophys has made original research which should be deleted from the article immediately. Vlad fedorov 12:00, 28 April 2007 (UTC)
The GRU played a considerable role in Russia’s attempts to exploit the 1992-1993 war between Abkhazia and Georgia. While Moscow officially supported Georgia in the conflict, imposing sanctions against Abkhazia, the Minister of Defense, Pavel Grachev, provided considerable military support to the Abkhaz side, apparently on his own personal initiative. Anton Surikov, who as a GRU officer was directly involved in these events (many consider that he was Basaev’s kurator in Abkhazia, though he himself denies it), later stated: “That [Pavel Grachev] carried out in Abkhazia his own personal policy is true. And this, from the point of view of Russia’s interests, was a very useful and correct policy. Without Grachev Abkhazia would not have stood. He personally was the true organizer of the defense of the republic.” The Russian military, under Grachev’s command, at the very least allowed the Confederation of the Mountain Peoples of the Caucasus to send several volunteer battalions to back the Abkhaz, which proved key to the Abkhaz victory in 1993; most probably, these battalions also received logistical support and training from the GRU. Information has persistently surfaced that the Caucasian battalions’ most talented commander, Shamil Basaev, who was named Deputy Minister of Defense of Abkhazia, was trained at a GRU base near Volgograd in 1992. The GRU also reportedly deployed its own Spetznaz unit, under Surikov’s command, tasked, between August and October 1992, with eliminating Georgian field commanders. [1] Biophys 20:23, 1 July 2007 (UTC)
It is a feller. For this contractor. To pull out of the Wikipedia discussion field. In the hope . There are those who have forgiven the $ 5,000,000,000. Now wait patiently for a Entscheidung by the General Procurator. The other $ 20,000,000,000. In the same hope: to get peace and reconciliation with the GRU RF. Forgiveness has countless human lives. Everything has been around! Also . The favorable times are here. To ... complete something. Well. Where's the friends and relatives? Of 120 Russian sailors and naval officers killed. From "Kursk 141". No one stayed alive or what? 33Habujin ( talk) 16:25, 11 February 2020 (UTC)
The article is piece of junk. No organization structure, no historical timeline (only biased events, some does have nothing in common with GRU), no valid reference materials.
I think it should be completely reworked.
Thebiggestmac ( talk) 14:57, 19 February 2009 (UTC)
Sulim Yamadayev, who is apparently deceased, is mentioned in the present tense. The article also mentions the disbanded Vostok and Zapad battalions in the present tense. I'm not sure how to change this, but it needs to be changed for consistency. 97.125.51.63 ( talk) 00:07, 5 January 2010 (UTC)
New Chief of the Russian Military Intelligence... MAKS123 ( talk) 14:14, 22 January 2012 (UTC)
Really? As in Revolver Ocelot from MGS? Can he really be counted as a Historical Figure? He's a Video Game character!
What was the logo of gru in Soviet era? This image below rather won't be suitable in the soviet/stalinism especially era, especially because of tsar symbols... File:GRU emblem.svg 2.jpg — Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.68.103.25 ( talk) 03:00, 7 June 2012 (UTC)
It's beyond ridicalous, also see KGB or NKVD etc. -- Niemti ( talk) 17:16, 28 May 2013 (UTC)
I have looked through multiple pages and I can't find one that gives a SIMPLE (2-4 sentences) explanation of the relationship between GRU, KGB and NKVD beyond a simple statement like this. Reading entries on the Soviet Union on Wikipedia, I see all three referred to as the primary intelligence gathering agency and secret police force.
I know there is probably overlap between time periods when they all existed but I found the page on chronology of Soviet intelligence more confusing than enlightening. Espionage is such a hot topic for amateur scholars, there must be someone who can briefly outline the difference between GRU and these other two agencies and explain the history of their rivalry. That would be worth an entire article of its own. Thanks! 69.125.134.86 ( talk) 20:30, 23 July 2013 (UTC)
Come on guys, you know perfectly well that the full title is incomprehensible in English. We have a duty to communicate clearly in our language. GRU is what the title ought to be. Macdonald-ross ( talk) 10:11, 12 September 2013 (UTC)
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there isn't enough info/structure about the Spetsnaz GRU to warrant a separate article. Lugnuthemvar ( talk) 09:35, 3 March 2014 (UTC)
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Please provide WP:RS telling that buildings on the image are indeed GRU headquarters. In addition, this looks like a TV screenshot. Is it? If so, this is a copyright violation. My very best wishes ( talk) 18:36, 1 September 2016 (UTC) Некоторые юные участники Википедия пишут и пишут о секретной работе Военной Разведки России . И, здесь важны мотивы . Зачем ? Почему ? Для чего ? Ну, естественно, чтобы помочь ! Улутшить ! И страничьку Википедия о Военной Разведки России . И, работу доблестных защитников Отчизны. Честно разделить оплату и почести за успешные ОП . Часть ,и, весомая часть , пологается их друзьям и компаньёнам из дружественных Организаций . Ведь наши офицеры нехотят всё себе заграбастать, а ? <IP for Wikipedia .ru block . Sorry> Pro Rolex2 ( talk) 13:42, 13 September 2016 (UTC)
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"In May 1992 the GRU was dissolved and became part of the new Russian Ministry of Defense. In 2006 the GRU moved to a new Headquarters complex at Khoroshovskoye Shosse.." These consecutive sentences seem to say that it was dissolved in May 1992, meaning that it no longer existed but that its existence continued 14 years later. Should it say that in May 1992 it was transferred fro one supervising authority to another, or should it say that it was dissolved in May 1992 and then it was restored to function at some later date? Perhaps we could just leave out "was dissolved and" so that the article says ""In May 1992 the GRU became part of the new Russian Ministry of Defense." Edison ( talk) 14:56, 14 July 2017 (UTC)
Needs complete section. Wikipietime ( talk) 21:15, 14 July 2017 (UTC)
The President has reorganized military intelligence. Just as with the KGB already happened. Since he has encountered some incompronesance ... Everyone has his arguments ... Simpoatisant1234567890987654323456 ( talk) 14:02, 24 October 2017 (UTC)
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The GRU that this article is about only came into existence in 1992, as part of the Russian Federation. If we're going to be including information on individuals like Klaus Fuchs, then I think either the primary infobox needs to be changed, or we need a new article making a distinction between the Soviet and post-Soviet organizations, akin to the SVR vs. the KGB. PvOberstein ( talk) 17:43, 8 April 2018 (UTC)
Is there an official way to pronounce "GRU"? I always thought each letter was pronounced individually (mostly based on TV), like FBI, but recently other people have argued with me that it's more like SEAL or SOCOM. Whatever the case, if there is a definitive correct way to pronounce it, then it would be helpful to have it written phonetically in the introduction of the article. -- Trifler ( talk) 09:02, 19 August 2018 (UTC)
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Infinitepeace ( talk) 04:35, 12 January 2021 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: Moved to GRU (Russian Federation) and GRU (Soviet Union). ( non-admin closure) Vpab15 ( talk) 14:36, 23 April 2021 (UTC)
– Both of the current titles are pretty messy and don't really fit with the article titles policy. With regard to this page, it's title is just a collection of essentially meaningless letters that definitely don't satisfy common name. Meanwhile, "Main Intelligence Directorate (GRU)" is equivalent to if Federal Protective Service (Russia) was instead titled "Federal Protective Service (FSO)", meaning it isn't made clear by the title that that GRU article is only about the Soviet GRU. Thanks in advance, RadiculousJ ( talk) 05:21, 15 April 2021 (UTC)
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The result of the move request was: not moved. ( closed by non-admin page mover) – robertsky ( talk) 12:51, 25 April 2023 (UTC)
GRU (Russian Federation) → GRU – no page should redirect to the page with the same name with brackets. ErceÇamurOfficial ( talk) 12:30, 18 April 2023 (UTC)
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