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Pretty sure it was the Curruid that became the Gae Bulg, and not the Coinchenn. See here:
"Two monsters that were upon the sea,
Which fought a fierce, angry battle;
Their names, I well remember were
The Curruid and the Coinchenn.
Curruid fell in the furious fight
By the noble, fierce Coinchenn;
Upon the boisterous, proud, Red Sea,
On the ridge of the cool and deep abyss.
Bolg Mac Buain, a champion famed,
Discovered the skull of the Curruid upon the strand,
Whither it fled from the sea abroad,
Closely pursued by the Coinchenn."
(-from a poem collected in the early 18th century, cited in On the Manners and Customs of the Ancient Irish, by Eugene Curry, 1873)
https://books.google.com/books?id=vbkLM59fuWEC&pg=PA311&lpg=PA311#v=onepage&q&f=false — Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.236.198.236 ( talk) 17:11, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
So I think the bone was taken from the Curruid, not the Coinchenn. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Araanim ( talk • contribs) 12:25, 16 August 2020 (UTC)
Uhm I am not too sure, but isn't the exact name Gáe Bolga?
it's a matter of orthography, which was not standardized when the stories in question were first written down. Whateley23 07:29, 27 August 2005 (UTC)
I have a question regarding Cu Chulainn's relation to Ferdiad. According to the legend the two warriors trained under Scáthach. It's just that I don't think they were foster brothers. I know that Cu Chulainn is Conall the Victorious' step brother. But I think that Cu Chulainn and Ferdiad were best friends. Sonalchagi 12:47, 27 July 2007 (UTC)
Thanks, I wan't aware that Scáthach, Úathach and Aífe were their foster mothers. That actually makes it kind of odd since there is a part about Cù chulainn "loving" Aífe. Sonalchagi 22:48, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
Given the description of the weapon, (ie it's ability to pierce nearly any shield, and/or armor, as well as lethal barbs) isn't possible that it's origins are in the Soliferrum? Also, the Gáe Bulg was supposedly wrought from the bones of a sea monster. IIRC, the bones of most supernatural beasts of the time were generally made of anything but (ordinary) bone. Behemoth, from the book of Job, for example, was described as having bones of iron. I know this is original research/ speculation, I'm just raising the question to find out if anyone with an actual specialty in such things has come to the same (or a similar) conclusion. 76.179.230.4 ( talk) 07:54, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
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The "In Popular Culture" article could simply be a sub-heading in the primary Gáe Bulg article. TheWhitefire ( talk) 17:50, 29 May 2010 (UTC)
Hey guys, Has this spear something to do with Bulgars and Scythians (Fir Bolg)? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nix1129 ( talk • contribs) 11:47, 11 November 2012 (UTC)
How exactly is Gáe Bulg pronounced? Can someone add this to the article? 80.222.35.215 ( talk) 19:48, 6 May 2016 (UTC)
Guy Bul-g. The accent on the a makes it an ah sound and the e changes that a bit, guy is close. Can also be Guy Bol-ga, depending on the spelling which has some variations. Compare the three variations of "sean" https://www.bitesize.irish/blog/our-fada/ I think that also puts the phonetic "ge" pronunciation as wrong as it is ignoring the fada. 216.154.62.174 ( talk) 15:27, 22 August 2019 (UTC)
What does "cast from the fork of the toes" mean? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:448:C300:6E10:65E7:516D:BCD1:19A1 ( talk) 03:25, 25 June 2021 (UTC)
Is there anything about a spear with a light or stone with light. 74.99.83.245 ( talk) 17:07, 22 October 2023 (UTC)
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Pretty sure it was the Curruid that became the Gae Bulg, and not the Coinchenn. See here:
"Two monsters that were upon the sea,
Which fought a fierce, angry battle;
Their names, I well remember were
The Curruid and the Coinchenn.
Curruid fell in the furious fight
By the noble, fierce Coinchenn;
Upon the boisterous, proud, Red Sea,
On the ridge of the cool and deep abyss.
Bolg Mac Buain, a champion famed,
Discovered the skull of the Curruid upon the strand,
Whither it fled from the sea abroad,
Closely pursued by the Coinchenn."
(-from a poem collected in the early 18th century, cited in On the Manners and Customs of the Ancient Irish, by Eugene Curry, 1873)
https://books.google.com/books?id=vbkLM59fuWEC&pg=PA311&lpg=PA311#v=onepage&q&f=false — Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.236.198.236 ( talk) 17:11, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
So I think the bone was taken from the Curruid, not the Coinchenn. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Araanim ( talk • contribs) 12:25, 16 August 2020 (UTC)
Uhm I am not too sure, but isn't the exact name Gáe Bolga?
it's a matter of orthography, which was not standardized when the stories in question were first written down. Whateley23 07:29, 27 August 2005 (UTC)
I have a question regarding Cu Chulainn's relation to Ferdiad. According to the legend the two warriors trained under Scáthach. It's just that I don't think they were foster brothers. I know that Cu Chulainn is Conall the Victorious' step brother. But I think that Cu Chulainn and Ferdiad were best friends. Sonalchagi 12:47, 27 July 2007 (UTC)
Thanks, I wan't aware that Scáthach, Úathach and Aífe were their foster mothers. That actually makes it kind of odd since there is a part about Cù chulainn "loving" Aífe. Sonalchagi 22:48, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
Given the description of the weapon, (ie it's ability to pierce nearly any shield, and/or armor, as well as lethal barbs) isn't possible that it's origins are in the Soliferrum? Also, the Gáe Bulg was supposedly wrought from the bones of a sea monster. IIRC, the bones of most supernatural beasts of the time were generally made of anything but (ordinary) bone. Behemoth, from the book of Job, for example, was described as having bones of iron. I know this is original research/ speculation, I'm just raising the question to find out if anyone with an actual specialty in such things has come to the same (or a similar) conclusion. 76.179.230.4 ( talk) 07:54, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
The image Image:Gae Bolg.jpg is used in this article under a claim of fair use, but it does not have an adequate explanation for why it meets the requirements for such images when used here. In particular, for each page the image is used on, it must have an explanation linking to that page which explains why it needs to be used on that page. Please check
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The "In Popular Culture" article could simply be a sub-heading in the primary Gáe Bulg article. TheWhitefire ( talk) 17:50, 29 May 2010 (UTC)
Hey guys, Has this spear something to do with Bulgars and Scythians (Fir Bolg)? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nix1129 ( talk • contribs) 11:47, 11 November 2012 (UTC)
How exactly is Gáe Bulg pronounced? Can someone add this to the article? 80.222.35.215 ( talk) 19:48, 6 May 2016 (UTC)
Guy Bul-g. The accent on the a makes it an ah sound and the e changes that a bit, guy is close. Can also be Guy Bol-ga, depending on the spelling which has some variations. Compare the three variations of "sean" https://www.bitesize.irish/blog/our-fada/ I think that also puts the phonetic "ge" pronunciation as wrong as it is ignoring the fada. 216.154.62.174 ( talk) 15:27, 22 August 2019 (UTC)
What does "cast from the fork of the toes" mean? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:448:C300:6E10:65E7:516D:BCD1:19A1 ( talk) 03:25, 25 June 2021 (UTC)
Is there anything about a spear with a light or stone with light. 74.99.83.245 ( talk) 17:07, 22 October 2023 (UTC)