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Didn't flora dances used to take place in many Cornish towns (or do they still)? I know in the C19th they used to have them on fair days etc. in a few places. Would this be relevant in the article? Also "FLORA DANCE" doesn't seem to redirect here. -- Cornishman5040 ( talk) 22:31, 4 March 2008 (UTC)
Yes Furrys did and still do take place in other towns, A furry is recorded in Penzance in the 19th century, St Day has its own furry dance and many others - Even the tune was not excluisive to Helston at one point being called "John the Bone" - Paul band is said to have played it in 1896 as part of the Nelwyn riots. Reedgunner ( talk) 09:19, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
The Furry Dance or Floral Dance is a British custom. Using the term British Isles implies incorrectly that it is also practised in Ireland. Either please provide a reference or citation to support the idea that this British custom is practised elsewhere, or please leave the article as it is. -- Bardcom ( talk) 12:28, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
It is a Cornish tradition, the Furry Dance. But this type of activity takes place throughout England and elsewhere in what we call the British Isles. It's OK to mention that fact. FootballPhil ( talk) 12:54, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
I found this: http://homepages.tesco.net/~k.wasley/Flora_Day.htm. Is it any use here? FootballPhil ( talk) 17:49, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=tSEcRkPO_C0C&pg=PA200&lpg=PA200&dq=%22Furry+Dance%22+%22British+Isles%22&source=web&ots=7iRzALztsn&sig=LODG6SFqPlIeJxVYu1GjKQ0bDKA&hl=en&sa=X&oi=book_result&resnum=3&ct=result It's a google books search. There are several other sources like this one. —Preceding unsigned comment added by FootballPhil ( talk • contribs) 20:07, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
"Even in the British Isles, there are still a few remnants of ancient dragon processions for good spring weather. At one time there were a great many such festivals. Most of the significance has been lost because of extreme propaganda by the church. In Britain many of the dragon figures carried in the processions have been destroyed. One of the few remaining is carried each May as part of the Helston Furry Dance."
Dancing with Dragons by D. J. Conway (p176). Published 1995
This is also on Google Books if you want to search it. FootballPhil ( talk) 16:55, 19 July 2008 (UTC)
(summary)Since no references can be found to back up "British Isles" in a reasonable time period, I'm reverting to what the references state. -- HighKing ( talk) 08:17, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
I have removed the following (unsubstantiated) sentence: "However the modern variant of the dance holds few similarities with the proposed original, having been revived long after the event had died out." and included a reference from 1790. The description of events described there is closely similar to the modern-day custom. Arcencielltd ( talk)
But I don't know how to. I'm about to sell a postcard on ebay. I have made a good photographic copy of it. It depicts the Flora day Furry dance on 10th May 1905. contact me on astro_nomenoff@yahoo.com and I will email a copy for someone to place on this article is they wish. I am not a wikimedian and don't know how to do such a thing! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Astro nomenoff ( talk • contribs) 09:54, 20 August 2009 (UTC)
"During his period of office as Lord Mayor he made a ceremonial visit to Cornwall, the county from which his ancestors came. [1] He was at Helston for the 1907 Furry Dance and had the honour of leading the full dress dance at noon on May 8. [2]"--As a single event this may not be worth including in the article; it has been added to Treloar's article.-- Felix Folio Secundus ( talk) 04:13, 16 June 2011 (UTC)
Why does Floral Dance redirect here if it's incorrect? Surely the song The Floral Dance is more widely known than this local ritual. Gymnophoria ( talk) 01:13, 16 February 2012 (UTC)
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Before Helston was a port, in Roman Times according to an 1825 document, the name 'Halanguim' was assimulated to the original name of Helston, before 'Henlys' or 'Henlis' (as it was known, also before the inland harbour was built). That would have meant 'stream of the hollow'. However, in the early days of the 'Hal-an-Tow' it may have started near the Cober surrounded by sea sand (after 1014 when the flint sand was washed from the drowned Channel terraces across Mounts Bay in the 28th September tsunami. That is the only other remotely possible origin of the name : stream of the sand = 'tewas'. Werdna Yrneh Yarg ( talk) Andrew H. Gray 11:20, 28 January 2019 (UTC)
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Didn't flora dances used to take place in many Cornish towns (or do they still)? I know in the C19th they used to have them on fair days etc. in a few places. Would this be relevant in the article? Also "FLORA DANCE" doesn't seem to redirect here. -- Cornishman5040 ( talk) 22:31, 4 March 2008 (UTC)
Yes Furrys did and still do take place in other towns, A furry is recorded in Penzance in the 19th century, St Day has its own furry dance and many others - Even the tune was not excluisive to Helston at one point being called "John the Bone" - Paul band is said to have played it in 1896 as part of the Nelwyn riots. Reedgunner ( talk) 09:19, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
The Furry Dance or Floral Dance is a British custom. Using the term British Isles implies incorrectly that it is also practised in Ireland. Either please provide a reference or citation to support the idea that this British custom is practised elsewhere, or please leave the article as it is. -- Bardcom ( talk) 12:28, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
It is a Cornish tradition, the Furry Dance. But this type of activity takes place throughout England and elsewhere in what we call the British Isles. It's OK to mention that fact. FootballPhil ( talk) 12:54, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
I found this: http://homepages.tesco.net/~k.wasley/Flora_Day.htm. Is it any use here? FootballPhil ( talk) 17:49, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=tSEcRkPO_C0C&pg=PA200&lpg=PA200&dq=%22Furry+Dance%22+%22British+Isles%22&source=web&ots=7iRzALztsn&sig=LODG6SFqPlIeJxVYu1GjKQ0bDKA&hl=en&sa=X&oi=book_result&resnum=3&ct=result It's a google books search. There are several other sources like this one. —Preceding unsigned comment added by FootballPhil ( talk • contribs) 20:07, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
"Even in the British Isles, there are still a few remnants of ancient dragon processions for good spring weather. At one time there were a great many such festivals. Most of the significance has been lost because of extreme propaganda by the church. In Britain many of the dragon figures carried in the processions have been destroyed. One of the few remaining is carried each May as part of the Helston Furry Dance."
Dancing with Dragons by D. J. Conway (p176). Published 1995
This is also on Google Books if you want to search it. FootballPhil ( talk) 16:55, 19 July 2008 (UTC)
(summary)Since no references can be found to back up "British Isles" in a reasonable time period, I'm reverting to what the references state. -- HighKing ( talk) 08:17, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
I have removed the following (unsubstantiated) sentence: "However the modern variant of the dance holds few similarities with the proposed original, having been revived long after the event had died out." and included a reference from 1790. The description of events described there is closely similar to the modern-day custom. Arcencielltd ( talk)
But I don't know how to. I'm about to sell a postcard on ebay. I have made a good photographic copy of it. It depicts the Flora day Furry dance on 10th May 1905. contact me on astro_nomenoff@yahoo.com and I will email a copy for someone to place on this article is they wish. I am not a wikimedian and don't know how to do such a thing! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Astro nomenoff ( talk • contribs) 09:54, 20 August 2009 (UTC)
"During his period of office as Lord Mayor he made a ceremonial visit to Cornwall, the county from which his ancestors came. [1] He was at Helston for the 1907 Furry Dance and had the honour of leading the full dress dance at noon on May 8. [2]"--As a single event this may not be worth including in the article; it has been added to Treloar's article.-- Felix Folio Secundus ( talk) 04:13, 16 June 2011 (UTC)
Why does Floral Dance redirect here if it's incorrect? Surely the song The Floral Dance is more widely known than this local ritual. Gymnophoria ( talk) 01:13, 16 February 2012 (UTC)
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Before Helston was a port, in Roman Times according to an 1825 document, the name 'Halanguim' was assimulated to the original name of Helston, before 'Henlys' or 'Henlis' (as it was known, also before the inland harbour was built). That would have meant 'stream of the hollow'. However, in the early days of the 'Hal-an-Tow' it may have started near the Cober surrounded by sea sand (after 1014 when the flint sand was washed from the drowned Channel terraces across Mounts Bay in the 28th September tsunami. That is the only other remotely possible origin of the name : stream of the sand = 'tewas'. Werdna Yrneh Yarg ( talk) Andrew H. Gray 11:20, 28 January 2019 (UTC)