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As usual, there is still someone who like erasing links Everybody can see this. Who the f--k enjoy to erase a link about an interview or a web site ?????
TCHIKY ` —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.2.157.109 ( talk) 14:21, 27 September 2007 (UTC)
I'm cleaning this up. This article has specifically copied from http://www.theworld.org/globalhits/2005/06/30.shtml. Secondly, the song "Ta Tudo Dominado" has also been credited to Bonde do Tigrao. Which one is correct?
the correct is SD Boys, i think.
Furacão 2000 is not an artist. its a soundsytem/label/club.
14:03, 9 February 2006 (UTC)
-retrigger
I had made some corrections on the artists list. "so as cachorra" and "o baile todo" is the same song, by bonde do tigrao. i have added SD boys for their hits "ta dominado" and "ah eu to maluco". Also have deleted some artist that had little to do with the real funk and were using this to promote themselves...
I'm not sure if MIA and Diplo should be there, but i haven't change it.
200.150.47.66 Retrigger
I changed the translation of the word "baile", that no means "ball"!!!, ball in portuguese is "bola", I dont know exactly word in english, but baile is a dance party, like in so many USA schools in the end of a week for example, but this is nothing. I think that the brazilian miami bass funk is a shit, because it diminishes the tradicional funk, and they don´t know what is... when you say that you like funk in brazil they will think that you like carioca brazilian´s funk, they don´t know that is only a derivative form of funk. 14:03, 9 February 2006 (UTC) -retrigger
I have filled up many infos about the baile funk history, it seems you guys are cool. please help place better the source BATIDÃO UMA HISTÓRIA DO FUNK book from Rio de Janeiro, 2005 by SILVIO ESSINGER, its truly only real trustable info avaliable about exausting facts collected trough 5 years and the writer is a proeminent brazillian researcher and music journalist Pittigliani 22:05, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
how does brazilian funk relate to baile funk; is it the same or something slightly different? the brazilian funk notes that the "funk is viewed as a overly loud, aggressive, sociopathic form of music by many of brazilian elite" where as this one states "Thousands of people of all social classes and backgrounds will gather to attend these events". i'm confused. -- MilkMiruku 05:03, 13 November 2005 (UTC)
Both are the same thing. I havent heard anyone calling it brazilian funk, tho. Probally, just outside brazil. i suggest to delete brazilian funk and replace it with this one, far more complete.
I think "funk is viewed as a overly loud, aggressive, sociopathic form of music by many of brazilian elite", specially in its proibidão form. But there is the mainstream funk, supported by DJ Malboro (biggest dj and one of the inventors), that are on comercials and all radio waves. Anyway, rich people mostly dont go to bailes. You can see people from other social classes in a baile, but they are minority. bailes are made for the favela population. period.
200.150.47.66 retrigger
That this genre of music is sociopathic it is clear from the context: the songs are imbibed with violence, gratuitous glorification of crime, poor-tates mentions of sex, etc. 201.59.1.140 04:01, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
The truth is that most people in Brazil don't refer to Brazilian Funk in such way, it's just Funk to them. Also, this genre of music is, today, totally mainstream in Brazil, although it is considered ghetto, you can see it in most popular tv channels and shows on an almost daily basis, and to say that rich people don't usually listen to it or go to the "balls" is the same thing as stating that rich people don't listen to Hip-Hop in US. Onikas ( talk) 13:58, 16 April 2008 (UTC)
Why does it say "Funk Carioca ("Funk from Rio" in Brazilian Portuguese)"?....would it not be correct to write the opposite? Example: "Funk from Rio ("Funk Carioca" in Brazilian Portuguese)" as Funk Carioca is the term in BR Portuguese... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.188.5.66 ( talk) 18:25, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
When I discovered this entry many months back, it simply stated that Baile Funk was Miami Bass from Brazil. After meeting with many Brazilian Bass artists, they explained to me that "Baile Funk" was the name of the parties, and "Funk Carioca" was the name of the music.
In Portuguese, the adjective comes after the noun. So "red car" would be "car of red". Therefore, Baile Funk translates to "[Baile]dance party of [Funk] Bass music", and Funk Carioca translates to "[Funk] Bass [Carioca] from Rio".
I discovered the mistranslation came from labels outside of Brazil compiling the music and calling it Baile Funk in error thinking Baile was the adjective and Funk was the subject since English places adjectives first. With the term Baile Funk, baile is the subject - it's a dance party, and Funk describes what type of party.
I came here months ago and added to the entry that "Baile Funk" now represents the party itself to Brazilians, and the music itself to people outside brazil...but during the cleanup, my words got mangled to say that Baile Funk is English slang. If I alter my words back, it will destroy the entry, and I'd have to rewrite the entire thing. Being a mod went out of their way to do the cleanup, I don't want to destroy their work.
Can you please redefine this entry to take in account the description above?
While I agree that Baile Funk generally refers to the parties, I know Brazilians and Funk artists that now refer to it as Baile Funk. In fact, my friends that live in the favelas told me that "Funk Carioca" is something used by the mainstream media and press. I speak Portuguese and am aware of its meaning in the language. While it may be worth noting the dual meaning of this, this article devotes way too much time on the distinction and in fact its English name (whether misinterpreted or not) has become Baile Funk. ---- cut copy 03:18, 28 December 2005 (UTC)
I think the music now has the name of the party. The same happened with jamaican ragga, most known as Dance Hall. In rio, they use the name Funk. just funk. or even "the sound of the bailes". Funk carioca is the term used in other states. I vote here for baile funk as the new name of the genre. 201.58.51.112Retrigger
I don't think the recent edit that added the Funk category was correct at all. As explained in the article, Funk Carioca has very little to do with American Funk.
Agreed. That's why I removed it. -- cut copy 03:15, 28 December 2005 (UTC)
Hi, could you please include how to pronounce these brazilian-exported words.
Hi all,
I made a few changes to the article, especially regarding the naming of the genre, and the difference between Baile Funk (the party) and Funk (the music). I also added a tag suggesting this should be merged into Brazilian funk.
Even though this article is more complete than Brazilian funk, and increasingly the genre is being called "Baile funk" in English, I feel this article should not be under this name. There could be an article with this name about the bailes themselves, but it shouldn't be about the music genre.
The use of the term "baile funk" in English is, as far as I can tell, a misnomer (but see last paragraph of this comment for a possible alternate explanation). Of course Wikipedia should not advocate what the proper name for the music should be (as we are only supposed to describe what IS), and indeed, as I said already, it has increasingly been called by that name, at least in North America. But it seems to me that this is a recently-imported term, and therefore its usage hasn't stabilized enough that we could conclude that this is the most common name (in English) for this music genre. I'm not 100% sure that "Brazilian funk" is the best title for the article either, but so far it seems the best candidate. There should be a redirect from "Baile funk" to "Brazilian funk" (or whatever article name is chosen; unless someone creates an article specifically about the bailes) and, obviously, mention that Brazilian funk is also known, in English, as "Baile funk". But "Baile funk" is not an appropriate name for this article, in my opinion.
On the other hand, though, someone could advocate that the expression "Baile Funk", in English, means "Funk from the Bailes [funk]", but I don't think that is the rationale of the people who currently call it that, and I think it's somewhat counterproductive to use that label, due to the confusion with the Portuguese expression.
-- Cotoco 20:09, 18 May 2006 (UTC)
I made some major changes regarding the definition of "Funk Carioca" and merged it with the former "Brazilian Funk" page. NeedABrain 20:55, 12 June 2006 (UTC)
I've placed the main contents of Brazilian Funk article in this page and I'm redirecting it again. I copy-pasted and slightly edited the paragraphs through this article, without contempting about their validity. Feel free to edit the new contents, please just don't de-merge the articles again. NeedABrain 20:19, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
A lot of non-Brazilian artists have appriated the style of funk do Rio: Diplo, M.I.A., Peahes, etc. There should be something in here about this. — Morganfitzp 13:13, 27 October 2006 (UTC)
Hello, I don't know what are the policies here, but I cleaned up the links section and organized it better. There we're many links that had nothing or little to do with baile funk, or were expired. (Tchiky; your mix had expired, can you put it back?) I think it's much clearer now. Please let me know if you disagree... Dj Rideon from Helsinki Finland. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 137.163.31.190 ( talk) 16:49, 19 September 2007 (UTC)
Yes looks much Better.
Thanks mate.
Sorry Rideon, i dont have any new link yet for my mix.
If u got one, please put it.
Tchiky —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.212.61.149 ( talk) 00:33, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
Pittigliani is abusing. Always editing and erasing sources. PLEASE STOP IT. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 87.91.23.85 ( talk) 14:40, 29 April 2007 (UTC).
Please stop adding inappropriate links to Wikipedia. It is considered spamming and will be removed. Thanks. Shadowbot 17:27, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
hi you all, please keep on commenting, I'm really involved into adding more REFERENCED infos about baile funk. 87.91.23.85, I received your msn message, you should sign your editing, you're mentioned at the article, please check sources, make the text clean, objective, try to add more about small labels, or the experience in France - you'll notice at the history section I've kept on some interesting changes you've made(like naming Jerome Pigeon with his artistic name Gringo da Parada). I took off 2 old links were the files were removed, too, and rearranged and cleaned in general the topics, I'd love to have solid referenced comments on that. Shadowboat thanks, I'm not exactly a writer, need parameters, and I'll try to involve more people on this. I am a label manager, but my label is not at the article. Pittigliani 01:55, 1 May 2007 (UTC)
Dear Adriana Pittigliani "label manager",
Yes u can be involved. Thats not the problem.
Be involved but dont erase sources like my mix (or dont erase just a character of the link just to male it not working). .
Dont put Sandrinho in the top of the list coz u wanna promote ur artist. You are saying you wanna put in alphabetical order ?
Explain where is your alphabetical order ??????????????????? (be serious, u must be kidding.);
Its really funny to see Marlboro in the top of the list with Sandrinho and Sany at the end...(what kind of alphabetical order is it ??? ).
A B C D E F G... ETC ETC ...( check the new track of JUSTICE and sing it it could help you lol ).
Dont erase the names of others djs, or dont put them in the top of the list just because you wanna PROMOTE your artist.
Label manager of WHAT? You release records? Do you produce anything? Just publishing may be ?
Ah yes thats true u do management for DJ SANY a.k.a the maesto... We ve all see it.
Other stuff, you could be right about the music, saying that Baile funk is a party not a style of music.
But here in Europe and US we call it Baile Funk and it wont changee even if u got a "label" (myspace or blog may be???) called CARIOCAFUNKCLUBE.
TCHIKY
ps: you dont have to edit this message. Not necessary .
dear Pittigliani, label manager of Funkcariocaclube who produce EXPERIMENTAL music:
Yeah yeah, where did you find out this Zulu King about Sandrinho?
Nobody uses that even him. Dont use this kind of stuff, he doesnt need it and means nothing to him.
yes thats funny ur organisation, about djs and mcs in Wikipedia. I saw it of course.
But why Sany doesnt have this "DJ" before his name????
Really strange isnt it??? of course u dont have any answers...
Dont you know in Brasil many guyz inverse the dj name like DENNIS DJ or CAVERNA DJ or what ever...
Sorry, i wont mail you and like i told you last time, i dont need and i dont want to be in contact with you...
TCHIKY
ps: like i said before you dont need to edit my post. THANKS
There are some "Bailes Funk" that let women (and underage girls too) in for free in case they are not wearing their underwears. I know this may sound absurd, but that's exactly why I believe it's worth adding to the "Criticism" section. However, I didn't find a reliable source for it. If anyone finds it, please do add to the article. Victor Lopes ( talk) 23:47, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
Added some background and derivatives. Fixed some words and wikilinks per Wikipedia:Manual of Style. -- 201.78.66.174 ( talk) 13:42, 20 October 2009 (UTC)
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Im can say im an expert on Funk, is almost the only thing i think on my life, im kind of addicted, i just dont know why too, my heart fills with hope when i think on the people who dream to be a singer, people who are able to save their famillies with it... theres not a single day i dont think about Funk on 4 years, i have more then 150'000minutes of Funk on spotify all types... i sing and compose too, soon ill produce it, só dont delete my fixes Teo82710 ( talk) 07:27, 12 April 2021 (UTC)
Wikipedia simply just dosent work, no one adds the newest events (after 2010), when i add i cant add references, when i add without references people delete all the text even though real life is my reference my own eyes are my best reference, wikipedia will never be able to express Funk's culture in any words, im not allowed to write about my culture to everyone understand it but everyone is allowed to add fake information and steriotyping my culture on wikipedia, this is bullshit im not trying to fix this anymore, i have mutch more real things to do, and an advise (dont take this "Funk Carioca" page seriously, i live in this culture, and i can say that most of this text are wrong, even insulting to me, the truth is that people here just want everyone to be happy, the most happy you can get) Teo82710 ( talk) 20:31, 3 May 2021 (UTC)
I cant add sources, all the experiences i added are something that everyone sees in here, theres even a motto who says "só quem é daqui sabe" means "only whos from here knows" thats why there wont be good references in the internet, and is impossible to rely this text on the internet, Funk is something that dosent get to be in the internet, in Brasil the only things that goes on the internet is what we cant see in real life, the aglomerate of bad things, Funk is a good thing, thats why the internet dosent talk about, last time the internet was talking about that was: may2021: when MCKevin DIED, by falling from the 5 floor. March2021 when every single succeded singer has been ACCUSED by the POLICE of beeing linked to the DRUG TRAFIC (resulted into nothing), feb2021 where the POLOCE INVADED SalvadorDaRima's home without "rights". Ass you can see they are all bad things, and this is only 1 proof that theres no right information about Funk in the internet, theres no right information about nothing in Brasil on the internet, the media only causes terror (cause thats what gives money), and no one here is earning money to right this text, we are just following the steps of ganacious people, reling our information on the work of people that only wants more money from the concern of the Brasilean People, terrifing them. Teo82710 ( talk) 14:57, 5 June 2021 (UTC)
Does anyone else here think Funk carioca deserves a template? It has some subgenres, and there is even a category named "Funk carioca genres." 47.36.25.163 ( talk) 20:24, 1 June 2022 (UTC)
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This post refers to the "Subgenre" section, not the entire article.
There seems to be a misunderstanding about what constitutes Brazilian funk and Brazilian phonk.
As the Wikipedia article notes, funk carioca is commonly known as Brazilian funk, especially outside Brazil.
Although it is inaccurate to categorize Brazilian funk as "Brazilian phonk," a recent trend has emerged where music producers remix phonk songs with Brazilian funk beats and lyrics, gaining popularity on TikTok. These producers often refer to it as "Brazilian phonk." I think this constitutes a sub-genre called brazilian phonk. However, it is inappropriate for the Wikipedia article to use the title "Brazilian funk" to describe a sub-genre of phonk, as it is currently.
Brazilian funk and Brazilian phonk are distinct. When phonk songs incorporate Brazilian funk elements, it becomes a subgenre known as Brazilian phonk. However, stating that "Brazilian funk is a sub-genre of phonk" is incorrect. Brazilian funk is specifically carioca funk with origins dating back several decades.
Confusion arises when phonks with Brazilian funk elements go viral and are popularized as "Brazilian phonk." Users listening to raw Brazilian funk then associate these elements with the "Brazilian phonk" subgenre, mistaking it for phonk rather than funk.
I recommend maintaining the title (in the sub-genre section) as "Brazilian phonk" to prevent further confusion in the discussion.
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As usual, there is still someone who like erasing links Everybody can see this. Who the f--k enjoy to erase a link about an interview or a web site ?????
TCHIKY ` —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.2.157.109 ( talk) 14:21, 27 September 2007 (UTC)
I'm cleaning this up. This article has specifically copied from http://www.theworld.org/globalhits/2005/06/30.shtml. Secondly, the song "Ta Tudo Dominado" has also been credited to Bonde do Tigrao. Which one is correct?
the correct is SD Boys, i think.
Furacão 2000 is not an artist. its a soundsytem/label/club.
14:03, 9 February 2006 (UTC)
-retrigger
I had made some corrections on the artists list. "so as cachorra" and "o baile todo" is the same song, by bonde do tigrao. i have added SD boys for their hits "ta dominado" and "ah eu to maluco". Also have deleted some artist that had little to do with the real funk and were using this to promote themselves...
I'm not sure if MIA and Diplo should be there, but i haven't change it.
200.150.47.66 Retrigger
I changed the translation of the word "baile", that no means "ball"!!!, ball in portuguese is "bola", I dont know exactly word in english, but baile is a dance party, like in so many USA schools in the end of a week for example, but this is nothing. I think that the brazilian miami bass funk is a shit, because it diminishes the tradicional funk, and they don´t know what is... when you say that you like funk in brazil they will think that you like carioca brazilian´s funk, they don´t know that is only a derivative form of funk. 14:03, 9 February 2006 (UTC) -retrigger
I have filled up many infos about the baile funk history, it seems you guys are cool. please help place better the source BATIDÃO UMA HISTÓRIA DO FUNK book from Rio de Janeiro, 2005 by SILVIO ESSINGER, its truly only real trustable info avaliable about exausting facts collected trough 5 years and the writer is a proeminent brazillian researcher and music journalist Pittigliani 22:05, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
how does brazilian funk relate to baile funk; is it the same or something slightly different? the brazilian funk notes that the "funk is viewed as a overly loud, aggressive, sociopathic form of music by many of brazilian elite" where as this one states "Thousands of people of all social classes and backgrounds will gather to attend these events". i'm confused. -- MilkMiruku 05:03, 13 November 2005 (UTC)
Both are the same thing. I havent heard anyone calling it brazilian funk, tho. Probally, just outside brazil. i suggest to delete brazilian funk and replace it with this one, far more complete.
I think "funk is viewed as a overly loud, aggressive, sociopathic form of music by many of brazilian elite", specially in its proibidão form. But there is the mainstream funk, supported by DJ Malboro (biggest dj and one of the inventors), that are on comercials and all radio waves. Anyway, rich people mostly dont go to bailes. You can see people from other social classes in a baile, but they are minority. bailes are made for the favela population. period.
200.150.47.66 retrigger
That this genre of music is sociopathic it is clear from the context: the songs are imbibed with violence, gratuitous glorification of crime, poor-tates mentions of sex, etc. 201.59.1.140 04:01, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
The truth is that most people in Brazil don't refer to Brazilian Funk in such way, it's just Funk to them. Also, this genre of music is, today, totally mainstream in Brazil, although it is considered ghetto, you can see it in most popular tv channels and shows on an almost daily basis, and to say that rich people don't usually listen to it or go to the "balls" is the same thing as stating that rich people don't listen to Hip-Hop in US. Onikas ( talk) 13:58, 16 April 2008 (UTC)
Why does it say "Funk Carioca ("Funk from Rio" in Brazilian Portuguese)"?....would it not be correct to write the opposite? Example: "Funk from Rio ("Funk Carioca" in Brazilian Portuguese)" as Funk Carioca is the term in BR Portuguese... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.188.5.66 ( talk) 18:25, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
When I discovered this entry many months back, it simply stated that Baile Funk was Miami Bass from Brazil. After meeting with many Brazilian Bass artists, they explained to me that "Baile Funk" was the name of the parties, and "Funk Carioca" was the name of the music.
In Portuguese, the adjective comes after the noun. So "red car" would be "car of red". Therefore, Baile Funk translates to "[Baile]dance party of [Funk] Bass music", and Funk Carioca translates to "[Funk] Bass [Carioca] from Rio".
I discovered the mistranslation came from labels outside of Brazil compiling the music and calling it Baile Funk in error thinking Baile was the adjective and Funk was the subject since English places adjectives first. With the term Baile Funk, baile is the subject - it's a dance party, and Funk describes what type of party.
I came here months ago and added to the entry that "Baile Funk" now represents the party itself to Brazilians, and the music itself to people outside brazil...but during the cleanup, my words got mangled to say that Baile Funk is English slang. If I alter my words back, it will destroy the entry, and I'd have to rewrite the entire thing. Being a mod went out of their way to do the cleanup, I don't want to destroy their work.
Can you please redefine this entry to take in account the description above?
While I agree that Baile Funk generally refers to the parties, I know Brazilians and Funk artists that now refer to it as Baile Funk. In fact, my friends that live in the favelas told me that "Funk Carioca" is something used by the mainstream media and press. I speak Portuguese and am aware of its meaning in the language. While it may be worth noting the dual meaning of this, this article devotes way too much time on the distinction and in fact its English name (whether misinterpreted or not) has become Baile Funk. ---- cut copy 03:18, 28 December 2005 (UTC)
I think the music now has the name of the party. The same happened with jamaican ragga, most known as Dance Hall. In rio, they use the name Funk. just funk. or even "the sound of the bailes". Funk carioca is the term used in other states. I vote here for baile funk as the new name of the genre. 201.58.51.112Retrigger
I don't think the recent edit that added the Funk category was correct at all. As explained in the article, Funk Carioca has very little to do with American Funk.
Agreed. That's why I removed it. -- cut copy 03:15, 28 December 2005 (UTC)
Hi, could you please include how to pronounce these brazilian-exported words.
Hi all,
I made a few changes to the article, especially regarding the naming of the genre, and the difference between Baile Funk (the party) and Funk (the music). I also added a tag suggesting this should be merged into Brazilian funk.
Even though this article is more complete than Brazilian funk, and increasingly the genre is being called "Baile funk" in English, I feel this article should not be under this name. There could be an article with this name about the bailes themselves, but it shouldn't be about the music genre.
The use of the term "baile funk" in English is, as far as I can tell, a misnomer (but see last paragraph of this comment for a possible alternate explanation). Of course Wikipedia should not advocate what the proper name for the music should be (as we are only supposed to describe what IS), and indeed, as I said already, it has increasingly been called by that name, at least in North America. But it seems to me that this is a recently-imported term, and therefore its usage hasn't stabilized enough that we could conclude that this is the most common name (in English) for this music genre. I'm not 100% sure that "Brazilian funk" is the best title for the article either, but so far it seems the best candidate. There should be a redirect from "Baile funk" to "Brazilian funk" (or whatever article name is chosen; unless someone creates an article specifically about the bailes) and, obviously, mention that Brazilian funk is also known, in English, as "Baile funk". But "Baile funk" is not an appropriate name for this article, in my opinion.
On the other hand, though, someone could advocate that the expression "Baile Funk", in English, means "Funk from the Bailes [funk]", but I don't think that is the rationale of the people who currently call it that, and I think it's somewhat counterproductive to use that label, due to the confusion with the Portuguese expression.
-- Cotoco 20:09, 18 May 2006 (UTC)
I made some major changes regarding the definition of "Funk Carioca" and merged it with the former "Brazilian Funk" page. NeedABrain 20:55, 12 June 2006 (UTC)
I've placed the main contents of Brazilian Funk article in this page and I'm redirecting it again. I copy-pasted and slightly edited the paragraphs through this article, without contempting about their validity. Feel free to edit the new contents, please just don't de-merge the articles again. NeedABrain 20:19, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
A lot of non-Brazilian artists have appriated the style of funk do Rio: Diplo, M.I.A., Peahes, etc. There should be something in here about this. — Morganfitzp 13:13, 27 October 2006 (UTC)
Hello, I don't know what are the policies here, but I cleaned up the links section and organized it better. There we're many links that had nothing or little to do with baile funk, or were expired. (Tchiky; your mix had expired, can you put it back?) I think it's much clearer now. Please let me know if you disagree... Dj Rideon from Helsinki Finland. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 137.163.31.190 ( talk) 16:49, 19 September 2007 (UTC)
Yes looks much Better.
Thanks mate.
Sorry Rideon, i dont have any new link yet for my mix.
If u got one, please put it.
Tchiky —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.212.61.149 ( talk) 00:33, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
Pittigliani is abusing. Always editing and erasing sources. PLEASE STOP IT. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 87.91.23.85 ( talk) 14:40, 29 April 2007 (UTC).
Please stop adding inappropriate links to Wikipedia. It is considered spamming and will be removed. Thanks. Shadowbot 17:27, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
hi you all, please keep on commenting, I'm really involved into adding more REFERENCED infos about baile funk. 87.91.23.85, I received your msn message, you should sign your editing, you're mentioned at the article, please check sources, make the text clean, objective, try to add more about small labels, or the experience in France - you'll notice at the history section I've kept on some interesting changes you've made(like naming Jerome Pigeon with his artistic name Gringo da Parada). I took off 2 old links were the files were removed, too, and rearranged and cleaned in general the topics, I'd love to have solid referenced comments on that. Shadowboat thanks, I'm not exactly a writer, need parameters, and I'll try to involve more people on this. I am a label manager, but my label is not at the article. Pittigliani 01:55, 1 May 2007 (UTC)
Dear Adriana Pittigliani "label manager",
Yes u can be involved. Thats not the problem.
Be involved but dont erase sources like my mix (or dont erase just a character of the link just to male it not working). .
Dont put Sandrinho in the top of the list coz u wanna promote ur artist. You are saying you wanna put in alphabetical order ?
Explain where is your alphabetical order ??????????????????? (be serious, u must be kidding.);
Its really funny to see Marlboro in the top of the list with Sandrinho and Sany at the end...(what kind of alphabetical order is it ??? ).
A B C D E F G... ETC ETC ...( check the new track of JUSTICE and sing it it could help you lol ).
Dont erase the names of others djs, or dont put them in the top of the list just because you wanna PROMOTE your artist.
Label manager of WHAT? You release records? Do you produce anything? Just publishing may be ?
Ah yes thats true u do management for DJ SANY a.k.a the maesto... We ve all see it.
Other stuff, you could be right about the music, saying that Baile funk is a party not a style of music.
But here in Europe and US we call it Baile Funk and it wont changee even if u got a "label" (myspace or blog may be???) called CARIOCAFUNKCLUBE.
TCHIKY
ps: you dont have to edit this message. Not necessary .
dear Pittigliani, label manager of Funkcariocaclube who produce EXPERIMENTAL music:
Yeah yeah, where did you find out this Zulu King about Sandrinho?
Nobody uses that even him. Dont use this kind of stuff, he doesnt need it and means nothing to him.
yes thats funny ur organisation, about djs and mcs in Wikipedia. I saw it of course.
But why Sany doesnt have this "DJ" before his name????
Really strange isnt it??? of course u dont have any answers...
Dont you know in Brasil many guyz inverse the dj name like DENNIS DJ or CAVERNA DJ or what ever...
Sorry, i wont mail you and like i told you last time, i dont need and i dont want to be in contact with you...
TCHIKY
ps: like i said before you dont need to edit my post. THANKS
There are some "Bailes Funk" that let women (and underage girls too) in for free in case they are not wearing their underwears. I know this may sound absurd, but that's exactly why I believe it's worth adding to the "Criticism" section. However, I didn't find a reliable source for it. If anyone finds it, please do add to the article. Victor Lopes ( talk) 23:47, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
Added some background and derivatives. Fixed some words and wikilinks per Wikipedia:Manual of Style. -- 201.78.66.174 ( talk) 13:42, 20 October 2009 (UTC)
Californian With an M.B.A. Follows His Heart to Brazilian Funk by SIMON ROMERO published New York Times December 25, 2011 99.190.86.5 ( talk) 06:34, 28 December 2011 (UTC)
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Im can say im an expert on Funk, is almost the only thing i think on my life, im kind of addicted, i just dont know why too, my heart fills with hope when i think on the people who dream to be a singer, people who are able to save their famillies with it... theres not a single day i dont think about Funk on 4 years, i have more then 150'000minutes of Funk on spotify all types... i sing and compose too, soon ill produce it, só dont delete my fixes Teo82710 ( talk) 07:27, 12 April 2021 (UTC)
Wikipedia simply just dosent work, no one adds the newest events (after 2010), when i add i cant add references, when i add without references people delete all the text even though real life is my reference my own eyes are my best reference, wikipedia will never be able to express Funk's culture in any words, im not allowed to write about my culture to everyone understand it but everyone is allowed to add fake information and steriotyping my culture on wikipedia, this is bullshit im not trying to fix this anymore, i have mutch more real things to do, and an advise (dont take this "Funk Carioca" page seriously, i live in this culture, and i can say that most of this text are wrong, even insulting to me, the truth is that people here just want everyone to be happy, the most happy you can get) Teo82710 ( talk) 20:31, 3 May 2021 (UTC)
I cant add sources, all the experiences i added are something that everyone sees in here, theres even a motto who says "só quem é daqui sabe" means "only whos from here knows" thats why there wont be good references in the internet, and is impossible to rely this text on the internet, Funk is something that dosent get to be in the internet, in Brasil the only things that goes on the internet is what we cant see in real life, the aglomerate of bad things, Funk is a good thing, thats why the internet dosent talk about, last time the internet was talking about that was: may2021: when MCKevin DIED, by falling from the 5 floor. March2021 when every single succeded singer has been ACCUSED by the POLICE of beeing linked to the DRUG TRAFIC (resulted into nothing), feb2021 where the POLOCE INVADED SalvadorDaRima's home without "rights". Ass you can see they are all bad things, and this is only 1 proof that theres no right information about Funk in the internet, theres no right information about nothing in Brasil on the internet, the media only causes terror (cause thats what gives money), and no one here is earning money to right this text, we are just following the steps of ganacious people, reling our information on the work of people that only wants more money from the concern of the Brasilean People, terrifing them. Teo82710 ( talk) 14:57, 5 June 2021 (UTC)
Does anyone else here think Funk carioca deserves a template? It has some subgenres, and there is even a category named "Funk carioca genres." 47.36.25.163 ( talk) 20:24, 1 June 2022 (UTC)
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This post refers to the "Subgenre" section, not the entire article.
There seems to be a misunderstanding about what constitutes Brazilian funk and Brazilian phonk.
As the Wikipedia article notes, funk carioca is commonly known as Brazilian funk, especially outside Brazil.
Although it is inaccurate to categorize Brazilian funk as "Brazilian phonk," a recent trend has emerged where music producers remix phonk songs with Brazilian funk beats and lyrics, gaining popularity on TikTok. These producers often refer to it as "Brazilian phonk." I think this constitutes a sub-genre called brazilian phonk. However, it is inappropriate for the Wikipedia article to use the title "Brazilian funk" to describe a sub-genre of phonk, as it is currently.
Brazilian funk and Brazilian phonk are distinct. When phonk songs incorporate Brazilian funk elements, it becomes a subgenre known as Brazilian phonk. However, stating that "Brazilian funk is a sub-genre of phonk" is incorrect. Brazilian funk is specifically carioca funk with origins dating back several decades.
Confusion arises when phonks with Brazilian funk elements go viral and are popularized as "Brazilian phonk." Users listening to raw Brazilian funk then associate these elements with the "Brazilian phonk" subgenre, mistaking it for phonk rather than funk.
I recommend maintaining the title (in the sub-genre section) as "Brazilian phonk" to prevent further confusion in the discussion.
L Marcelosdc ( talk) 15:17, 16 January 2024 (UTC)