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It's false that friulian never acquired official/legal status: almost at this time, infact, Italy recognizes that language as MINORITY LANGUAGE (not only dialect) and gives to it a status of co-officiality in its historical area of diffusion. Friulian can be teached at school, can be used in writing (and have legal value), and can be used under judgment and in any contact with public issues.-- 87.18.231.68 ( talk) 03:23, 6 September 2008 (UTC)
Quoting from the section, The Variants of Friulian:
“07, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
I am not a linguist but I believe there is a confusion with weak pronouns. Catalan does have weak pronouns but they are not pleonastic. Weak pronouns in Catalan are simply pronouns that change their pronunciation and spelling based on their position in the sentence or if they are preceded by a vowel. Pleonastic nouns do not exist in Catalan.
The article states the ISO-639-1 code is fr, which is the code for French. ~ Dodde ( talk) 00:02, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
The result of the proposal was no consensus to move the page, per the discussion below. Dekimasu よ! 08:22, 15 April 2008 (UTC)
Friulian language → Furlan language — I think it would make sense to distinguish between Friulian as related to any ethnicity/language of Friuli (geographic area) and Furlan as related to the language spoken by Furlans (ethnic/linguistic group). See Talk:Slovenes and Talk:Slovene language for a similar discussion. — Eleassar my talk 12:15, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
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Can someone translate this Friulian text?
Badagnani ( talk) 21:06, 21 May 2009 (UTC)
I'm not a native speaker of Friulian, but I've found a site with the Italian translation (I'm Italian :-)):
Branch of fennel, the firefly and the frog
The ‘’little female one’’ rocks (swings), of dust she gets dirty.
Stick and branch of fennel, with arugula and walnut
The girl is a liar, the boy is a cheat (swindler).
For the phonetics:
[1]
Apparently, Scjaraçule maraçule are ancient words indicating a fennel branch used for pagan rithuals to invoke rain. :-)--
151.51.24.225 (
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Might I suggest in the various examples given that the Italian translation be given too
i.e. English > Friulano > Italian Hello, my name is Jack! > Mandi, jo mi clami Jacum! > Ciao, mi chaimo Jack —Preceding unsigned comment added by 140.168.79.1 ( talk) 05:36, 25 May 2010 (UTC)
The term 'Friulan' is used throughout the entry. I may be wrong, but I suspect 'Friulian' is more natural and more common in English. Perhaps the author has a reason for preferring 'Friulan'? -- Ceartas ( talk • contribs) 22:55, 25 December 2010 (UTC)
(Moving user Pgg804's contribution to its own section. 67.177.224.165 ( talk) 20:57, 9 March 2012 (UTC))
Wikipedia's "NAZI THEORIES": The article hypothesizes about "Germnanization" of Trieste. Although Trieste belonged to Austria for centuries, there is no evidence to support wikipedia editor's editorializing and theories. WW II started because after WW I the allies stole huge parts of Germany and Austria to create new countries and add territory to existing territories. The allies placed millions of Germans under foreign rule where there rights were reduced or stripped and they were made into 2nd class citizens. The allies stole Memel, Danzig, Alsace-Lorraine, Prague and many other historically German cities. That is what WW II was about. In 1933 Germany had more Nobel Prizes than Great Britain and the USA combined (look it up and count them if you doubt me). The allies intentions at the end of WW I was to weaken Germany and Austria by breaking the countries up.
But, back to Friulan language and Trieste. The only reason Germany occupied Italy was because Italy collapsed immediately when attacked. The Italian army didn't fight when Sicily was attacked and then the mainland. That was when German troops occupied Italy. Otherwise, allied troops would have been right on the Austrian border and very close to Germany without even a struggle.
Germany did not want a war with the west. They did not want another two front war. For the uninformed, it was Britain and France that declared war on Germany, not the other way around. With writers like those of wikipedia, most people would assume Germany attacked those countries. To avoid a two front war Hitler never made any demands for the return of the western areas stolen from Germany after WW I. Hitler never asked for the return of the south Tyrol, Alsace or German lands in the west. He was willing to give them up for peace in the west. And that also allowed Hitler and Mussolini to become strong allies and friends. If Hitler had demanded the south Tyrol from Italy, an alliance with Italy would have been impossible.Pgg804 (talk) 03:50, 25 January 2012 (UTC)
The first sentence of the Introduction: Friulian or Friulan (furlan or, affectionately, marilenghe in Friulian, friulano in Italian, Furlanisch in German, furlanščina in Slovene; also Friulian)
I don't understand the "also Friulian)". The first word of the article already says Friulian. Why say it again here? Omc ( talk) 12:08, 23 July 2017 (UTC)
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It's false that friulian never acquired official/legal status: almost at this time, infact, Italy recognizes that language as MINORITY LANGUAGE (not only dialect) and gives to it a status of co-officiality in its historical area of diffusion. Friulian can be teached at school, can be used in writing (and have legal value), and can be used under judgment and in any contact with public issues.-- 87.18.231.68 ( talk) 03:23, 6 September 2008 (UTC)
Quoting from the section, The Variants of Friulian:
“07, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
I am not a linguist but I believe there is a confusion with weak pronouns. Catalan does have weak pronouns but they are not pleonastic. Weak pronouns in Catalan are simply pronouns that change their pronunciation and spelling based on their position in the sentence or if they are preceded by a vowel. Pleonastic nouns do not exist in Catalan.
The article states the ISO-639-1 code is fr, which is the code for French. ~ Dodde ( talk) 00:02, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
The result of the proposal was no consensus to move the page, per the discussion below. Dekimasu よ! 08:22, 15 April 2008 (UTC)
Friulian language → Furlan language — I think it would make sense to distinguish between Friulian as related to any ethnicity/language of Friuli (geographic area) and Furlan as related to the language spoken by Furlans (ethnic/linguistic group). See Talk:Slovenes and Talk:Slovene language for a similar discussion. — Eleassar my talk 12:15, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
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Wikipedia's naming conventions.What are the values of each letter? 'Ç'? how is it used? How is it different from 'c'? Joemaza ( talk) 08:09, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
Can someone translate this Friulian text?
Badagnani ( talk) 21:06, 21 May 2009 (UTC)
I'm not a native speaker of Friulian, but I've found a site with the Italian translation (I'm Italian :-)):
Branch of fennel, the firefly and the frog
The ‘’little female one’’ rocks (swings), of dust she gets dirty.
Stick and branch of fennel, with arugula and walnut
The girl is a liar, the boy is a cheat (swindler).
For the phonetics:
[1]
Apparently, Scjaraçule maraçule are ancient words indicating a fennel branch used for pagan rithuals to invoke rain. :-)--
151.51.24.225 (
talk) 21:49, 27 September 2009 (UTC)
Might I suggest in the various examples given that the Italian translation be given too
i.e. English > Friulano > Italian Hello, my name is Jack! > Mandi, jo mi clami Jacum! > Ciao, mi chaimo Jack —Preceding unsigned comment added by 140.168.79.1 ( talk) 05:36, 25 May 2010 (UTC)
The term 'Friulan' is used throughout the entry. I may be wrong, but I suspect 'Friulian' is more natural and more common in English. Perhaps the author has a reason for preferring 'Friulan'? -- Ceartas ( talk • contribs) 22:55, 25 December 2010 (UTC)
(Moving user Pgg804's contribution to its own section. 67.177.224.165 ( talk) 20:57, 9 March 2012 (UTC))
Wikipedia's "NAZI THEORIES": The article hypothesizes about "Germnanization" of Trieste. Although Trieste belonged to Austria for centuries, there is no evidence to support wikipedia editor's editorializing and theories. WW II started because after WW I the allies stole huge parts of Germany and Austria to create new countries and add territory to existing territories. The allies placed millions of Germans under foreign rule where there rights were reduced or stripped and they were made into 2nd class citizens. The allies stole Memel, Danzig, Alsace-Lorraine, Prague and many other historically German cities. That is what WW II was about. In 1933 Germany had more Nobel Prizes than Great Britain and the USA combined (look it up and count them if you doubt me). The allies intentions at the end of WW I was to weaken Germany and Austria by breaking the countries up.
But, back to Friulan language and Trieste. The only reason Germany occupied Italy was because Italy collapsed immediately when attacked. The Italian army didn't fight when Sicily was attacked and then the mainland. That was when German troops occupied Italy. Otherwise, allied troops would have been right on the Austrian border and very close to Germany without even a struggle.
Germany did not want a war with the west. They did not want another two front war. For the uninformed, it was Britain and France that declared war on Germany, not the other way around. With writers like those of wikipedia, most people would assume Germany attacked those countries. To avoid a two front war Hitler never made any demands for the return of the western areas stolen from Germany after WW I. Hitler never asked for the return of the south Tyrol, Alsace or German lands in the west. He was willing to give them up for peace in the west. And that also allowed Hitler and Mussolini to become strong allies and friends. If Hitler had demanded the south Tyrol from Italy, an alliance with Italy would have been impossible.Pgg804 (talk) 03:50, 25 January 2012 (UTC)
The first sentence of the Introduction: Friulian or Friulan (furlan or, affectionately, marilenghe in Friulian, friulano in Italian, Furlanisch in German, furlanščina in Slovene; also Friulian)
I don't understand the "also Friulian)". The first word of the article already says Friulian. Why say it again here? Omc ( talk) 12:08, 23 July 2017 (UTC)
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the map is so close up, it's not clear. can we have a map of Italy and/or Europe instead? 82.5.35.207 ( talk) 23:48, 2 December 2022 (UTC)