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i really doubt the suggested development connection between Arduino and Fritzing. The two are completely seperate. The 'reference' also doesnt say anything abt that: it merly suggests that stuff like the arduino and Fritzing have made it easier/user-friendlier for people to step in. Fritzing is a circuit/breadboard/pcb-design program and has nothing to do with Arduino — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.159.130.241 ( talk) 14:10, 27 September 2014 (UTC)
Removing cleanup tags form article without addressing the expressed concerns is against wikipedia rules. Please address the concern as clearly explained in the template. Lorem Ip ( talk) 00:20, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
Please do not remove tags without fixing the article to address the concern. This is a disruption of wikipedia. The notability concerns are clearly explained in the template. DO you want me to copy it into the talk age as well? If you remove it again I will complain elsewhere. Lorem Ip ( talk) 01:03, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
What is your answer beyond personal attacks? Lorem Ip ( talk) 01:17, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
Hi there, I found this through WP:3O. From WP:NRVE: "Once an article's notability has been challenged, merely asserting that unspecified sources exist is seldom persuasive, especially if time passes and actual proof does not surface." The only non-blog/non-forum mention I was able to find of this software were a few passing mentions in books about the Arduino platform. I would say this does not amount to "significant coverage", unless someone can cite a textbook that has a large amount of content devoted to the subject. See also WP:NOTGUIDE; if there is not enough info to go beyond simply describing the function of the software, it probably doesn't merit its own article. Mildly Mad T C 03:07, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
Hi, i'm currently running the 0.93 and the development seems to be dead. lot of things doesnt works as expected, leading to break our design but making us think it works. (making it hard to use for now in production environnement).
Seriously, the github has more than 1K issues and we are unable to push simple fixes in it. When you take two wire in schema and try to conect them, it just render them connected, breaking the usage of making pcb. I'm used to buggy software and i'm a great opensource supporter, i dont want add a note just for complain, but I think it should be noted that sometime do something simple can be complicated or no doable. (connect two existing wire in schema simply: forget it without pixel shot them and it doesnt works every time!) Please remember the goal of the software is mainly to connect wire and place components depending these connections. Note: please try it yourself: make a more than 50wire schema, route it, all solved? yeah, gj but your schema is probably not what it appears to be so you maybe (or not) lost 3 day of works :/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tuxun ( talk • contribs) 15:49, 8 December 2018 (UTC)
Situation may shows signs of improvement with a recent official release on the git repo in Dec 2019. Also the authorship and ownership has shifted as per https://github.com/fritzing/fritzing-app
"The Fritzing app was maintained by the Friends-of-Fritzing e.V., a non-profit foundation based in Berlin, Germany. The project has grown out of a state-funded research project at the Interaction Design Lab at Potsdam University of Applied Sciences. The founding team consists of Prof. Reto Wettach, André Knörig, Jonathan Cohen, and Stefan Hermann. Many fantastic people have contributed to it over the years. Since 2019, the project is maintained by Kjell Morgenstern, with great support from Peter Van Epp, André Knörig, and AISLER."
It's only a minor update. We can see it all works out or if this is just a blip.
From https://fritzing.org/download/history-changes/, this is mainly a maintenance release as the team has updated its continuous integration and done some bug fixes.
Rob Burbidge ( talk) 17:04, 18 January 2020 (UTC)
As of mid 2021, there is some activity in github and two maintenance releases have been made in this calendar year. So it looks the project is not completely moribund. I offer no opinion as to quality or popularity. Rob Burbidge ( talk) 11:17, 30 July 2021 (UTC)
Just came across this software, but I did notice that the official site of fritzing requires you to "donate" at least 8 Euros before downloading it.
" We are asking you to pay 8€ (less than US$9) for downloading the application. This way we can ensure future releases, bugfixes and features. " [1]
In this spirit, can this software be still classified as a free software, or should it be now considered as a commercial software? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.181.228.72 ( talk) 14:32, 10 January 2021 (UTC)
At the very least, their stance is confusing. Download links for pre-built versions on their site are via a paypal gateway, but they say they are "asking" to pay for downloads so is payment mandatory or not. The source code is available via github, so an experienced developer might be able to download and build. Given that other sections of the website (projects) are marked as not being updated, it's all a bit messy today.
Rob Burbidge (
talk) 11:25, 30 July 2021 (UTC)
Also this 3rd party site both confirms that payments are needed to download, but also includes build instructions from source. https://siytek.com/build-fritzing/ I think it's hovering on the edge of being commercial, but it's a close call. Rob Burbidge ( talk) 11:28, 30 July 2021 (UTC)
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i really doubt the suggested development connection between Arduino and Fritzing. The two are completely seperate. The 'reference' also doesnt say anything abt that: it merly suggests that stuff like the arduino and Fritzing have made it easier/user-friendlier for people to step in. Fritzing is a circuit/breadboard/pcb-design program and has nothing to do with Arduino — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.159.130.241 ( talk) 14:10, 27 September 2014 (UTC)
Removing cleanup tags form article without addressing the expressed concerns is against wikipedia rules. Please address the concern as clearly explained in the template. Lorem Ip ( talk) 00:20, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
Please do not remove tags without fixing the article to address the concern. This is a disruption of wikipedia. The notability concerns are clearly explained in the template. DO you want me to copy it into the talk age as well? If you remove it again I will complain elsewhere. Lorem Ip ( talk) 01:03, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
What is your answer beyond personal attacks? Lorem Ip ( talk) 01:17, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
Hi there, I found this through WP:3O. From WP:NRVE: "Once an article's notability has been challenged, merely asserting that unspecified sources exist is seldom persuasive, especially if time passes and actual proof does not surface." The only non-blog/non-forum mention I was able to find of this software were a few passing mentions in books about the Arduino platform. I would say this does not amount to "significant coverage", unless someone can cite a textbook that has a large amount of content devoted to the subject. See also WP:NOTGUIDE; if there is not enough info to go beyond simply describing the function of the software, it probably doesn't merit its own article. Mildly Mad T C 03:07, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
Hi, i'm currently running the 0.93 and the development seems to be dead. lot of things doesnt works as expected, leading to break our design but making us think it works. (making it hard to use for now in production environnement).
Seriously, the github has more than 1K issues and we are unable to push simple fixes in it. When you take two wire in schema and try to conect them, it just render them connected, breaking the usage of making pcb. I'm used to buggy software and i'm a great opensource supporter, i dont want add a note just for complain, but I think it should be noted that sometime do something simple can be complicated or no doable. (connect two existing wire in schema simply: forget it without pixel shot them and it doesnt works every time!) Please remember the goal of the software is mainly to connect wire and place components depending these connections. Note: please try it yourself: make a more than 50wire schema, route it, all solved? yeah, gj but your schema is probably not what it appears to be so you maybe (or not) lost 3 day of works :/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tuxun ( talk • contribs) 15:49, 8 December 2018 (UTC)
Situation may shows signs of improvement with a recent official release on the git repo in Dec 2019. Also the authorship and ownership has shifted as per https://github.com/fritzing/fritzing-app
"The Fritzing app was maintained by the Friends-of-Fritzing e.V., a non-profit foundation based in Berlin, Germany. The project has grown out of a state-funded research project at the Interaction Design Lab at Potsdam University of Applied Sciences. The founding team consists of Prof. Reto Wettach, André Knörig, Jonathan Cohen, and Stefan Hermann. Many fantastic people have contributed to it over the years. Since 2019, the project is maintained by Kjell Morgenstern, with great support from Peter Van Epp, André Knörig, and AISLER."
It's only a minor update. We can see it all works out or if this is just a blip.
From https://fritzing.org/download/history-changes/, this is mainly a maintenance release as the team has updated its continuous integration and done some bug fixes.
Rob Burbidge ( talk) 17:04, 18 January 2020 (UTC)
As of mid 2021, there is some activity in github and two maintenance releases have been made in this calendar year. So it looks the project is not completely moribund. I offer no opinion as to quality or popularity. Rob Burbidge ( talk) 11:17, 30 July 2021 (UTC)
Just came across this software, but I did notice that the official site of fritzing requires you to "donate" at least 8 Euros before downloading it.
" We are asking you to pay 8€ (less than US$9) for downloading the application. This way we can ensure future releases, bugfixes and features. " [1]
In this spirit, can this software be still classified as a free software, or should it be now considered as a commercial software? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.181.228.72 ( talk) 14:32, 10 January 2021 (UTC)
At the very least, their stance is confusing. Download links for pre-built versions on their site are via a paypal gateway, but they say they are "asking" to pay for downloads so is payment mandatory or not. The source code is available via github, so an experienced developer might be able to download and build. Given that other sections of the website (projects) are marked as not being updated, it's all a bit messy today.
Rob Burbidge (
talk) 11:25, 30 July 2021 (UTC)
Also this 3rd party site both confirms that payments are needed to download, but also includes build instructions from source. https://siytek.com/build-fritzing/ I think it's hovering on the edge of being commercial, but it's a close call. Rob Burbidge ( talk) 11:28, 30 July 2021 (UTC)
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