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I changed the translation of Die Entstehung des Historismus from "The Origin of Historicism" to "Historism: The Rise of a New Historical Outlook," which is the title of the English translation (trans. J. E. Anderson, New York: Herder and Herder, 1972). Since the English title is not a direct translation of the German title, I thought it would be more helpful for English readers looking for the book to render it that way. However, if a more literal rendering of the German title is preferred, please note that the translation should be "The Origin of Historism" rather than "The Origin of Historicism" (i.e., the "ci" should be left out). This might seem like an insignificant difference, but the two words refer to rather different ideas, which are often confused with each other—I see no reason to perpetuate this problem. (For more on this, see the wikipedia article on Historism.) 128.143.1.150 ( talk) 05:54, 3 August 2012 (UTC)
Currently the article fails to mention that Meinecke was an active proponent of the idea of ethnically cleansing Central Europe from non-Germans to make room for German colonists. -- MyMoloboaccount ( talk) 19:37, 26 December 2012 (UTC) I restored information with quotes that was deleted by anon IP.-- MyMoloboaccount ( talk) 14:24, 30 March 2013 (UTC)
Whether it goes in the lede or not, the current phrasing "so as to restore the 'German character' of the areas" basically sneaks in Wikipedia voice into Meinecke's words. It implies that there actually was a "German character" to Poznan and Wielkopolska area. Yes, I know there's the " ' " around "German character" but it still gives an incorrect impression.
The stuff on his anti-semitism, pre and post war, should also be included in the article. Volunteer Marek 14:14, 2 April 2013 (UTC)
-- MyMoloboaccount ( talk) 15:21, 21 April 2013 (UTC)
I've removed the mention 'who supported Nazi invasion of Poland' from the lede. The world does not revolve around Poland. Whilst it has a place in the article body, it is just a minor aspect of Meinecke's whole Gesamtschaffen. Otherwise we would need to add 'he (she) supported the Soviet annexation of Eastern Poland' to the respective articles of all Soviet historians who ever wrote anything on the Soviet 1939 Polish campaign - which, I think you all agree, would be ridiculous. Regards, Miacek and his crime-fighting dog (woof!) 13:43, 2 November 2013 (UTC)
Can someone process this article regarding Bias?
It is interesting to compare the content with the German Wikipedia. Meinecke is known as a liberal-conservative historian, he is not known to be a main protagonist of Nazi ideology as implicitly suggested in the header of the English article.
Thanks! -- Ischtiraki ( talk) 13:07, 26 August 2019 (UTC)
Yes please. This article is slightly bizarre. Meinecke was a major German / European historian. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2003:FB:E716:6148:15AA:421:E62E:5C1D ( talk) 23:06, 12 November 2023 (UTC)
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This article was automatically assessed because at least one WikiProject had rated the article as stub, and the rating on other projects was brought up to Stub class. BetacommandBot 04:02, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
I changed the translation of Die Entstehung des Historismus from "The Origin of Historicism" to "Historism: The Rise of a New Historical Outlook," which is the title of the English translation (trans. J. E. Anderson, New York: Herder and Herder, 1972). Since the English title is not a direct translation of the German title, I thought it would be more helpful for English readers looking for the book to render it that way. However, if a more literal rendering of the German title is preferred, please note that the translation should be "The Origin of Historism" rather than "The Origin of Historicism" (i.e., the "ci" should be left out). This might seem like an insignificant difference, but the two words refer to rather different ideas, which are often confused with each other—I see no reason to perpetuate this problem. (For more on this, see the wikipedia article on Historism.) 128.143.1.150 ( talk) 05:54, 3 August 2012 (UTC)
Currently the article fails to mention that Meinecke was an active proponent of the idea of ethnically cleansing Central Europe from non-Germans to make room for German colonists. -- MyMoloboaccount ( talk) 19:37, 26 December 2012 (UTC) I restored information with quotes that was deleted by anon IP.-- MyMoloboaccount ( talk) 14:24, 30 March 2013 (UTC)
Whether it goes in the lede or not, the current phrasing "so as to restore the 'German character' of the areas" basically sneaks in Wikipedia voice into Meinecke's words. It implies that there actually was a "German character" to Poznan and Wielkopolska area. Yes, I know there's the " ' " around "German character" but it still gives an incorrect impression.
The stuff on his anti-semitism, pre and post war, should also be included in the article. Volunteer Marek 14:14, 2 April 2013 (UTC)
-- MyMoloboaccount ( talk) 15:21, 21 April 2013 (UTC)
I've removed the mention 'who supported Nazi invasion of Poland' from the lede. The world does not revolve around Poland. Whilst it has a place in the article body, it is just a minor aspect of Meinecke's whole Gesamtschaffen. Otherwise we would need to add 'he (she) supported the Soviet annexation of Eastern Poland' to the respective articles of all Soviet historians who ever wrote anything on the Soviet 1939 Polish campaign - which, I think you all agree, would be ridiculous. Regards, Miacek and his crime-fighting dog (woof!) 13:43, 2 November 2013 (UTC)
Can someone process this article regarding Bias?
It is interesting to compare the content with the German Wikipedia. Meinecke is known as a liberal-conservative historian, he is not known to be a main protagonist of Nazi ideology as implicitly suggested in the header of the English article.
Thanks! -- Ischtiraki ( talk) 13:07, 26 August 2019 (UTC)
Yes please. This article is slightly bizarre. Meinecke was a major German / European historian. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2003:FB:E716:6148:15AA:421:E62E:5C1D ( talk) 23:06, 12 November 2023 (UTC)