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But it should be noted that some words in -le are not frequentatives: as an example, scribble is from Latin scribillare which is a diminutive (of scribare), not a frequentative. -- FOo ( talk) 20:09, 17 August 2008 (UTC)
i hafta say, this article is funny without even trying. good work. "to shake, such that a single, sudden shaking is repeated" bwaHAHAHA :D Heyzeuss ( talk) 10:31, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
Frequentative is apparently a lexical aspect (describing verbs derived from other verbs, with a different nuance of meaning), but the example of Lithuanian doesn't seem to be that, but rather a class of verb forms. Is this correct? And why was it placed in this article? — Eru· tuon 23:26, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
How about Afrikaans? For example "Hy klop klop" is being said for "He knocked again and again" or "He knocked many times". Allegedly this grammatical structure originates from Malaisian immigrants (See also Indonesian: rang = man, rang rang = men/people). — Preceding unsigned comment added by Drylexx ( talk • contribs) 22:26, 8 March 2019 (UTC)
In Lithuanian language exist not only 'dirb-dav-ome' (we used to work, and means not only repeated action (many times!) in the past, but and prolonged action which was or was not repeated many times...and to emphasise this (that we and repeated this long action many times) we repeat twice this form using 'and' - 'dirbdavome ir dirbdavome' meaning 'we used to work long works (prolongative), with short breaks (frequentative) and work many times (iterative)'), but and 'dirb-ine-dav-ome' which is the derivation from 'dirb-ine-jome' (like in Finish - to work around; or to work smth but not a real work; or to work anything to spend your time; or to work smth insignificant; or to work very often, short works, and with short breaks). 90.219.127.98 ( talk) 04:17, 4 December 2010 (UTC)
The article says,
Thanks to Wikipedia, I understand geminate to refer to the prolongation of consonants, as in, e.g., Italian vello [vɛl.lo], fleece, vs. velo [ve.lo], veil. I don't see how that has anything to do with English frequentatives in -er.
As far as I can detect, the corresponding consonants in toddle and totter (both freq. of tot), in dialects that pronounce terminal /r/, have pretty much the same length. Same for jiggle and jigger (both freq. of jig). The distinction in consonant-voicing between toddle and totter (now lost in most American English dialects) could conceivably relate to the l/r distinction and perhaps a vanished gemination coupled with the unvoiced consonant in totter; but since we don't see jiggle and *jikker, and in the absence of further evidence, I doubt it.
Isn't it far more likely that we have frequentatives in both [l̩] and [ər] simply because of the fluidity with which those sounds tend to replace each other? That's what gave us purple from O.E. purpure, marble from French marbre, [ker.nl̩] from colonel, and so forth. It's still a productive tendency in some American dialects, though, as usual, I can't think of an example when I want one.
Incidentally, what's that phenomenon called? I've spent over an hour trying to find it on Wikipedia without success.
Jdcrutch ( talk) 21:13, 30 November 2011 (UTC)
Most of the examples appear to be the supine stem (which typically ends with t or s) + āre, rather than +tāre; I'd expect –t+tāre to result in –sāre (or does that only happen to d+t and not t+t?). — Tamfang ( talk) 19:20, 9 September 2015 (UTC)
Hi, adding a chinese section would improve the article. Thanks in advance. Backinstadiums ( talk) 19:54, 23 January 2017 (UTC)
Megaman en m — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ahrada2021 ( talk • contribs) 20:26, 30 July 2022 (UTC)
Oromo language has two types of frequentative words.
It indicates repetition of an action. what is repeated also insues on a performance.
There are generally two types of Frequentative in Oromo language.
They are from Adjectives and from Verbs.
For example:
The verb
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But it should be noted that some words in -le are not frequentatives: as an example, scribble is from Latin scribillare which is a diminutive (of scribare), not a frequentative. -- FOo ( talk) 20:09, 17 August 2008 (UTC)
i hafta say, this article is funny without even trying. good work. "to shake, such that a single, sudden shaking is repeated" bwaHAHAHA :D Heyzeuss ( talk) 10:31, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
Frequentative is apparently a lexical aspect (describing verbs derived from other verbs, with a different nuance of meaning), but the example of Lithuanian doesn't seem to be that, but rather a class of verb forms. Is this correct? And why was it placed in this article? — Eru· tuon 23:26, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
How about Afrikaans? For example "Hy klop klop" is being said for "He knocked again and again" or "He knocked many times". Allegedly this grammatical structure originates from Malaisian immigrants (See also Indonesian: rang = man, rang rang = men/people). — Preceding unsigned comment added by Drylexx ( talk • contribs) 22:26, 8 March 2019 (UTC)
In Lithuanian language exist not only 'dirb-dav-ome' (we used to work, and means not only repeated action (many times!) in the past, but and prolonged action which was or was not repeated many times...and to emphasise this (that we and repeated this long action many times) we repeat twice this form using 'and' - 'dirbdavome ir dirbdavome' meaning 'we used to work long works (prolongative), with short breaks (frequentative) and work many times (iterative)'), but and 'dirb-ine-dav-ome' which is the derivation from 'dirb-ine-jome' (like in Finish - to work around; or to work smth but not a real work; or to work anything to spend your time; or to work smth insignificant; or to work very often, short works, and with short breaks). 90.219.127.98 ( talk) 04:17, 4 December 2010 (UTC)
The article says,
Thanks to Wikipedia, I understand geminate to refer to the prolongation of consonants, as in, e.g., Italian vello [vɛl.lo], fleece, vs. velo [ve.lo], veil. I don't see how that has anything to do with English frequentatives in -er.
As far as I can detect, the corresponding consonants in toddle and totter (both freq. of tot), in dialects that pronounce terminal /r/, have pretty much the same length. Same for jiggle and jigger (both freq. of jig). The distinction in consonant-voicing between toddle and totter (now lost in most American English dialects) could conceivably relate to the l/r distinction and perhaps a vanished gemination coupled with the unvoiced consonant in totter; but since we don't see jiggle and *jikker, and in the absence of further evidence, I doubt it.
Isn't it far more likely that we have frequentatives in both [l̩] and [ər] simply because of the fluidity with which those sounds tend to replace each other? That's what gave us purple from O.E. purpure, marble from French marbre, [ker.nl̩] from colonel, and so forth. It's still a productive tendency in some American dialects, though, as usual, I can't think of an example when I want one.
Incidentally, what's that phenomenon called? I've spent over an hour trying to find it on Wikipedia without success.
Jdcrutch ( talk) 21:13, 30 November 2011 (UTC)
Most of the examples appear to be the supine stem (which typically ends with t or s) + āre, rather than +tāre; I'd expect –t+tāre to result in –sāre (or does that only happen to d+t and not t+t?). — Tamfang ( talk) 19:20, 9 September 2015 (UTC)
Hi, adding a chinese section would improve the article. Thanks in advance. Backinstadiums ( talk) 19:54, 23 January 2017 (UTC)
Megaman en m — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ahrada2021 ( talk • contribs) 20:26, 30 July 2022 (UTC)
Oromo language has two types of frequentative words.
It indicates repetition of an action. what is repeated also insues on a performance.
There are generally two types of Frequentative in Oromo language.
They are from Adjectives and from Verbs.
For example:
The verb