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Does that cause something to be knocked a day off? The French Revolurionary calendar started in 1792, and Gregorian wasn't officially restored until 1806. Carlm0404 ( talk) 07:24, 17 December 2021 (UTC)
Is it worth mentioning, under "cultural references", that most of the Elvish month names given by Tolkien in Appendix B are translations of the Republican names? But perhaps it's coincidental. — Tamfang ( talk) 18:18, 14 January 2023 (UTC)
Doug Weller talk 19:26, 12 February 2023 (UTC)
The Catholic Church used a calendar of saints, which named each day of the year after an associated saint. To reduce the influence of the Church, Fabre d'Églantine introduced a Rural Calendar in which each day of the year had a unique name associated with the rural economy, stated to correspond to the time of year
I'm not sure how this could be any clearer. If you still see a problem with this being described as 'partly for religous reasons' please expand on your argument, please spell it out because I really do not see what possible objection you can have here!! Scarabocchio ( talk) 15:33, 14 February 2023 (UTC)The priests assigned the commemoration of a so-called saint to each day of the year: this catalogue exhibited neither utility nor method; it was a collection of lies, of deceit or of charlatanism.
We thought that the nation, after having kicked out this canonised mob from its calendar, must replace it with the objects that make up the true riches of the nation.
...
So we have arranged in the column of each month, the names of the real treasures of the rural economy.
Does nobody know about Google? http://prairial.free.fr/index.php?lien=cal_presenatusconsulte1805 https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/bpt6k6438979z.texteImage https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/bpt6k487479.image — Nike ( talk) 09:50, 15 February 2023 (UTC) (Décade III Sextidi 26 Pluviôse an CCXXXI à 4h 16m t.m.P.)
Just read the sources I provided.
« Il fut imaginé dans la vue de donner aux Français un calendrier purement civil, et qui, n'étant subordonné aux pratiques d'aucun culte, convînt également à tous. »
« Cette distribution qui, ne concordant avec les cultes d’aucune secte, déroute les gens superstitieux, écarte les préjugés, est la plus convenable à une nation qui veut tolérer toutes les religions, sans permettre pour aucune des pratiques extérieures. »
« Cette opération faite, les moyens de la consolider seront de tenir strictement la main à ce que la superstition rusée n’abuse point, par leur application trop étendue, des principes consacrés par la dernière loi sur la liberté des cultes, et pour cela il faut avoir grand soin d’établir des fêtes décadaires, et de faire concorder les jours de foires et de marchés avec le nouveau calendrier. »
«La loi sur la liberté des cultes n’en tolère l’exercice que dans des lieux particuliers 3. Si on laissait la faculté de louer les anciens temples pour les employer à cet usage 4, le culte reprendrait inévitablement un caractère de publicité qu’il ne faut pas permettre, et cette attention est trop importante, pour fermer les yeux sur les suites dangereuse de l’apathie ou de l’excessive tolérance. »
— Nike ( talk) 14:56, 15 February 2023 (UTC) (Décade III Sextidi 26 Pluviôse an CCXXXI à 6h 28m décimales t.m.P.)
"Among these almanacs the most significant was Sylvain Marechal's Almanach des Honnetes Gens, published in I788.4 It contained the real germ of the Republican Calendar. Here appeared the year of twelve equal months with five or six complementary days (scattered through the year, however, instead of all coming together at the end), and each month divided into three decades. But the most startling innovation, at least to contemporaries, was the substitution of " hon- netes gens" for the saints of the Gregorian Calendar. The work was roundly denounced by the government, which ordered it " torn up and burned . . . as impious, sacrilegious, blasphemous, and tending to destroy religion". Such drastic action may have been some- what responsible for later almanacs being less radical, but it did not stop their publication. Since their propagandic value was soon rceognized by the Revolutionary leaders, the number increased.
In I79I the Jacobin Club offered a prize of twenty-five louis for the best patriotic almanac. Forty-two works were submitted to the judges and the prize was won by Collot d'Herbois with his Almanach du Pe're Gerard.6 The award to Collot, however, revealed the note- worthy fact that even among the Jacobins of I79I, anti-religious sentiment was not yet predominant, for his almanac retained the saints' days of the old calendar."
@ Scarabocchio: let's discuss, not just revert. Doug Weller talk 15:53, 14 February 2023 (UTC)
Is there guidance that explains why this article uses the past tense? Since this calendar can still be calculated and expressed, so never really ceases to be, doesn't MOS: Present mean this article (and related ones) should reflect that? I know there are carve-outs from MOS: Present for certain subjects, so I'm wondering if there is one for calendars that I missed. 128.151.71.7 ( talk) 13:11, 21 February 2023 (UTC)
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Does that cause something to be knocked a day off? The French Revolurionary calendar started in 1792, and Gregorian wasn't officially restored until 1806. Carlm0404 ( talk) 07:24, 17 December 2021 (UTC)
Is it worth mentioning, under "cultural references", that most of the Elvish month names given by Tolkien in Appendix B are translations of the Republican names? But perhaps it's coincidental. — Tamfang ( talk) 18:18, 14 January 2023 (UTC)
Doug Weller talk 19:26, 12 February 2023 (UTC)
The Catholic Church used a calendar of saints, which named each day of the year after an associated saint. To reduce the influence of the Church, Fabre d'Églantine introduced a Rural Calendar in which each day of the year had a unique name associated with the rural economy, stated to correspond to the time of year
I'm not sure how this could be any clearer. If you still see a problem with this being described as 'partly for religous reasons' please expand on your argument, please spell it out because I really do not see what possible objection you can have here!! Scarabocchio ( talk) 15:33, 14 February 2023 (UTC)The priests assigned the commemoration of a so-called saint to each day of the year: this catalogue exhibited neither utility nor method; it was a collection of lies, of deceit or of charlatanism.
We thought that the nation, after having kicked out this canonised mob from its calendar, must replace it with the objects that make up the true riches of the nation.
...
So we have arranged in the column of each month, the names of the real treasures of the rural economy.
Does nobody know about Google? http://prairial.free.fr/index.php?lien=cal_presenatusconsulte1805 https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/bpt6k6438979z.texteImage https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/bpt6k487479.image — Nike ( talk) 09:50, 15 February 2023 (UTC) (Décade III Sextidi 26 Pluviôse an CCXXXI à 4h 16m t.m.P.)
Just read the sources I provided.
« Il fut imaginé dans la vue de donner aux Français un calendrier purement civil, et qui, n'étant subordonné aux pratiques d'aucun culte, convînt également à tous. »
« Cette distribution qui, ne concordant avec les cultes d’aucune secte, déroute les gens superstitieux, écarte les préjugés, est la plus convenable à une nation qui veut tolérer toutes les religions, sans permettre pour aucune des pratiques extérieures. »
« Cette opération faite, les moyens de la consolider seront de tenir strictement la main à ce que la superstition rusée n’abuse point, par leur application trop étendue, des principes consacrés par la dernière loi sur la liberté des cultes, et pour cela il faut avoir grand soin d’établir des fêtes décadaires, et de faire concorder les jours de foires et de marchés avec le nouveau calendrier. »
«La loi sur la liberté des cultes n’en tolère l’exercice que dans des lieux particuliers 3. Si on laissait la faculté de louer les anciens temples pour les employer à cet usage 4, le culte reprendrait inévitablement un caractère de publicité qu’il ne faut pas permettre, et cette attention est trop importante, pour fermer les yeux sur les suites dangereuse de l’apathie ou de l’excessive tolérance. »
— Nike ( talk) 14:56, 15 February 2023 (UTC) (Décade III Sextidi 26 Pluviôse an CCXXXI à 6h 28m décimales t.m.P.)
"Among these almanacs the most significant was Sylvain Marechal's Almanach des Honnetes Gens, published in I788.4 It contained the real germ of the Republican Calendar. Here appeared the year of twelve equal months with five or six complementary days (scattered through the year, however, instead of all coming together at the end), and each month divided into three decades. But the most startling innovation, at least to contemporaries, was the substitution of " hon- netes gens" for the saints of the Gregorian Calendar. The work was roundly denounced by the government, which ordered it " torn up and burned . . . as impious, sacrilegious, blasphemous, and tending to destroy religion". Such drastic action may have been some- what responsible for later almanacs being less radical, but it did not stop their publication. Since their propagandic value was soon rceognized by the Revolutionary leaders, the number increased.
In I79I the Jacobin Club offered a prize of twenty-five louis for the best patriotic almanac. Forty-two works were submitted to the judges and the prize was won by Collot d'Herbois with his Almanach du Pe're Gerard.6 The award to Collot, however, revealed the note- worthy fact that even among the Jacobins of I79I, anti-religious sentiment was not yet predominant, for his almanac retained the saints' days of the old calendar."
@ Scarabocchio: let's discuss, not just revert. Doug Weller talk 15:53, 14 February 2023 (UTC)
Is there guidance that explains why this article uses the past tense? Since this calendar can still be calculated and expressed, so never really ceases to be, doesn't MOS: Present mean this article (and related ones) should reflect that? I know there are carve-outs from MOS: Present for certain subjects, so I'm wondering if there is one for calendars that I missed. 128.151.71.7 ( talk) 13:11, 21 February 2023 (UTC)