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A citation about ghosts and its high ranking ghostly status from "haunted.com.au", needs a reality check —Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.89.189.114 ( talk) 02:27, 27 October 2009 (UTC)
The information on the Wiki page is unverified - citing only a bootleg ghost hunter's website as a source.
The centre has a social history of ghosts, that is, there are rumours circulating about ghosts of convicts from the building's historical uses, but there is no factual information available about ghosts on the site.
I don't think it should be featured on the page.
FremantleArtsCentre ( talk) 04:50, 12 January 2011 (UTC)
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done
Fix whichever sentence troubles you, I don't see it.
ditto
see above, they appear to be a new editor and their contribution was to remove fact with a citation. cygnis insignis 10:11, 12 January 2011 (UTC)
(Just thought I'd note this down here, for future reference; I've been looking for photos of the site in the '40s.) According to her oral history in Wharf Rats and Other Stories (ed. Karen Lang & Jan Newman), Elizabeth Grose's brother William Farmer was the foreman at 'Receiving Barracks, Navy 137' (as the US Navy then called it). — Sam Wilson ( Talk • Contribs ) … 08:35, 23 January 2011 (UTC)
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I don't think the building or the origanisation have ever been known as 'Museum and Arts Centre, Fremantle'. It was the museum, and now it's the arts centre; unifiying these names seems unusual. @ Skyerise: Where did you find this new title? Sam Wilson 04:27, 31 August 2023 (UTC)
incorrect
the same official page indicates very clearly the issue:
Location Details The place is currently known as Fremantle Arts Centre.
also a close check of the usual Australian central point of information,
Trove has a much larger selection of usage of the name
compared to the usage offered on the Heritage Council inherit list which is found at https://trove.nla.gov.au/?keyword=museum%20and%20arts%20centre%20fremantle
The problem is to argue that an official name of official listing is the necessary connection for a title, is a serious misunderstanding of how Western Australian heritage locations are listed in some torturous ways against common usages.
If there is any need for further explanation of the trap of bizarre pseudo official names, they can be provided. JarrahTree 11:58, 31 August 2023 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: Move. Overwhelming support for move back to Fremantle Arts Centre, concensus should now prevent move warring. ( non-admin closure) A y d o h 8 ( t a l k ) 04:20, 11 September 2023 (UTC)
Museum and Arts Centre, Fremantle → Fremantle Arts Centre – The article was moved to 'Musuem and Arts Centre, Fremantle', without any prior discussion or debate, when that change was reverted, as it was identified as a controversial move, the original mover changed it back, contrary to the provisions of WP:BOLDMOVE. As a result I am now initiating a WP:RMCM process. The reason for reverting the article title back to its original title is as per WP:COMMONNAME this is the name that the building is known by. The owners of the building, Fremantle City Council, have called this building and complex, the Fremantle Arts Centre for the last two decades. [1] All the signage on the building and directional signage to the building states 'Fremantle Arts Centre'. A google search indicates that it is the name that the building is most commonly known by. Also there has not been a museum in the building for the last two decades, since the Maritime Museum moved to the Fremantle West End. Dan arndt ( talk) 04:45, 1 September 2023 (UTC)
Comment: There is an article about the business at the redirect target. Fremantle Arts Centre. Skyerise ( talk) 11:50, 1 September 2023 (UTC)
a building or building complex which houses a number of related specified services: a shopping centre; a sports centre; a medical centre, and none of the others apply (as I interpret them) to the organisation in question here. I very much agree with splitting the article though, and am grateful that Skyerise took the time to do the research and contributed material while all the other Wikipedians here took the time and cared enough, and continue to do so, to integrate it. Still, large changes can be, and have been made without such kerfuffle, for example by taking it slowly and/or explaining the intent beforehand thus inviting collaboration, and listening to and working with those that have curated these pages for many years in some cases. Betterkeks ( talk) 06:16, 2 September 2023 (UTC)
Does anyone have any objection to my making Fremantle Arts Centre a disambiguation page pending the conclusion of the move request? Skyerise ( talk) 16:54, 1 September 2023 (UTC)
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A citation about ghosts and its high ranking ghostly status from "haunted.com.au", needs a reality check —Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.89.189.114 ( talk) 02:27, 27 October 2009 (UTC)
The information on the Wiki page is unverified - citing only a bootleg ghost hunter's website as a source.
The centre has a social history of ghosts, that is, there are rumours circulating about ghosts of convicts from the building's historical uses, but there is no factual information available about ghosts on the site.
I don't think it should be featured on the page.
FremantleArtsCentre ( talk) 04:50, 12 January 2011 (UTC)
++
done
Fix whichever sentence troubles you, I don't see it.
ditto
see above, they appear to be a new editor and their contribution was to remove fact with a citation. cygnis insignis 10:11, 12 January 2011 (UTC)
(Just thought I'd note this down here, for future reference; I've been looking for photos of the site in the '40s.) According to her oral history in Wharf Rats and Other Stories (ed. Karen Lang & Jan Newman), Elizabeth Grose's brother William Farmer was the foreman at 'Receiving Barracks, Navy 137' (as the US Navy then called it). — Sam Wilson ( Talk • Contribs ) … 08:35, 23 January 2011 (UTC)
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Cheers.— cyberbot II Talk to my owner:Online 23:52, 15 January 2016 (UTC)
I don't think the building or the origanisation have ever been known as 'Museum and Arts Centre, Fremantle'. It was the museum, and now it's the arts centre; unifiying these names seems unusual. @ Skyerise: Where did you find this new title? Sam Wilson 04:27, 31 August 2023 (UTC)
incorrect
the same official page indicates very clearly the issue:
Location Details The place is currently known as Fremantle Arts Centre.
also a close check of the usual Australian central point of information,
Trove has a much larger selection of usage of the name
compared to the usage offered on the Heritage Council inherit list which is found at https://trove.nla.gov.au/?keyword=museum%20and%20arts%20centre%20fremantle
The problem is to argue that an official name of official listing is the necessary connection for a title, is a serious misunderstanding of how Western Australian heritage locations are listed in some torturous ways against common usages.
If there is any need for further explanation of the trap of bizarre pseudo official names, they can be provided. JarrahTree 11:58, 31 August 2023 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: Move. Overwhelming support for move back to Fremantle Arts Centre, concensus should now prevent move warring. ( non-admin closure) A y d o h 8 ( t a l k ) 04:20, 11 September 2023 (UTC)
Museum and Arts Centre, Fremantle → Fremantle Arts Centre – The article was moved to 'Musuem and Arts Centre, Fremantle', without any prior discussion or debate, when that change was reverted, as it was identified as a controversial move, the original mover changed it back, contrary to the provisions of WP:BOLDMOVE. As a result I am now initiating a WP:RMCM process. The reason for reverting the article title back to its original title is as per WP:COMMONNAME this is the name that the building is known by. The owners of the building, Fremantle City Council, have called this building and complex, the Fremantle Arts Centre for the last two decades. [1] All the signage on the building and directional signage to the building states 'Fremantle Arts Centre'. A google search indicates that it is the name that the building is most commonly known by. Also there has not been a museum in the building for the last two decades, since the Maritime Museum moved to the Fremantle West End. Dan arndt ( talk) 04:45, 1 September 2023 (UTC)
Comment: There is an article about the business at the redirect target. Fremantle Arts Centre. Skyerise ( talk) 11:50, 1 September 2023 (UTC)
a building or building complex which houses a number of related specified services: a shopping centre; a sports centre; a medical centre, and none of the others apply (as I interpret them) to the organisation in question here. I very much agree with splitting the article though, and am grateful that Skyerise took the time to do the research and contributed material while all the other Wikipedians here took the time and cared enough, and continue to do so, to integrate it. Still, large changes can be, and have been made without such kerfuffle, for example by taking it slowly and/or explaining the intent beforehand thus inviting collaboration, and listening to and working with those that have curated these pages for many years in some cases. Betterkeks ( talk) 06:16, 2 September 2023 (UTC)
Does anyone have any objection to my making Fremantle Arts Centre a disambiguation page pending the conclusion of the move request? Skyerise ( talk) 16:54, 1 September 2023 (UTC)