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This article is about Freezing rain not Ice storms. Terefore it is about a type of precipitations. The same way RAIN and SNOW have their own article, freezing rain HAS to REMAIN on its own. Pierre_cb 2005-04-28 19:30 UTC.
A one-line entry. If METAR codes are notable, they should be in the entry for the weather conditions they describe -- it would be literally a one-sentence addition! -- Michael Bauser 20:35, 18 June 2006 (UTC)
"begins as a weiner shnitzel snow or rain" weiner shnitzel?? WTF? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 129.53.219.20 ( talk) 18:19, 14 February 2007 (UTC).
More information about external links: WP:EL. Four is hardly too many. Quality matters. Rklawton 14:22, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
I noticed the freezing rain page has much more information than the very similar ice storm page. I've taken some of the information here and put it in pertinent sections, but that page could use some help if interested. Tevonic ( talk) 09:11, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
In my opinion there's a difference between freezing rain and supercooled rain. Freezing rain should mean that air temperature is above the freezing point (thus raindrops are not supercooled) but the surfaces are below it (when rain hits them they get frozen), while supercooled rain means that air temperature is also below the freezing point. Anyway there's a problem with METAR codes that do not distinguish between the types: FZRA is used for supercooled rain.-- Carnby ( talk) 23:34, 23 August 2009 (UTC)
Thing is that freezing rain has actually frozen before it hits the ground, not after. Traisjames ( talk) —Preceding undated comment added 14:18, 16 September 2009 (UTC).
I see no reason for there to be separate articles on glaze ice and freezing rain. They should all be covered in one article, ideally this one. Discuss. Famartin ( talk) 09:55, 9 December 2011 (UTC)
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I was the FAA senior icing specialist and the FAA representative on the NTSB investigation on American Eagle Flight 4184. I did the ice testing at Edwards AFB on the ATR-72 (twice) and three other airplanes. As I write this I am lecturing on the use of computational fluid dynamics in FAA certification including discussion on this very topic. It was not freezing rain that caused the sharp edged ridge of ice to form aft of the aileron that resulted in self deflection in the accident sequence, it was freezing drizzle. The FAA has not yet issued its final rule defining the requirements for aircraft on this issue and is expected to do so in March 2014, nearly 20 years after the accident. I have authored several papers on this and related subjects.
The discussion on the ATR-72 accident should be in the discussion of freezing drizzle or more correctly supercooled drizzle drops. 24.178.213.203 ( talk) 16:34, 5 December 2013 (UTC)John P. Dow, Sr.
The article said freezing rain is rain that falls when surface temperature are below 0°C. Isn't the real definition of freezing rain rain that freezes imediately after it hits any surface at all. Isn't it possible for ground temperatures to be above 0°C when freezing rain builds up on aircraft. In addition to that, the article states that freezing rain is supercooled but I think not all freezing is supercooled. Can't it happen that the air temperature and surface temperatures are both below 0°C then the air warms up to above 0°C without thick tree branches having enough time to warm up to avove 0°C then rain avove 0°C hits those tree branches then freezes from those tree branches being below 0°C, with rain that was above 0°C forming glaze ice. I think that type of freezing rain is even more common at night when the sun isn't there to speed up the warming of the surfaces of tree branches. Blackbombchu ( talk) 21:14, 11 January 2014 (UTC)
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They are two different things hail happens in summer while freezing rain is winter timing. DUHHHH 24.187.123.234 ( talk) 21:10, 21 March 2018 (UTC)
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This article is about Freezing rain not Ice storms. Terefore it is about a type of precipitations. The same way RAIN and SNOW have their own article, freezing rain HAS to REMAIN on its own. Pierre_cb 2005-04-28 19:30 UTC.
A one-line entry. If METAR codes are notable, they should be in the entry for the weather conditions they describe -- it would be literally a one-sentence addition! -- Michael Bauser 20:35, 18 June 2006 (UTC)
"begins as a weiner shnitzel snow or rain" weiner shnitzel?? WTF? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 129.53.219.20 ( talk) 18:19, 14 February 2007 (UTC).
More information about external links: WP:EL. Four is hardly too many. Quality matters. Rklawton 14:22, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
I noticed the freezing rain page has much more information than the very similar ice storm page. I've taken some of the information here and put it in pertinent sections, but that page could use some help if interested. Tevonic ( talk) 09:11, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
In my opinion there's a difference between freezing rain and supercooled rain. Freezing rain should mean that air temperature is above the freezing point (thus raindrops are not supercooled) but the surfaces are below it (when rain hits them they get frozen), while supercooled rain means that air temperature is also below the freezing point. Anyway there's a problem with METAR codes that do not distinguish between the types: FZRA is used for supercooled rain.-- Carnby ( talk) 23:34, 23 August 2009 (UTC)
Thing is that freezing rain has actually frozen before it hits the ground, not after. Traisjames ( talk) —Preceding undated comment added 14:18, 16 September 2009 (UTC).
I see no reason for there to be separate articles on glaze ice and freezing rain. They should all be covered in one article, ideally this one. Discuss. Famartin ( talk) 09:55, 9 December 2011 (UTC)
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I was the FAA senior icing specialist and the FAA representative on the NTSB investigation on American Eagle Flight 4184. I did the ice testing at Edwards AFB on the ATR-72 (twice) and three other airplanes. As I write this I am lecturing on the use of computational fluid dynamics in FAA certification including discussion on this very topic. It was not freezing rain that caused the sharp edged ridge of ice to form aft of the aileron that resulted in self deflection in the accident sequence, it was freezing drizzle. The FAA has not yet issued its final rule defining the requirements for aircraft on this issue and is expected to do so in March 2014, nearly 20 years after the accident. I have authored several papers on this and related subjects.
The discussion on the ATR-72 accident should be in the discussion of freezing drizzle or more correctly supercooled drizzle drops. 24.178.213.203 ( talk) 16:34, 5 December 2013 (UTC)John P. Dow, Sr.
The article said freezing rain is rain that falls when surface temperature are below 0°C. Isn't the real definition of freezing rain rain that freezes imediately after it hits any surface at all. Isn't it possible for ground temperatures to be above 0°C when freezing rain builds up on aircraft. In addition to that, the article states that freezing rain is supercooled but I think not all freezing is supercooled. Can't it happen that the air temperature and surface temperatures are both below 0°C then the air warms up to above 0°C without thick tree branches having enough time to warm up to avove 0°C then rain avove 0°C hits those tree branches then freezes from those tree branches being below 0°C, with rain that was above 0°C forming glaze ice. I think that type of freezing rain is even more common at night when the sun isn't there to speed up the warming of the surfaces of tree branches. Blackbombchu ( talk) 21:14, 11 January 2014 (UTC)
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They are two different things hail happens in summer while freezing rain is winter timing. DUHHHH 24.187.123.234 ( talk) 21:10, 21 March 2018 (UTC)