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At this point, the term "freerunning" (as opposed to "free running" with a space) should be used throughout this article. I'm not changing it quite yet because there are mixed opinions, so if you disagree, please say so and discuss the issue, otherwise I'll just make the change if no one objects. Here's my reasoning, I think it's solid:
1. The definite source as reasoned by someone above in a 2008 post has changed. The site ( here) now uses "freerunning" instead of "free running". If this was a main argument for "free running", the condition has now changed.
2. The lack of a space is a natural, standard, default progression for any two-word term that creates a unique concept frequently referred to.
3. A space is only when a term like this has not become popular or official. Keeping a space declares freerunning to be an unofficial term not adopted into proper English/French/etc., which at the very least, contradicts the article's nature.
4. Audibly, this is how it's pronounced. Nobody says "free [pause] running". The grammar of the term should reflect the way it's spoken by professionals and practitioners.
5. Athletic youth, with great respect, is one of the last categories of people that sit around and edit dictionaries and encyclopedias. Wikipedia should intelligently promote a proper and natural standard, not wait out the inevitable evolution. Squish7 ( talk) 14:48, 2 November 2011 (UTC)
The article as written is terribly vague on how freerunning is any different from Parkour. I personally don't believe it is, and "freerunning" is merely a personal attitude of a single famous Parkour practitioner, and so having a whole unique Wiki page seems like shameless self-promotion. There is nothing new actually "created" here, and so the page is even inaccurate in that respect. I propose that any mention of freerunning should be incorporated into the main "parkour" wiki-page. In the popular vernacular the two terms are basically synonymous as it is, and even amongst practitioners I have yet to meet or learn of anybody who can actually describe any difference. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 205.206.235.88 ( talk) 18:06, 26 July 2013 (UTC)
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It says Freerunning "is a discipline that was create to be a more inclusive form of parkour" and then it says "freerunning is a type of parkour that includes tricking". These don't sound like the same thing. If we are talking about the same word being applied to two different things, it needs to specify: "freerunning can refer to a discipline created to be a more inclusive form of parkour, or it can refer to a style of parkour including elements of tricking". If they aren't two different things, it shoudl be rephrased, because it's not obvious what is being said to a reader who doens't know much about about any of it...which is exactly the person these articles ought to be written for. 70.109.132.119 ( talk) 02:24, 13 March 2018 (UTC)
There should be a section on differences between those two. To a casual reader, like myself, those two seem like the same thing. Like parkour is freerunnig but with a copyright name to make money of off already existing thing. 213.149.62.88 ( talk) 18:29, 4 November 2018 (UTC)
The introduction currently says that freerunning was invented by Rory Allen, but the history section tells a completely different story. I myself know nothing about it, but it would be great if someone who does could reconcile the differences. 95.90.232.49 ( talk) 09:35, 15 December 2019 (UTC)
Xyxyzyz ( talk) 02:31, 2 June 2020 (UTC)
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At this point, the term "freerunning" (as opposed to "free running" with a space) should be used throughout this article. I'm not changing it quite yet because there are mixed opinions, so if you disagree, please say so and discuss the issue, otherwise I'll just make the change if no one objects. Here's my reasoning, I think it's solid:
1. The definite source as reasoned by someone above in a 2008 post has changed. The site ( here) now uses "freerunning" instead of "free running". If this was a main argument for "free running", the condition has now changed.
2. The lack of a space is a natural, standard, default progression for any two-word term that creates a unique concept frequently referred to.
3. A space is only when a term like this has not become popular or official. Keeping a space declares freerunning to be an unofficial term not adopted into proper English/French/etc., which at the very least, contradicts the article's nature.
4. Audibly, this is how it's pronounced. Nobody says "free [pause] running". The grammar of the term should reflect the way it's spoken by professionals and practitioners.
5. Athletic youth, with great respect, is one of the last categories of people that sit around and edit dictionaries and encyclopedias. Wikipedia should intelligently promote a proper and natural standard, not wait out the inevitable evolution. Squish7 ( talk) 14:48, 2 November 2011 (UTC)
The article as written is terribly vague on how freerunning is any different from Parkour. I personally don't believe it is, and "freerunning" is merely a personal attitude of a single famous Parkour practitioner, and so having a whole unique Wiki page seems like shameless self-promotion. There is nothing new actually "created" here, and so the page is even inaccurate in that respect. I propose that any mention of freerunning should be incorporated into the main "parkour" wiki-page. In the popular vernacular the two terms are basically synonymous as it is, and even amongst practitioners I have yet to meet or learn of anybody who can actually describe any difference. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 205.206.235.88 ( talk) 18:06, 26 July 2013 (UTC)
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It says Freerunning "is a discipline that was create to be a more inclusive form of parkour" and then it says "freerunning is a type of parkour that includes tricking". These don't sound like the same thing. If we are talking about the same word being applied to two different things, it needs to specify: "freerunning can refer to a discipline created to be a more inclusive form of parkour, or it can refer to a style of parkour including elements of tricking". If they aren't two different things, it shoudl be rephrased, because it's not obvious what is being said to a reader who doens't know much about about any of it...which is exactly the person these articles ought to be written for. 70.109.132.119 ( talk) 02:24, 13 March 2018 (UTC)
There should be a section on differences between those two. To a casual reader, like myself, those two seem like the same thing. Like parkour is freerunnig but with a copyright name to make money of off already existing thing. 213.149.62.88 ( talk) 18:29, 4 November 2018 (UTC)
The introduction currently says that freerunning was invented by Rory Allen, but the history section tells a completely different story. I myself know nothing about it, but it would be great if someone who does could reconcile the differences. 95.90.232.49 ( talk) 09:35, 15 December 2019 (UTC)
Xyxyzyz ( talk) 02:31, 2 June 2020 (UTC)
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