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The result of the move request was: moved. ( closed by non-admin page mover) Tol ( talk | contribs) @ 20:01, 17 April 2022 (UTC)
"Freedom of Russia" Legion → Freedom of Russia Legion – I think the quotation marks should be removed. Super Ψ Dro 14:28, 11 April 2022 (UTC)
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The result of the move request was: Not moved. echidnaLives - talk - edits 06:55, 29 November 2022 (UTC)
While some of them were trained by Ukrainian instructors and helped by Ukrainian authorities [1], I did not find any recent sources (preferably some official info by Ukrainian government) saying they belong to Ukrainian Armed Forces and to which part of these forces. They are frequently described merely as "a Ukraine-based Russian militia" [2]. So, perhaps they should be described as such, i.e. as irregular Russian forces supported by the Ukrainian state? My very best wishes ( talk) 20:35, 22 May 2023 (UTC)
This should be noted. 2A02:3030:809:C0BF:1:0:1CFA:FC04 ( talk) 21:50, 22 May 2023 (UTC)
This group is based in Ukraine and so would more correctly be called a Ukrainian paramilitary group. Liger404 ( talk) 07:56, 23 May 2023 (UTC)
Current version defines Tsezar as a commander of the unit. However, most references define him merely as a spokesperson. One of cited refs in the infobox [4] defines him as just a member of the group and a spokesperson. Another ref [5] calls him (probably by mistake) "a self-proclaimed commander", which is not the same as commander, and a media spokesperson for the group. The Ukrainian version of this page provides "secret" for commander in the infobox, Russian version provides nothing. Apparently, if the detachment is a part of Ukrainian International Legion, the commander is appointed by Ukrainians (nothing "self-proclaimed"), and this is not Tzezar. My very best wishes ( talk) 14:06, 31 May 2023 (UTC)
I removed the statement that the group's "estimated size is several hundred to 1,000 soldiers" in this edit; my rationale was: "insufficient sourcing to make this claim in wiki voice"
The source states:
Arestovych is not a reliable source to begin with, while "...could potentially..." does not translate into a reliable estimate. -- K.e.coffman ( talk) 19:33, 2 June 2023 (UTC)
Preserving here by providing this link; my rationale was: "not a reliable source for this claim". Namely, the group's Telegram account is not suitable. -- K.e.coffman ( talk) 03:16, 23 March 2024 (UTC)
Considering many of the militant Russian opposition groups both major and minor like the Russian Volunteer Corps, Russian Insurgent Army and Combat Organization of Anarcho-Communists to name a few all have their political positions specified, why isn't it also included here as well When analysts almost universally consider the Freedom of Russia Legion to be right-wing? That is, if not explicitly far-right, or sometimes even neo-nazi!
While I could see that listing the group "far-right" could be seen as slanderous, especially with the constant "fighting against the facists" line that is said by pro-putin propaganda against pro-Ukraine forces, the group themselves seems to be open about their ideological leanings, in one of their most recent video's on their official channel advertising the legion, ( Ответ для путинской армии на удары по Харькову | Легион "Свобода России"/Response for Putin's army to attacks on Kharkov | Legion "Freedom of Russia") they specifically zoom in on a patch of one of their soilders, depicting the Black Sun A far-right, neo-Nazi symbol, seeing that not only analysts consider them right-wing, but also they are open with expressing far-right views publicly, I don't think it's much of a stretch to at least list their political position as at least Right-Wing to Far-Right. GigaMigaDigaChad ( talk) 0:57, March, 23, 2024 (EST)
I think it would be useful to add the link to the Financial Times article of May 23rd 2023 titled 'Militias used US armoured vehicles in attack over Russian border' and mention it briefly in the main text of the article since it contradicts the claims of Ukrainian forces that they were not involved, although such vehicles were delivered to the Ukrainian forces. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ostirnim ( talk • contribs) 13:52, 31 March 2024 (UTC)
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The result of the move request was: moved. ( closed by non-admin page mover) Tol ( talk | contribs) @ 20:01, 17 April 2022 (UTC)
"Freedom of Russia" Legion → Freedom of Russia Legion – I think the quotation marks should be removed. Super Ψ Dro 14:28, 11 April 2022 (UTC)
I left the following feedback for the creator/future reviewers while reviewing this article: Nice work.
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The result of the move request was: Not moved. echidnaLives - talk - edits 06:55, 29 November 2022 (UTC)
While some of them were trained by Ukrainian instructors and helped by Ukrainian authorities [1], I did not find any recent sources (preferably some official info by Ukrainian government) saying they belong to Ukrainian Armed Forces and to which part of these forces. They are frequently described merely as "a Ukraine-based Russian militia" [2]. So, perhaps they should be described as such, i.e. as irregular Russian forces supported by the Ukrainian state? My very best wishes ( talk) 20:35, 22 May 2023 (UTC)
This should be noted. 2A02:3030:809:C0BF:1:0:1CFA:FC04 ( talk) 21:50, 22 May 2023 (UTC)
This group is based in Ukraine and so would more correctly be called a Ukrainian paramilitary group. Liger404 ( talk) 07:56, 23 May 2023 (UTC)
Current version defines Tsezar as a commander of the unit. However, most references define him merely as a spokesperson. One of cited refs in the infobox [4] defines him as just a member of the group and a spokesperson. Another ref [5] calls him (probably by mistake) "a self-proclaimed commander", which is not the same as commander, and a media spokesperson for the group. The Ukrainian version of this page provides "secret" for commander in the infobox, Russian version provides nothing. Apparently, if the detachment is a part of Ukrainian International Legion, the commander is appointed by Ukrainians (nothing "self-proclaimed"), and this is not Tzezar. My very best wishes ( talk) 14:06, 31 May 2023 (UTC)
I removed the statement that the group's "estimated size is several hundred to 1,000 soldiers" in this edit; my rationale was: "insufficient sourcing to make this claim in wiki voice"
The source states:
Arestovych is not a reliable source to begin with, while "...could potentially..." does not translate into a reliable estimate. -- K.e.coffman ( talk) 19:33, 2 June 2023 (UTC)
Preserving here by providing this link; my rationale was: "not a reliable source for this claim". Namely, the group's Telegram account is not suitable. -- K.e.coffman ( talk) 03:16, 23 March 2024 (UTC)
Considering many of the militant Russian opposition groups both major and minor like the Russian Volunteer Corps, Russian Insurgent Army and Combat Organization of Anarcho-Communists to name a few all have their political positions specified, why isn't it also included here as well When analysts almost universally consider the Freedom of Russia Legion to be right-wing? That is, if not explicitly far-right, or sometimes even neo-nazi!
While I could see that listing the group "far-right" could be seen as slanderous, especially with the constant "fighting against the facists" line that is said by pro-putin propaganda against pro-Ukraine forces, the group themselves seems to be open about their ideological leanings, in one of their most recent video's on their official channel advertising the legion, ( Ответ для путинской армии на удары по Харькову | Легион "Свобода России"/Response for Putin's army to attacks on Kharkov | Legion "Freedom of Russia") they specifically zoom in on a patch of one of their soilders, depicting the Black Sun A far-right, neo-Nazi symbol, seeing that not only analysts consider them right-wing, but also they are open with expressing far-right views publicly, I don't think it's much of a stretch to at least list their political position as at least Right-Wing to Far-Right. GigaMigaDigaChad ( talk) 0:57, March, 23, 2024 (EST)
I think it would be useful to add the link to the Financial Times article of May 23rd 2023 titled 'Militias used US armoured vehicles in attack over Russian border' and mention it briefly in the main text of the article since it contradicts the claims of Ukrainian forces that they were not involved, although such vehicles were delivered to the Ukrainian forces. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ostirnim ( talk • contribs) 13:52, 31 March 2024 (UTC)