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This is the first I have ever heard of this. According to the Braves Media Guide he was born and raised in California. Could someone provide a source on this claim? — Preceding unsigned comment added by V2micca ( talk • contribs) 01:28, 1 July 2013 (UTC)
He is a Canadian citizen by descent. Both of his parents were born and raised in Canada. His mother is from Toronto, while his father is from Windsor. Canadian Nationality Law automatically recognizes the children of Canadian-born citizens to be Canadian citizens automatically at birth--even if they were born outside of Canada. Freeman has also stated that he would like to play for Canada in the World Baseball Classic as a tribute to his mother.
http://www.canadianbaseballnetwork.com/articles/canuck-discovery-freddie-freeman/
http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/citizenship/rules_2009.asp — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.118.13.97 ( talk) 17:57, 18 April 2015 (UTC)
I will continue to add this fact because it's documented as both parents were born in Canada and since that's the case, Canadian nationality law recognizes him as a citizen. In addition, he is now representing Canada internationally for the second time in baseball. Anybody with intelligence can see that the man is obviously a Canadian. Wikipedia is about documenting factual information, which is the case with Freddie Freeman being listed as Canadian, despite what all other people think. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.82.246.2 ( talk) 00:03, 10 February 2023 (UTC)
How do you get rid of the redirect? because the Superhero that has existed for 70 years should be the main Freddy Freeman that Wikipedia should lead too. RyuKlinge ( talk) 09:32, 15 September 2010 (UTC)
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He was born in the U.S. of Canadian parents, but that does not give him Canadian citizenship. He might have it, but there would need to be a reference for the claim. ... discospinster talk 03:47, 24 July 2013 (UTC)
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On the question of whether the subject should be referred to as American and Canadian or just American in the lead, the result of the discussion was no consensus.
A tally suggests the discussion didn't reach a clear consensus. Looking at the arguments put forth does not push us into a rough consensus in either direction. There were a lot of hypotheticals and counter-factuals and comparisons to other facts posed in the discussion. While these provided valuable context and helped introduce some references and claims into the discussion, none were strong enough on their own to outweigh the guidelines referenced.
The strongest argument for "just American" was around
MOS:BIOFIRSTSENTENCE, which suggests using nationality, but does not explicitly suggest using citizenship. To quote the relevant part of the referenced guideline in full Context (location, nationality, etc.) for the activities that made the person notable.
The strongest argument for "American and Canadian" was around
MOS:NATIONALITY, which goes into more detail on how to provide context in the opening paragraph. The most relevant line from this guideline is In cases of public or relevant dual citizenship....
Ultimately, the discussion did not come to a consensus regarding whether the subject's participation in the World Baseball Classic (and the coverage related to it) contributed sufficiently to the subject's notability to require the context of the Canadian citizenship and identity in the lead.
As a final note, there was also a desire among multiple editors to defer to the subject's own declared identity. However given the referenced guidelines and number of participants, this idea would need stronger support to tilt the discussion.
Freeman plays for the Canada team and is Canadian based on his parents birth. Others may diagree of course but find consensus to do so. Thanks! Nemov ( talk) 03:46, 2 November 2023 (UTC)
Should he be referred to as American and Canadian or just American in the lead? See MOS:ETHNICITY for the relevant policy. Note the above conversation. JDDJS ( talk to me • see what I've done) 23:02, 3 November 2023 (UTC)
In cases of public or relevant dual citizenship, or a career that spans a subject's emigration, the use of the word and reduces ambiguity.He considers himself a Canadian and has duel citizenship. We should respect his wishes and this fits within the policy. Thanks! Nemov ( talk) 00:50, 10 November 2023 (UTC)
RS usage, and his own statements of family connection and affinityper Markbassett and
I think we ought to give a large amount of deference to the subject themselves.per NickCT. Pincrete ( talk) 07:28, 27 November 2023 (UTC)
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This is the first I have ever heard of this. According to the Braves Media Guide he was born and raised in California. Could someone provide a source on this claim? — Preceding unsigned comment added by V2micca ( talk • contribs) 01:28, 1 July 2013 (UTC)
He is a Canadian citizen by descent. Both of his parents were born and raised in Canada. His mother is from Toronto, while his father is from Windsor. Canadian Nationality Law automatically recognizes the children of Canadian-born citizens to be Canadian citizens automatically at birth--even if they were born outside of Canada. Freeman has also stated that he would like to play for Canada in the World Baseball Classic as a tribute to his mother.
http://www.canadianbaseballnetwork.com/articles/canuck-discovery-freddie-freeman/
http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/citizenship/rules_2009.asp — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.118.13.97 ( talk) 17:57, 18 April 2015 (UTC)
I will continue to add this fact because it's documented as both parents were born in Canada and since that's the case, Canadian nationality law recognizes him as a citizen. In addition, he is now representing Canada internationally for the second time in baseball. Anybody with intelligence can see that the man is obviously a Canadian. Wikipedia is about documenting factual information, which is the case with Freddie Freeman being listed as Canadian, despite what all other people think. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.82.246.2 ( talk) 00:03, 10 February 2023 (UTC)
How do you get rid of the redirect? because the Superhero that has existed for 70 years should be the main Freddy Freeman that Wikipedia should lead too. RyuKlinge ( talk) 09:32, 15 September 2010 (UTC)
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He was born in the U.S. of Canadian parents, but that does not give him Canadian citizenship. He might have it, but there would need to be a reference for the claim. ... discospinster talk 03:47, 24 July 2013 (UTC)
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On the question of whether the subject should be referred to as American and Canadian or just American in the lead, the result of the discussion was no consensus.
A tally suggests the discussion didn't reach a clear consensus. Looking at the arguments put forth does not push us into a rough consensus in either direction. There were a lot of hypotheticals and counter-factuals and comparisons to other facts posed in the discussion. While these provided valuable context and helped introduce some references and claims into the discussion, none were strong enough on their own to outweigh the guidelines referenced.
The strongest argument for "just American" was around
MOS:BIOFIRSTSENTENCE, which suggests using nationality, but does not explicitly suggest using citizenship. To quote the relevant part of the referenced guideline in full Context (location, nationality, etc.) for the activities that made the person notable.
The strongest argument for "American and Canadian" was around
MOS:NATIONALITY, which goes into more detail on how to provide context in the opening paragraph. The most relevant line from this guideline is In cases of public or relevant dual citizenship....
Ultimately, the discussion did not come to a consensus regarding whether the subject's participation in the World Baseball Classic (and the coverage related to it) contributed sufficiently to the subject's notability to require the context of the Canadian citizenship and identity in the lead.
As a final note, there was also a desire among multiple editors to defer to the subject's own declared identity. However given the referenced guidelines and number of participants, this idea would need stronger support to tilt the discussion.
Freeman plays for the Canada team and is Canadian based on his parents birth. Others may diagree of course but find consensus to do so. Thanks! Nemov ( talk) 03:46, 2 November 2023 (UTC)
Should he be referred to as American and Canadian or just American in the lead? See MOS:ETHNICITY for the relevant policy. Note the above conversation. JDDJS ( talk to me • see what I've done) 23:02, 3 November 2023 (UTC)
In cases of public or relevant dual citizenship, or a career that spans a subject's emigration, the use of the word and reduces ambiguity.He considers himself a Canadian and has duel citizenship. We should respect his wishes and this fits within the policy. Thanks! Nemov ( talk) 00:50, 10 November 2023 (UTC)
RS usage, and his own statements of family connection and affinityper Markbassett and
I think we ought to give a large amount of deference to the subject themselves.per NickCT. Pincrete ( talk) 07:28, 27 November 2023 (UTC)