This article must adhere to the biographies of living persons (BLP) policy, even if it is not a biography, because it contains material about living persons. Contentious material about living persons that is unsourced or poorly sourced must be removed immediately from the article and its talk page, especially if potentially libellous. If such material is repeatedly inserted, or if you have other concerns, please report the issue to this noticeboard.If you are a subject of this article, or acting on behalf of one, and you need help, please see this help page. |
![]() | This ![]() It is of interest to the following WikiProjects: | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
|
i said and it was deleted something; franklin makes 1.4 million from two sources of income alone (just the minimun he HAS to make public because of law. why was this deleted? Peppermintschnapps ( talk) 21:12, 17 May 2010 (UTC)
Saw him speak in my hometown once. They showed a picture of him back when he was a rebellious punk with a duckbutt hairdo and a blue sports car. The he came out to threaten the unconverted with damnation and I've never looked back. Cthulhu fhtagn!
Arkhamite
16:45, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
The allegations made in the criticism section of this article that Franklin is somehow responsible for the Darfur genocide are speculative at best, libelous at worst, and absurd to anyone wishing Wikipedia to contain facts. Historical causes are an extremely complicated matter, containing the intermingling of many different factors and human wills, and as no sources are cited for the criticism, and as it could simply be original "research" I will remove it if none are given. Jakestonet 22:08, 19 September 2007 (UTC)jakestonet
This is really a franchise, isn't it?
It says in 1974, at the age of 22, in a hotel room, that Franklin Graham "became a Christian." I don't understand. I assume he was born a Christian (a Southern Baptist, in particular), as his father was a top Christian minister to Presidents before Franklin was born. Anyone know what's going on here? Was he adult-baptized in a hotel room? Did he have a born-again experience?-- 173.161.113.17 ( talk) 07:27, 10 March 2013 (UTC)
That strikes me as rather ambiguous too. Presumably, he wasn't a Buddhist or even a secular humanist previously. Probably, all that is meant is that he wasn't born again until that time. But the language here is unclear. JimFarm ( talk) 21:59, 29 December 2013 (UTC)
This is indeed confusing and rather misleading - even for those of us within the Christian tradition and certainly for readers of the article outside the Christian tradition. I've altered the wording of this sentence to reflect that. This new formulation is entirely reasonable: Graham was born to and raised by the most prominent Christian evangelist in the world and went on to attend Christian schools. Whatever the nature of the "conversion experience" he claims to have had in 1974 when he was 22 years old, it cannot be accurately described (as was the case in the old version of the article) by saying that at that point he "became a Christian". The self-contradictory nature of these statements is clear to those both familiar and unfamiliar with this (my) religious tradition; my rewording of the sentence makes this explicit. 95.113.98.204 ( talk) 12:44, 14 June 2015 (UTC)
It certainly is notable that Graham has touted the IRS scandal of tea party type groups under the Obama regime. Numerous media appearances and references may be cited. I would like this section to be in the article. Wikipietime ( talk) 13:36, 15 June 2013 (UTC)
Is there any formal basis, like an institutional accreditation, for the "Reverend" title that this article awards to Franklin Graham? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 23.119.205.88 ( talk) 15:44, 7 May 2015 (UTC)
My clarification to the article on Franklin Graham is entirely reasonable. He was born to and raised by the most prominent Christian evangelist in the world and went on to attend Christian schools. Whatever the nature of the "conversion experience" he claims to have had in 1974 when he was 22 years old, it cannot be accurately described (as was the case in the article) by saying that at that point he "became a Christian". The self-contradictory nature of these statements should be clear even to those outside our religious tradition; my rewording of the sentence makes this clear. 95.113.98.204 ( talk) 12:35, 14 June 2015 (UTC)
Hello fellow Wikipedians,
I have just added archive links to one external link on
Franklin Graham. Please take a moment to review
my edit. If necessary, add {{
cbignore}}
after the link to keep me from modifying it. Alternatively, you can add {{
nobots|deny=InternetArchiveBot}}
to keep me off the page altogether. I made the following changes:
When you have finished reviewing my changes, please set the checked parameter below to true to let others know.
This message was posted before February 2018.
After February 2018, "External links modified" talk page sections are no longer generated or monitored by InternetArchiveBot. No special action is required regarding these talk page notices, other than
regular verification using the archive tool instructions below. Editors
have permission to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the
RfC before doing mass systematic removals. This message is updated dynamically through the template {{
source check}}
(last update: 5 June 2024).
Cheers. — cyberbot II Talk to my owner:Online 00:50, 18 October 2015 (UTC)
Quote: "In the August 30, 2010 issue of the Time magazine, "Does America Hate Islam?" Graham reportedly [sic] said that Islam..."
How about an actual citation instead of a second-hand source here? How is anyone supposed to check the accuracy and context of this alleged quotation?
NicholasNotabene ( talk) 04:56, 20 January 2016 (UTC)
Hello fellow Wikipedians,
I have just modified 2 external links on Franklin Graham. Please take a moment to review my edit. If you have any questions, or need the bot to ignore the links, or the page altogether, please visit this simple FaQ for additional information. I made the following changes:
When you have finished reviewing my changes, you may follow the instructions on the template below to fix any issues with the URLs.
This message was posted before February 2018.
After February 2018, "External links modified" talk page sections are no longer generated or monitored by InternetArchiveBot. No special action is required regarding these talk page notices, other than
regular verification using the archive tool instructions below. Editors
have permission to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the
RfC before doing mass systematic removals. This message is updated dynamically through the template {{
source check}}
(last update: 5 June 2024).
Cheers.— InternetArchiveBot ( Report bug) 15:27, 6 October 2017 (UTC)
Hello fellow Wikipedians,
I have just modified 5 external links on Franklin Graham. Please take a moment to review my edit. If you have any questions, or need the bot to ignore the links, or the page altogether, please visit this simple FaQ for additional information. I made the following changes:
{{
dead link}}
tag to
http://www.billygraham.org/biographies_show.asp?p=2&d=2%2FWhen you have finished reviewing my changes, you may follow the instructions on the template below to fix any issues with the URLs.
This message was posted before February 2018.
After February 2018, "External links modified" talk page sections are no longer generated or monitored by InternetArchiveBot. No special action is required regarding these talk page notices, other than
regular verification using the archive tool instructions below. Editors
have permission to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the
RfC before doing mass systematic removals. This message is updated dynamically through the template {{
source check}}
(last update: 5 June 2024).
Cheers.— InternetArchiveBot ( Report bug) 17:48, 9 December 2017 (UTC)
To whom it may concern we on behalf of Raising Future Social Support Initiatives Charity Organisation we are based in Uganda and we look forward to help the needy homeless and the street kids old men and women please we are seeking for your help to donate to us anything like old shoes,clothes,blankets,shelter,bore wholes, education equipment academy old staffs like balls jersey and many more for the kids and old men and women to help the needy homeless and the street kids. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tonnah ( talk • contribs) 05:00, 11 October 2018 (UTC)
There have been a lot of edits in the last few days adding material regarding Graham's political activism. I think the result has been an imbalanced article. Since Graham is still most notable as an evangelist, that should cover the bulk of the article. Perhaps the solution is to expand that section. St Anselm ( talk) 03:35, 28 April 2019 (UTC)
Evangelical Christianity in the era of Donald Trump is indistinguishable from a political movement allied with Donald Trump. 45.47.32.30 ( talk) 19:30, 19 May 2019 (UTC)
I’ve found that the majority of content on Graham’s political viewpoints tab only include negative response to his comments. Ought it be better to include positive feedback from some of his quotes? (It must exist, and am willing to search myself). I find that would be a more balanced approach when wanting to describe his comments. Biaskiller45 ( talk) 06:02, 22 January 2021 (UTC)
I put Franklin Graham#COVID vaccination into a separate section because my source didn't mention controversy. Someone else put it into Franklin Graham#Controversies. Should it be there? Proxima Centauri ( talk) 14:38, 25 March 2021 (UTC)
My first wource said there was controversy but that source was considered unacceptable. My second source didn't include controversy. Thanks for reverting. Proxima Centauri ( talk) 17:06, 25 March 2021 (UTC)
I'm not sure what the relevance of his heart condition is in the COVID section. The cited source doesn't try to make any connection between the heat condition and the vaccine and absolutely seems like it's inclusion here is just an anti-vaxxer trying to spread fear. 174.53.136.140 ( talk) 19:39, 5 March 2022 (UTC)
This article must adhere to the biographies of living persons (BLP) policy, even if it is not a biography, because it contains material about living persons. Contentious material about living persons that is unsourced or poorly sourced must be removed immediately from the article and its talk page, especially if potentially libellous. If such material is repeatedly inserted, or if you have other concerns, please report the issue to this noticeboard.If you are a subject of this article, or acting on behalf of one, and you need help, please see this help page. |
![]() | This ![]() It is of interest to the following WikiProjects: | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
|
i said and it was deleted something; franklin makes 1.4 million from two sources of income alone (just the minimun he HAS to make public because of law. why was this deleted? Peppermintschnapps ( talk) 21:12, 17 May 2010 (UTC)
Saw him speak in my hometown once. They showed a picture of him back when he was a rebellious punk with a duckbutt hairdo and a blue sports car. The he came out to threaten the unconverted with damnation and I've never looked back. Cthulhu fhtagn!
Arkhamite
16:45, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
The allegations made in the criticism section of this article that Franklin is somehow responsible for the Darfur genocide are speculative at best, libelous at worst, and absurd to anyone wishing Wikipedia to contain facts. Historical causes are an extremely complicated matter, containing the intermingling of many different factors and human wills, and as no sources are cited for the criticism, and as it could simply be original "research" I will remove it if none are given. Jakestonet 22:08, 19 September 2007 (UTC)jakestonet
This is really a franchise, isn't it?
It says in 1974, at the age of 22, in a hotel room, that Franklin Graham "became a Christian." I don't understand. I assume he was born a Christian (a Southern Baptist, in particular), as his father was a top Christian minister to Presidents before Franklin was born. Anyone know what's going on here? Was he adult-baptized in a hotel room? Did he have a born-again experience?-- 173.161.113.17 ( talk) 07:27, 10 March 2013 (UTC)
That strikes me as rather ambiguous too. Presumably, he wasn't a Buddhist or even a secular humanist previously. Probably, all that is meant is that he wasn't born again until that time. But the language here is unclear. JimFarm ( talk) 21:59, 29 December 2013 (UTC)
This is indeed confusing and rather misleading - even for those of us within the Christian tradition and certainly for readers of the article outside the Christian tradition. I've altered the wording of this sentence to reflect that. This new formulation is entirely reasonable: Graham was born to and raised by the most prominent Christian evangelist in the world and went on to attend Christian schools. Whatever the nature of the "conversion experience" he claims to have had in 1974 when he was 22 years old, it cannot be accurately described (as was the case in the old version of the article) by saying that at that point he "became a Christian". The self-contradictory nature of these statements is clear to those both familiar and unfamiliar with this (my) religious tradition; my rewording of the sentence makes this explicit. 95.113.98.204 ( talk) 12:44, 14 June 2015 (UTC)
It certainly is notable that Graham has touted the IRS scandal of tea party type groups under the Obama regime. Numerous media appearances and references may be cited. I would like this section to be in the article. Wikipietime ( talk) 13:36, 15 June 2013 (UTC)
Is there any formal basis, like an institutional accreditation, for the "Reverend" title that this article awards to Franklin Graham? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 23.119.205.88 ( talk) 15:44, 7 May 2015 (UTC)
My clarification to the article on Franklin Graham is entirely reasonable. He was born to and raised by the most prominent Christian evangelist in the world and went on to attend Christian schools. Whatever the nature of the "conversion experience" he claims to have had in 1974 when he was 22 years old, it cannot be accurately described (as was the case in the article) by saying that at that point he "became a Christian". The self-contradictory nature of these statements should be clear even to those outside our religious tradition; my rewording of the sentence makes this clear. 95.113.98.204 ( talk) 12:35, 14 June 2015 (UTC)
Hello fellow Wikipedians,
I have just added archive links to one external link on
Franklin Graham. Please take a moment to review
my edit. If necessary, add {{
cbignore}}
after the link to keep me from modifying it. Alternatively, you can add {{
nobots|deny=InternetArchiveBot}}
to keep me off the page altogether. I made the following changes:
When you have finished reviewing my changes, please set the checked parameter below to true to let others know.
This message was posted before February 2018.
After February 2018, "External links modified" talk page sections are no longer generated or monitored by InternetArchiveBot. No special action is required regarding these talk page notices, other than
regular verification using the archive tool instructions below. Editors
have permission to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the
RfC before doing mass systematic removals. This message is updated dynamically through the template {{
source check}}
(last update: 5 June 2024).
Cheers. — cyberbot II Talk to my owner:Online 00:50, 18 October 2015 (UTC)
Quote: "In the August 30, 2010 issue of the Time magazine, "Does America Hate Islam?" Graham reportedly [sic] said that Islam..."
How about an actual citation instead of a second-hand source here? How is anyone supposed to check the accuracy and context of this alleged quotation?
NicholasNotabene ( talk) 04:56, 20 January 2016 (UTC)
Hello fellow Wikipedians,
I have just modified 2 external links on Franklin Graham. Please take a moment to review my edit. If you have any questions, or need the bot to ignore the links, or the page altogether, please visit this simple FaQ for additional information. I made the following changes:
When you have finished reviewing my changes, you may follow the instructions on the template below to fix any issues with the URLs.
This message was posted before February 2018.
After February 2018, "External links modified" talk page sections are no longer generated or monitored by InternetArchiveBot. No special action is required regarding these talk page notices, other than
regular verification using the archive tool instructions below. Editors
have permission to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the
RfC before doing mass systematic removals. This message is updated dynamically through the template {{
source check}}
(last update: 5 June 2024).
Cheers.— InternetArchiveBot ( Report bug) 15:27, 6 October 2017 (UTC)
Hello fellow Wikipedians,
I have just modified 5 external links on Franklin Graham. Please take a moment to review my edit. If you have any questions, or need the bot to ignore the links, or the page altogether, please visit this simple FaQ for additional information. I made the following changes:
{{
dead link}}
tag to
http://www.billygraham.org/biographies_show.asp?p=2&d=2%2FWhen you have finished reviewing my changes, you may follow the instructions on the template below to fix any issues with the URLs.
This message was posted before February 2018.
After February 2018, "External links modified" talk page sections are no longer generated or monitored by InternetArchiveBot. No special action is required regarding these talk page notices, other than
regular verification using the archive tool instructions below. Editors
have permission to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the
RfC before doing mass systematic removals. This message is updated dynamically through the template {{
source check}}
(last update: 5 June 2024).
Cheers.— InternetArchiveBot ( Report bug) 17:48, 9 December 2017 (UTC)
To whom it may concern we on behalf of Raising Future Social Support Initiatives Charity Organisation we are based in Uganda and we look forward to help the needy homeless and the street kids old men and women please we are seeking for your help to donate to us anything like old shoes,clothes,blankets,shelter,bore wholes, education equipment academy old staffs like balls jersey and many more for the kids and old men and women to help the needy homeless and the street kids. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tonnah ( talk • contribs) 05:00, 11 October 2018 (UTC)
There have been a lot of edits in the last few days adding material regarding Graham's political activism. I think the result has been an imbalanced article. Since Graham is still most notable as an evangelist, that should cover the bulk of the article. Perhaps the solution is to expand that section. St Anselm ( talk) 03:35, 28 April 2019 (UTC)
Evangelical Christianity in the era of Donald Trump is indistinguishable from a political movement allied with Donald Trump. 45.47.32.30 ( talk) 19:30, 19 May 2019 (UTC)
I’ve found that the majority of content on Graham’s political viewpoints tab only include negative response to his comments. Ought it be better to include positive feedback from some of his quotes? (It must exist, and am willing to search myself). I find that would be a more balanced approach when wanting to describe his comments. Biaskiller45 ( talk) 06:02, 22 January 2021 (UTC)
I put Franklin Graham#COVID vaccination into a separate section because my source didn't mention controversy. Someone else put it into Franklin Graham#Controversies. Should it be there? Proxima Centauri ( talk) 14:38, 25 March 2021 (UTC)
My first wource said there was controversy but that source was considered unacceptable. My second source didn't include controversy. Thanks for reverting. Proxima Centauri ( talk) 17:06, 25 March 2021 (UTC)
I'm not sure what the relevance of his heart condition is in the COVID section. The cited source doesn't try to make any connection between the heat condition and the vaccine and absolutely seems like it's inclusion here is just an anti-vaxxer trying to spread fear. 174.53.136.140 ( talk) 19:39, 5 March 2022 (UTC)